Change is going to be very difficult. The problem is the gun fanatics do make gun 'freedom' their #1 issue, and turn out and vote. Only takes 10% or so to shift an election in most districts. Same thing goes with the anti-choice zealots. That zeal has to be matched by our zeal in order to turn the tide.

seems to be peetering out; we're actually getting used to these massacres, and that's intolerable.

Not condoning killing. but you know most selfish Americans only care when it affects them. They lack the ability to show concern for others

...with their last shot. Too bad it isn't their first shot (I don't condon any killing either, but......)

but I'll bet if the bankers were for gun control there'd be a special session of congress (over christmas if necessary) passing a law.

I guess none of the 'gun nuts' are mad at bankers or Wall Street criminals. Seems kind of odd that they're only mad at small children, movie goers, college students and naval yard workers.

It is easy to pick on defenseless people.pick on the big cohones and somone might cause you some trouble.

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There are relatively few districts in the US that can be swung with a 10% movement in the vote.

I wish that it were - we would have a much more rational government, but more than about 80% of seats are districted so that they are completely safe. Until gerrymandering goes, much of the US will remain hostage to highly partisan primary battles.

as often as Republicans try to vote down Obamacare...... OKAY!!

and regardless, a significant # of them agree with the GOP on this issue, good luck with this idea.

This issue is settled - cemented into place by the constitution, the SCOTUS, and gun lobby $. It will take decades to pry it open and inject sanity into the discussion. Decades.

I despair for this land.

my emotion runs away and overrides what I know. I only worry if it happens more than 3 times a day.
I'm still good.

We have to be realistic. Democrats in 'hunting states' have to have at least one campaign photo with a hunting rifle over their shoulder or kiss their seat goodbye.

Sentiment in this country has to shift before the democrats in congress come down on that side of such a highly charged emotional issue.

Mandatory gun insurance is the way to approach this. At least then you have another powerful lobby (the insurance industry) behind you. If it costs a lot of money to own a gun - the people who want guns so bad will start getting rid of them.

if there's a gun in the house the rates go up, based on the very real danger of an accident happening.

They can't get a vote on the floor.

Meet the Press is simply Meet with John McCain every fucking Sunday.

Why are those shows overrun with Republicans? Where are the Dems?

SO dead on.......

they want you to run up big bills so their corporations can make big money

The GOPee gets off easy. Every. F/cking. Time.

Then they could take more of our House and Senate seats. If it were a national effort, they might even use it to take the presidency.

Bad move. Stick to issues we can win.

...extremist kooks only hurt their own cause.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

... I want a Democratic veto-proof House and Senate so bad I can taste it. Yummy!

made 44% of Americans believe it is evil. Let's try it with gun control.

every fucking day

I went to school with Steve - funny guy.

But in reality, I doubt any member of congress would sign on for that. It would be catnip to their NRA-funded opponents. A guaranteed election-loser, so they'd back away from it like kryptonite.

I am beyond angry, beyond disgusted and frankly, beyond hope of ever getting sensible gun control passed in our country. No one in elected office has the balls to stand up, REALLY stand up to gun freaks.

Hit them and hit them again!

Thanks for the thread, babylonsister.