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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFrost advisory tonight - a full month ahead from out normal frost date!
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Lake Ontario shore into the Adirondacks -
Looks like this is going to be a bad, bad winter!
Everyone here is complaining that their vegetable gardens did poorly this summer. Last week it was in the 90's!
It's now called Global Climate Change!
gopiscrap
(23,762 posts)el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)radio will argue that this proves Global Warming is a hoax.
Bryant
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)If I hold my hand out the door, and it does not get wet, it's not raining anywhere.
If I hold my hand out the door, and it gets cold, it's cold everywhere.
They refuse to see the correlation between global warming and changing/shifting weather patterns.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)1. I live in the Lake Ontario Snow belt
2. Not only that, but I live exactly where the rise in elevation maximizes snow fall.
3. not only that, but we has deluges of rain this summer that put ruts in the driveway for the first time ever - and I've lived here over 25 years!
William769
(55,147 posts)I'm still waiting for the first day it doesn't break 100 degrees! Came close yesterday, so there is hope.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)I think the early frost is an anomaly. It may also be a sign that winter temps will be moderating - earlier frost, but a winter that hangs in the high 20's, low 30's - perfect conditions for maximum snow fall!
Roland99
(53,342 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)That is the usual heat index most of the year. I lived in South Florida most of my life until I was sick of the heat and humidity and moved here to North Georgia.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Moved here from KY about 4 1/2yrs ago. Tired of 4-5 months of grey and brown and cold!
NickB79
(19,257 posts)Don't fall into the same mindset the Freepers use.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)We had a generally cool summer compared to normal with much more rain than usual -
the few weeks of high temperature were weather, the overall cool temps are climate, IMO.
I think the cool temps here are due to overall global warming =- high temps elsewhere change the flow of the jet stream.
NickB79
(19,257 posts)It's very, very hard to pinpoint individual events on climate change; climatologists are very hesitant to do so without extremely high confidence because then you'll have idiots spouting off about "global cooling" every time we get a blizzard.
That's why climate science generally sticks to forecasts that span years, decades, centuries, etc.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)is a trend winter after winter, summer after summer, toward cooler summers, warmer winters - headed as i said to the traditional climate found in Ireland. (I say traditional because Ireland's climate is changing, too!) An early frost fits in because of the cooler summer. We may get temps in the 30's in October/November which will bring on the snow early. A seemingly mild winter with temps in the low 30's high/20's will mean a ton of snow for us due to our location near Lake Ontario. Take note also that I mentioned several deluges; unusually heavy rainfall not once, but many times over the summer.
didact
(246 posts)eom
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Just before we got these storms from Hell putting so much of my state underwater, we had a September heat wave kicking temperatures into the 95+ range.
Our weather is completely haywire. I'll call it climate change.
msongs
(67,430 posts)hedgehog
(36,286 posts)only that most years October 15 has been a good marker. One year we never did get an actual frost until December - when it started snowing! The grass never froz that year because the snow cover kept it warm.
I'd say the earliest frost I recall was about a week early - call it October 8. That's based on 25 years of gardening in the same spot. Our safe last frost date is May 15, but that's been creeping back to May 1.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)10. The summer has been cooler than what I remember, IMO. Crop blight has been more prevalent.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)This past week has been hotter than our summer!
Our summer temps were at least 10 degrees average below normal, it rained almost every day.
Now we are in a "normal" dry fall, but in the low 90's.
If we ARE going to get a cooler winter, I can risk planting fall greens.