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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRemember the "Christian" couple that got lost and stranded in their boat?
The ones so far to the right they fell off their chairs?
Well, they are going to try again...
Conservative Christian Voyagers Who Were Lost In The Pacific Plan To Leave Again, Fear Immigration Reform
Submitted by Brian Tashman on Monday, 9/16/2013 3:25 pm
An Arizona family that fled the US by boat only to be lost at sea is planning to leave again, once again by boat. Back in August, the Gastonguay family cited abortion, homosexuality [and] the state-controlled church as reasons for leaving the US to the island nation of Kiribati. However, the voyage did not go as planned as damage to their boat left them adrift for weeks. They were eventually picked up by a Venezuelan fishing vessel, transferred to a Japanese cargo ship and taken to Chile, the Associated Press reported. Sean Gastonguay appeared on TruNews with Rick Wiles yesterday to discuss his plans to leave with his wife and children once again to escape what he perceives as anti-Christian persecution.
- See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/conservative-christian-voyagers-who-were-lost-pacific-plan-leave-again-fear-immigration-refo#sthash.Pm6fPgag.dpuf
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Kiribati has a perfectly good airport. Have you ever considered.....no. I really don't think you have.
petronius
(26,602 posts)Please don't tell these boneheads about our airport. In fact, lets just tell them that we moved. Or we're closed for the season. Or something like that. Thanks for your help!
Sincerely,
The Republic of Kiribati
(Caveat: I don't actually live in, nor do I represent, the Republic of Kiribati or its interests.)
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)The residents of Kiribati are thinking, "How fucking far away do we have to be to escape these assholes?!"
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Archae
(46,340 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Otherwise they would have already arrived at their destination by commercial airline transport.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)KT2000
(20,585 posts)these people obviously place their insanity before the safety of their children.
haele
(12,663 posts)Great planning.
Mariana
(14,858 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Airports are great -- but they take away from martyrdom...
arcane1
(38,613 posts)And then there is this:
In June 2008, Kiribati officials asked Australia and New Zealand to accept Kiribati citizens as permanent refugees. Kiribati is expected to be the first country to lose all its land territory to global climate change. In June 2008, the Kiribati president Anote Tong said that the country has reached "...the point of no return." He added, "To plan for the day when you no longer have a country is indeed painful but I think we have to do that."
In early 2012, the government of Kiribati purchased the 2,200-hectare Natoavatu Estate on the second largest island of Fiji, Vanua Levu. At the time it was widely,but incorrectly, reported that the Government planned to evacuate the entire population of Kiribati to Fiji. However, in April 2013, President Tong began urging citizens to evacuate the islands and migrate elsewhere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiribati#Independence_to_present_day
Is it wrong for to laugh if these fools end up being deported as illegal immigrants once they arrive?
LuvNewcastle
(16,847 posts)It's all a liberal lie to destroy families and get people to have abortions. Gawd said, "Be fruitful and multiply," don't you know? Humans can breed all they want; Gawd created a world that will take care of all of us. Have faith, arcane 1!
Dpm12
(512 posts)...or a curse?
Rex
(65,616 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)(although Grandma runs a close second).
Chan790
(20,176 posts)Kiribati may not want them and will probably deport them back to the US.
LuvNewcastle
(16,847 posts)Bibles and start telling everybody they're going to hell.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)Or are they just waiting for Jebus' dad to send another flood?
gopiscrap
(23,762 posts)struggle4progress
(118,319 posts)immigrate illegally to Kiribati!"
d_r
(6,907 posts)why in the world would they hat pick Kiribati? Islands that are already over crowded and asking for refugees to be accepted in Australia, predicted to be the first island overtaken by water due to global warming. Why not pitcairn? or something like dolce or Henderson? Why the Gilberts?
xfundy
(5,105 posts)All the animals, insects, bacteria, germs and other microscopic creatures will line up and march in pairs up the boat ramp, just like in the sunday school pics.
Hekate
(90,751 posts)Out on the equator lies a threadbare nation of 33 squat islands and wispy atolls that trails 5,000 kilometres west across the Pacific; Kiribati is an unbounded oceanic territory of warming and rising seas, shrinking landfalls and dwindling fresh water. The living are being told to leave. ...
The waves are slowly seeping over Kiribati, which is at the frontline of the climate-change-induced rise in sea levels striking low-lying nations all over the world. Formerly part of the Gilbert and Ellice Islands a British protectorate until the mid 1970s Kiribati is lower, frailer and more defenceless. It may be the first nation to enter an end game against climate change.
Kiribatis leaders now face wrenching questions: How many of its 100,000 people will need to leave? Where will they go? How will it feed those remaining? And, as its islands become uninhabitable, can Kiribati remain a nation at all?
BEFORE A JET TOUCHES DOWN ON TARAWAS RUNWAY, a ritual intensified by climate change must be enacted on the ground. So over-crowded is Tarawa 51,000 people are jammed onto a 35-kilometre-long sliver of coral that a few hundred people now live in shanties made of discarded wood and palm fronds within the scrub next to the runway. Just before the only air link with the outside world lands a Boeing 737 comes twice a week from Fiji a white truck is sent up and down the runway to warn off the squatters and others who use the strip as a thoroughfare. Sometimes the airports aged fire engine joins in. A red flag is hoisted from a low control tower as the jet screams toward a runway just a few metres above sea level.
Tarawas population density of 5,200 people per square kilometre equates to Londons. It is fast increasing. Almost every metre of land available for dwellings has been taken. The atolls graveyards are full, and public health officials are troubled that people frequently bury the dead alongside their homes and hand-dug wells.
The Kiribati government forecasts that the population on Tarawa will double to 103,000 in 17 years if it cannot persuade legions of its citizens to emigrate, slow their birth rate (currently nearly double Australias) and move at least some to outer islands.
But some outer islands are also being invaded by the sea. Their fragile fresh water reserves stored naturally beneath the ground are dying away and more and more displaced outer islanders are flocking to Tarawa.
The population pressure is now so great that a health catastrophe foments; hundreds of squatters are living where dwellings are banned on top of Tarawa atolls main water lens, the shallow underground bubble in which fresh water gathers when rain seeps through the ground. This lens is the main source of fresh water for tens of thousands of people water from it is pumped throughout Tarawa. The squatters living atop this vital supply, which sits barely 1.5 metres below ground level, keep pigs and dogs and are likely to be burying animals nearby. There is a real possibility of serious contamination, such as by cholera, triggered by faeces or decomposing tissue leaching through the ground to the fresh water.
BUNDLES OF WIRING DROOP out of the of the disintegrating ceilings within the offices of Kevin Rouatas Public Utilities Board. Around this building, in bustling, dusty Betio, the commercial centre of Tarawa, and its most overcrowded district, people live jammed together in houses and shanties. Here, the population density is estimated to be three times that of Tokyo.
I think I've exceeded the max for quotes, but I recommend the article. The Gastonguays are entirely out of touch with reality and unless they are stopped they will get their children drowned at sea along with themselves. I'd say dump them off on Tarawa, but the Kiribatans have done nothing to deserve this bit of American madness to add to the abundant troubles they already have.
xfundy
(5,105 posts)With incest, just like in the bible.
Hekate
(90,751 posts)LuvNewcastle
(16,847 posts)living in paradise here in Mississippi.
xfundy
(5,105 posts)Ordered your Ark patterns yet?
I've never been to MS, but I've been to Alabama, so I got what I imagine is a small taste of what you live with. Hope you can get out of there if that's your wish.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)now that they know these people are coming
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Great plan, dumbasses.
mikeysnot
(4,757 posts)doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results... I feel for their children.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)Then let 'em drown. Yes, that's heartless.
Nay
(12,051 posts)children on a voyage that they most probably won't survive, considering they barely survived the first time they pulled this brain-dead stunt?
Rather than spend hundreds or thousands on a second rescue, can we just buy them some goddamn plane tickets????
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Unreal they're going to do this again....wacko's.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)dkf
(37,305 posts)Thought they had sailed off and gotten lost.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)if they area risk to themselves or others.
These people have kids that their lunacy is putting at risk.
LuvNewcastle
(16,847 posts)before their parents kill them.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Because American religious fundamentalists believe that science is part of the liberal government conspiracy to persecute "real" Christians.