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handmade34

(22,756 posts)
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 10:51 AM Sep 2013

House spending bill includes $174,000 payment to deceased senator's widow

My condolences to Mrs. Lautenberg (whose late husband's assets were put at an estimated $55 million) ...I'm thinking though, that this $174,000 might be better transferred to the SNAP program...

...just thinking


http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/323725-house-spending-bill-includes-174000-payment-to-lautenbergs-widow

The short-term spending bill passed by the House today includes a $174,000 payment to the widow of former Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), who died in June at the age of 89.
"Notwithstanding any other provision of this joint resolution, there is appropriated for payment to Bonnie Englebardt Lautenberg, widow of Frank R. Lautenberg, late a Senator from New Jersey, $174,000," the resolution states in Section 134.
Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) highlighted the inclusion of the language in a Friday post on its website, which asked why Congress would be "throwing money at a multimillionaire."

CREW said Lautenberg's assets were estimated to exceed $57 million in 2011. "How is this a top funding priority?" the group asked....Congress typically pays out a "death gratuity" to surviving family members in an amount that equals the salary of the member, which is now $174,000..."The self-serving attitude that the death gratuity embodies places members of Congress above the public they are elected to serve," CREW wrote. "The last place this giveaway belongs is in legislation intended to contain only the essential measures to keep the government open."

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House spending bill includes $174,000 payment to deceased senator's widow (Original Post) handmade34 Sep 2013 OP
They should means-test a death benefit? jberryhill Sep 2013 #1
ahh... means testing... handmade34 Sep 2013 #2
Give this one a rest jberryhill Sep 2013 #3
I'll rest when this totally ridiculous and shameful practice stops. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #4
"the death gratuity embodies places members of Congress above the public" jberryhill Sep 2013 #5
It is fairly common among people like us, for working class people it is not. Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #6
Really? Where is this a common employment benefit? avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #7
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. They should means-test a death benefit?
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 11:12 AM
Sep 2013

Is that the point?

It takes a very special kind of tin ear to make a point out of this one.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
2. ahh... means testing...
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 11:51 AM
Sep 2013

until we have a rational tax system and an end to the great wealth inequality in this country and an end to the humiliating means testing of poor people (especially in many hidden ways)... ---"Means-testing divides us into rich and poor, each resenting the other"---
my point here is that (I agree with CREW) the tax free death gratuity really should be ended in Congress...

http://www.citizensforethics.org/blog/entry/end-congress-death-gratuity

Congress traditionally has provided benefits to families of members of Congress who die in office. According to a 2012 CRS report, Congress pays to defray some funeral expenses, the erection of the monument, and for a delegation to attend the funeral, in addition to more symbolic expressions of mourning. This is on top of traditional retirement benefits. Congress also pays for a “death gratuity” — a payment to a surviving family member in the amount of the member’s annual salary, $174,000. Federal law treats that payment as a gift, so the recipient receives a year’s salary tax free
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. Give this one a rest
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 06:41 PM
Sep 2013

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to begrudge a widow one year's salary for a spouse who died while in public service to this country.

I don't care what else she got, the man was a longstanding public servant, and if you want to look for government waste, look elsewhere.

This one, IMHO, is just petty.
 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
4. I'll rest when this totally ridiculous and shameful practice stops.
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 01:53 PM
Sep 2013

We are talking handing a millionaire/multimillionaire Congressperson's beneficiary a payout of almost a quarter of a million dollars and for what?!! I question the ethics of this practice.

Why is the average taxpayer paying who is struggling to feed their own family, paying for this kind of benefit for millionaire and multimillionaire members of Congress?

Congress members if they want this kind of benefit for their widow or beneficiaries should purchase their own insurance policy just like anyone else would.



CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington



End Congress' Death Gratuity

In addition to whatever else the House jammed into last-minute legislation that would (barely) keep the government open, the House voted this morning to give a $174,000 gift to the widow of Sen. Frank Lautenberg. While we join Vice President Biden in offering our condolences to Mrs. Lautenberg and her family, why is the government throwing money at a multimillionaire? Sen. Lautenberg’s assets exceeded $57 million in 2011. How is this a top funding priority?

The situation is even more galling when you think about the choice it represents. Congress just voted to cut food stamps for poor children. A shameful number were unwilling to support relief from the devastation wrought by Hurricane Sandy. And the gears of progress have ground to a halt while the House has — pointlessly — voted more than 40 times to repeal Obamacare. In fact, another such senseless vote was held today. But there’s no obstacle — or objection — to helping out a member of the congressional club.

Congress traditionally has provided benefits to families of members of Congress who die in office. According to a 2012 CRS report, Congress pays to defray some funeral expenses, the erection of the monument, and for a delegation to attend the funeral, in addition to more symbolic expressions of mourning. This is on top of traditional retirement benefits. Congress also pays for a “death gratuity” — a payment to a surviving family member in the amount of the member’s annual salary, $174,000. Federal law treats that payment as a gift, so the recipient receives a year’s salary tax free.

Representatives and senators are in a better position to plan for their financial future. The average member of Congress is much wealthier than the average citizen, and has sufficient resources to purchase life insurance and otherwise plan ahead. While there is reasonable debate about congressional compensation, a death gratuity is unseemly and unnecessary. When you look at what Congress should be prioritizing, it is outrageous.

The self-serving attitude that the death gratuity embodies places members of Congress above the public they are elected to serve. The last place this giveaway belongs is in legislation intended to contain only the essential measures to keep the government open.

There are a lot of people who need a little help from the government. Let’s make sure the money goes to them.

http://www.citizensforethics.org/blog/entry/end-congress-death-gratuity
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. "the death gratuity embodies places members of Congress above the public"
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 02:11 PM
Sep 2013

Oh, bullshit. It's a fairly common employment benefit.
 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
6. It is fairly common among people like us, for working class people it is not.
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 02:16 PM
Sep 2013

In fact, for them what is common is for their former employer to get a payday when their employee dies. The family gets thousands of dollars in additional expenses, that they don't have, at the worst possible time.

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