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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 08:46 AM Sep 2013

Walgreens Boots 120,000 Employees Off Healthcare, Tells Them To Go Buy Their Own Plans

http://www.businessinsider.com/walgreens-shifts-employees-off-healthcare-2013-9

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Walgreen Co is moving 120,000 employees to a private health insurance exchange from coverage provided directly from carriers, the company will announce Friday.

The pharmacy chain will join 17 other large employers on the Aon Hewitt Corporate Health Exchange as part of a growing movement to offer employees cash to purchase their own plans on such exchanges.

The end-cost to employees depends on the plan chosen, but they typically get more options than under traditional arrangements. Private exchanges mimic the coverage mandated as part of the Affordable Care Act. Enrollment in the public exchanges starts October 1.

"What happens to employer contributions over time? Will they put in as much as they put in the past? These are unanswered questions but potential negatives," says Paul Fronstin, a senior research associate with the Employee Benefit Research Institute. The benefit to Walgreen and other employers is unknown at this point, as their cost-savings are not clear.



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Walgreens Boots 120,000 Employees Off Healthcare, Tells Them To Go Buy Their Own Plans (Original Post) xchrom Sep 2013 OP
I'm assuming these are part time workers? vi5 Sep 2013 #1
They will be, if they are not already. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #3
They don't have to... wercal Sep 2013 #6
The more companies do this, the more likely we are to get to single payer. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #2
True, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2013 #4
I'm glad you see it as a positive down the road... HereSince1628 Sep 2013 #5
It depends on the employer's approach. Jeff In Milwaukee Sep 2013 #8
Feduciary responsiblity demands maximizing profit, I'm afraid there is little counter-force HereSince1628 Sep 2013 #9
Fiduciary n/t tabasco Sep 2013 #12
+1 I haven't understood why businesses don't recognize the benefit of single payer... OneGrassRoot Sep 2013 #7
With all the employers we've been hearing about that are doing this, Brigid Sep 2013 #10
Let's hope so. It would be great if we have the ACA modified to a single payer LuvNewcastle Sep 2013 #11
 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
1. I'm assuming these are part time workers?
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 08:48 AM
Sep 2013

Otherwise doesn't the employer HAVE to provide the coverage?

wercal

(1,370 posts)
6. They don't have to...
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 09:17 AM
Sep 2013

They can pay the penalty. Its a fairly simple calculus.

Say it cost $10 a year to provide insurance, but the penalty is $5 a year. Walgreens will tell their employees 'we're giving you an extra $4 a year to go to the exchanges'...the hassle of healthcare is gone, and they saved money.

The big question, though....who makes up for the unaccounted for dollar?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
2. The more companies do this, the more likely we are to get to single payer.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 08:50 AM
Sep 2013

The employees are no worse off and get a bigger choice of policies. And the biggest obstacle to single payer is the "I don't need it, my employer covers me" attitude.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
5. I'm glad you see it as a positive down the road...
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 09:15 AM
Sep 2013

Maybe I've just got a bad attitude.

The corporations are trying to out-source all cost, and in addition, as many as half the states are freezing or otherwise making access to medicaid much more difficult. In DC, the pragmatic discussion around healthcare costs seems similarly libertarian...attempting to avoid rather than extend the costs of social obligations.

If this the path to single payer, the course is going to include high hurdles and as yet unseen curves.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
8. It depends on the employer's approach.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 09:24 AM
Sep 2013

If they're taking the costs for providing a health plan, then shifting it to the employee's wages so they can purchase plans on their own, I've got no particular problem with it.

If they're just using this as a douchebag means of cutting costs, then it's a problem.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
9. Feduciary responsiblity demands maximizing profit, I'm afraid there is little counter-force
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 09:38 AM
Sep 2013

to maintain anything that even begins as a balanced approach.

The easiest approach for them is to freeze the dollar amount of their contributions...inflation will then go to work to reduce the employers' effective costs. Inflation in healthcare is historically extraordinary.

That's the basic reason for the interest in shifting business AND government out from under any obligation to fund it.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
7. +1 I haven't understood why businesses don't recognize the benefit of single payer...
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 09:23 AM
Sep 2013

My hope all along is that you are indeed correct.



Brigid

(17,621 posts)
10. With all the employers we've been hearing about that are doing this,
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 10:26 AM
Sep 2013

We may eventually end up with something akin to single-payer by default.

LuvNewcastle

(16,855 posts)
11. Let's hope so. It would be great if we have the ACA modified to a single payer
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 10:37 AM
Sep 2013

system before it's even totally implemented.

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