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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am amazed at what I am feeling this morning.
Now that a couple more genuine wins have come our way. Now that big, flashing, honking moves back from failed policies of the neo-cons and their cousins the New Dems has occurred, I have a feeling of relief and release going deep within me. Tension that I was so used to feeling during 30 years of disaster and betrayal that I didn't even know it was there anymore.
Today, the big American majority that agrees with us on policy (as long as just a couple demonized words aren't used) has actually been listened to in Washington! Not attacking Syria and the sidelining of Summers are political acts of war against the defacto American oligarchy. It was clear that it was going to be business as usual on these fronts until just a couple of weeks ago. I eagerly await the histories of the past couple of weeks that we will read in the future.
My sense right now is that the President himself is the force behind this tectonic shift by simply listening to new voices.
What's next? Maybe the Disruption Swarm here at DU will be switched off?
I can dream.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)On to the Debt Ceiling for a trifecta. I noticed that he seemed to make more resolute statements and intentions as to what he would and wouldn't to with the Shut Down Weasels after the American People had stated their opinions.
Also important to note that the time is ripe...note that the RWers, especially the Tea Party, are in disarray.
FredStembottom
(2,928 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 16, 2013, 02:33 PM - Edit history (1)
.... I first felt like something was going wrong back in the Carter administration. The way his fellow Democrats in the Senate seemed to act like his election was the crossing of some line that needed to be resisted.
So, more than 30 for me, too.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)As far as I know he is still 100% behind the disastrous TPP. And he still wanted Larry Summers. Socially, pretty liberal. Economically - well he can talk a good game but when it comes down to it he's going to protect the fat cats on Wall Street.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)to try to do the right thing. And I think that in many areas he has accomplished a lot more than he has been given credit for and inspite of the bunch of idiots that sit on the Hill and throw tantrums. There are more hard won legislative victories besides the two listed.
but verify
and never stop working for it.
Keep those cards and letters going.
IronLionZion
(45,472 posts)through positive reinforcement.
Lets elect Dem majority in congress and bring about even more positive changes.
FredStembottom
(2,928 posts)Or more Dems of a post-tragic-dabbling-with-conservatism type.
IronLionZion
(45,472 posts)we would like to have as many liberal Dems as possible, but I would also like to have as many Dems as possible of any type. Voting for the D puts longtime liberals in leadership positions because of seniority. I wouldn't punish a moderate from a conservative area, especially after seeing the damage done by tea party wingnuts who don't care about consequences.
FredStembottom
(2,928 posts)I always vote a straight DEM ticket for the very reasons you state.
Because, what's moderate once the wind starts blowing the other way?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I often hear that the disruptor's here at du are the ones going against the President on many of his policies.
"My sense right now is that the President himself is the force behind this tectonic shift by simply listening to new voices."
The voices are coming from those many consider disruptor's. These are people who are voicing stronger and stronger opinions because they feel they have not been listened to. That is why I agree with you that they are "new" voices he seems to be listening to. I hope many of those considered by some to be the "disruption swarm" start to up their game as they now realize the President is willing to listen. Of course that is if I am reading your "disruption swarm" framing correctly. Pretty sure I am.
Understand what I have just said only addresses two sentences of your op. I love the first part of your op and it deserves a big k and r.
FredStembottom
(2,928 posts)I meant the opposite: the 24/7 spammers that use pure nastiness on all of us who don't like this particular President enough.
I believe it to be organized nastiness and I hope the word will go out that we aren't the enemy. We never were. I hope they aim all that effort at Tea Partiers instead.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Even though I could not have been more wrong, it would seem we agree about the whole premise. Very cool.
FredStembottom
(2,928 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)have I got this gameplan right?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Not sure if you posted to the right person.
Skraxx
(2,979 posts)Don't your realize that he's only responsible for bad things! Anything good that happens as a result of his decisions was luck! Or because he was forced by the powerful internet "Lefties" to do it against his will!
FredStembottom
(2,928 posts)As always from me.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)because disagreeing with the OP is authoritarian, so do as they say and go away and be quiet.
Oh wait...
FredStembottom
(2,928 posts)No one should spam threads 24/7 with name-calling, hysterics and juvenile behavior.
That's all.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)juvenile.
Right. Your OP is everything you are supposedly railing against.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Who is the someone?
FredStembottom
(2,928 posts)It's even handed. Gives Obama credit and has to do overall with good feelings.
The Disruption Swarm is meant as an accurate as possible name for what I suspect (but will never know for certain) is an organized effort to spam DU with nastiness and irrelevance.
Vanje
(9,766 posts)Obama realize good result???
Get's your bad will!
Some responsible Incompetent was against Credit???
Anything against the internet was luck!
Lucky "Lefties" that he's forced by Cop-orate decisions that only happens because he What???
Don't!!! or things for that powerful Stooge
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)Other Goals:
An amendment to the US Constitution eliminating corporate personhood and the precedent that "money equals free speech."
Taking the Chained CPI off the table for the 'Grand Bargain.'
FredStembottom
(2,928 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)mick063
(2,424 posts)Negotiating for opening up foreign held money shelters (ie. Cayman Islands) to federal monitoring for the purpose of taxation.
Instructing Dept. of Justice to rethink marijuana policy.
Listening to public sentiment with respect to Syria and Summers.
In every case, I truly do not believe he would have taken such actions if people were not raising hell. I'll give him credit for listening and acting. I do not give him credit for being the initiator of these actions or inactions. In the case of Summers, it took a few Senators to relay the message that a fight was in store. In the case of Syria, it took a lot of public outcry.
Listening and acting is a good start. Initiating desirable action without public prodding would be better.
FredStembottom
(2,928 posts)The President has done a clear turn toward new thinking.
Being the Prez, just allowing new people in the door to talk is ridiculously powerful and merely what I have wanted since he was elected.
Close the door on the Summers'. Open it to the Warrens and Yellins'.