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n2doc

(47,953 posts) Mon Sep 16, 2013, 10:27 AM Sep 2013

Another man dies while in custody of Kern County deputies

BAKERSFIELD, Calif. (KBAK/KBFX) - The family of a man who died after a confrontation with Kern County deputies is looking for answers.

"We're thinking, 'What happened?'" said Joe Gomez, son-in-law to Ronnie Ledesma Jr.

The family produced photographs of Ledesma at Kern Medical Center after an incident on Aug. 19. According to a press release by the Kern County Sheriff's Office, deputies responded to the Walgreens store at 2629 Mt. Vernon Ave. at about 8:35 p.m. regarding suspicious persons. Two males were inside the store acting strangely, and both were possibly under the influence of a controlled substance.

The first deputy to arrive on scene contacted Ledesma, who was displaying symptoms of being under the influence, said the press release. Officials said Ledesma became uncooperative when the deputy attempted to detain him. Ledesma resisted arrest and fought with the deputy for approximately two minutes before additional deputies arrived, including a K-9 unit.

The dog bit Ledesma, and deputies used "impact weapons" and control holds to subdue Ledesma. Officials did not say what "impact weapons" were used.

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Another man dies while in custody of Kern County deputies (Original Post) n2doc Sep 2013 OP

Anyone know what impact weapons are? Thanks. nt Mnemosyne Sep 2013 #1

Wild guess: Blunt-trauma weapons like rubber-bullets and clubs. DetlefK Sep 2013 #2

Thanks DetlefK. I wonder if tasers are included in the list? nt Mnemosyne Sep 2013 #3

They hit him with sticks. Iggo Sep 2013 #4

I was actually wondering if they tasered him to death. I understand sticks, thanks. nt Mnemosyne Sep 2013 #5

Actually, that was just a guess based on my jaded view of how they fill out reports. Iggo Sep 2013 #7

I hear ya', Iggo. A rose by any other name... nt Mnemosyne Sep 2013 #9

Translation: The cops beat the guy to death. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #6

It's no problem at all. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2013 #8

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)

1. Anyone know what impact weapons are? Thanks. nt

Reply to n2doc (Original post)

Mon Sep 16, 2013, 11:03 AM

Sep 2013

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)

2. Wild guess: Blunt-trauma weapons like rubber-bullets and clubs.

Reply to Mnemosyne (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 16, 2013, 11:34 AM

Sep 2013

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)

3. Thanks DetlefK. I wonder if tasers are included in the list? nt

Reply to DetlefK (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 16, 2013, 11:40 AM

Sep 2013

Iggo

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4. They hit him with sticks.

Reply to Mnemosyne (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 16, 2013, 12:01 PM

Sep 2013

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)

5. I was actually wondering if they tasered him to death. I understand sticks, thanks. nt

Reply to Iggo (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 16, 2013, 02:26 PM

Sep 2013

Iggo

(47,561 posts)

7. Actually, that was just a guess based on my jaded view of how they fill out reports.

Reply to Mnemosyne (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 16, 2013, 03:25 PM

Sep 2013

I was thinking back to the Branch Davidian fiasco, and the ATF's tear gas canisters which employed "rapidly expanding gases." Oh sure, you could call them explosive devices, but then people might think they used explosive devices.