think that was necessary, since the mayor is giving news we already know--name of the shooter.

The media I think is more interested in keeping the hysteria high and the discourse low.

they LOVE this sort of thing , it fills air time and pages , which is the name of the game .

No one needs a gun , period !!!

Thank you for posting the thread. She gave a very powerful plea for this to stop.

... sad.

When someone gets shot but survives the gang wars they post very well armed police at the doors to prevent other gangster-assassins from finishing the job.

ensuing right-wing soused society where guns won out in the battle against butter.

She was quite restrained... I guess she had to be, but i was surely filling in the pauses.

I think she has a lot of important things to say.

for us to starting thinking and talking about what we can do to stop this madness? If not them, some of the other right wing nut jobs will do it for them. They have their lackeys well trained.

The doctor, by the way, impressed me, too, with her plea for this to stop. As someone who has to deal with this regularly, she knows only too well the horror of what is going on in our country day after day. Maybe not on the scale that happened there today, but it's a slow steady parade of people we are losing to this insanity. And this is insanity by definition: When you do the same thing over and over and expect a different outcome, what do you have? Insanity.

because they want to keep their cushy jobs

between us and Obama's new world order is are guns!

U.S. civilians are a cash cow for the small arms industry.With 90 guns per 100 citizens, and 270 million of the world's 875 million known firearms being here in the good old USA, it's pretty easy to follow the money from the CEOs of Alliant Techsystems, Sturm & Rutger, or Smith & Wesson directly from their wallets to the always-open pockets of our fine, upstanding representatives...

Brilliant marketing coupled with a brain-dead consumer-base that will mortgage the house to buy a few more cases of ammunition at the mere hint of legislation, and you've got a handful of CEO's laughing their asses off.

I think the main difference between the United States and Australia is that the United States has a Second Amendment that states that everyone has "the right to bare arms". Yes, I realize there is also the "well regulated militia" part. However, I think just having an amendment that says "right to bare arms" makes it harder to put forward and pass the type of legislation that passed in Australia.

she went on to say that she wanted her trauma center put out of business by eliminating these types of events.

There is no doubt what her msg. is....... get some common sense gun laws.......

The concealed carry movement happened after some asshole drove a truck through the front window of a restaurant in Texas then went in and started shooting up the place. Four years later, in 1995, Texas passed the first concealed carry law because one of the people who was there had left her gun in the car. If she would have had it, the story went, she could have killed him before he killed so many.

Reality: if she had a gun he would have killed her and moved on.

"Huxley, this isn't the Wild West. The Wild West wasn't even the Wild West!"

I don't have statistics here, but I think you'll find most of the mass shootings in the U.S. that weren't Prohibition-related (and the government responded to those by passing comprehensive gun control legislation, in 1934) happened after 1995.

Maybe she means mass shootings, but I read that DC is still very high in gun death rankings. Maybe in the top 10.

Everywhere across this country death by gun happens every day multiple times.

"I think she means the massive amount of gun shootings has to stop...."

I think anyone without a sacred cow to protect thinks the same as do you and I.

Published to FR etc no later than 8pm tonight, I'm sure.

but it wasn't and it doesn't have to be.

If Sandy Hook didn't wake them up, NOTHING will. I think there is no atrocity too horrific for the gun freaks, they will rationalize ANYTHING. Just wait - soon there will be the usual nonsense about "oh if only everyone in the Navy Yard had been armed, it coukld have been prevented".

Sandy Hook illustrated to me that far too many people are wed to the implication that "27 dead schoolchildren are simply a part of the price we have to pay to stay well-armed..."

in the Navy yard? I thought the first reports said armed personnel responded first.

And it seems we are bearing the consequences.

a charity for 10 years that helped Domestic violence victims, (women and children),and

sexual assault victims get away from their abusers.. The truth is the

phone never stopped ringing, and America is becoming more violent

every minute. I think we have not seen the last tragedy like this..The

time between these shootings is getting shorter and shorter. Unfortunately

I live in the south.. Guns rule, as do Republicans for these rednecks..

Where do you live now where it's safe? I'm over it...

and she's absolutely right - something must be done. Even though she's very experienced in traumatic injuries and gunshot wounds, she appeared to be quite shaken and overcome.

K&R

and it is EXACTLY how they want it.

This IS America. We have to admit it, especially of we want to fix it. We are a pro-gun culture. We do glorify violence, we do turn our backs on each other, we do have screwed-up priorities. We have no sense of a national community. We feel despised by our fellow citizens. We marinate in that resentment and we celebrate fear and loathing. Yes we do. We actually enjoy hating each other. We set the bar so low for our whole society, we have no real expectation of a better future. We don't trust, we don't embrace, and we don't care about huge swaths of this country. I am as guilty of this as anybody and I'm not proud of it. But that is where we are at and the proof is right there in this guy and how he ended up like this.

She. And she may be wrong now but if we don't believe we can do something we never will.