Top 20 signs you might be a counterproductive left wingnut
1. You blame Democrats for what Republicans doWhenever the GOP does something, that becomes the Democrat's fault.
2. You imagine that President Obama is a dictator and he's deliberately making sure that Congress doesn't help people
You argue that all Obama needs to do is "fight harder" and "show some backbone" against the thinly-disguised GOP racists, and then they'd all just fall in line.
3. You're not a regular campaign volunteer. In fact, you think writing screeds on DU is activism
You don't even know what cutting-turf is. You've never actually tried to convince an uncommitted voter, rather than attack people outside your little echo chamber.
4. Most of your DU screeds are not anti-Republican, they're anti-Democratic
You constantly crow that you're just "holding feet to the fire" except the vast majority of your screeds only bash Democrats. And often take on Republican coloring, like a reflexive belief in government and Democratic administration being evil.
5. You refuse to credit the President for anything you actually like, instead focusing purely on your hatred of him
If the President gets a very good deal, 99% of what you want, you'll rant about the 1% he had to give up. "Compromise" to you means everyone agreeing with what you want 100%.
6. No one can remember the last time you actually praised anyone or anything, except someone else's hate-filled anti-Democratic screed
You seem to never have anything positive to say, leading most to believe that you're a very angry, bitter, person, with little emotional maturity. And other hate-filled screeds are all you manage to praise.
7. You refuse to acknowledge that people on the other side of a debate have any legitimate concerns at all - like trying to keep a dictatorial regime from gassing its own people
Your fellow Democrats must be obsessed with bloodlust and love war, or at least that's what you believe.
8. You never provide a argument about what should be done instead that would address the other side's concerns
An actual argument that would potentially be agreeable to both sides might actually change minds, but that would deprive you of your ability to feel sanctimonious. In fact, "Third Way" is an anathema to you.
9. You counter any moral argument with a diatribe about some past bad action taken by the U.S. - nearly always done during Republican leadership 10 to 50 years ago
All reprehensible actions taken by anyone outside the U.S. can be justified in a kindergarten "we did it once too" by bringing up some ancient cold-war wrong, nearly always done during a Republican administration.
10. Instead of congratulating Democratic leaders on making what you feel to be the right choice, you imagine you have "defeated" the people who were actually mature enough to change their minds
You live in a black and white world of a zero-sum game, where someone else's winning means your losing and vice-versa. Therefore anything you like that happened is due to a "defeat" of the Democratic President.
11. You see no difference between Democrats and Republicans
Boy, there is not a single whit of difference, because you haven't gotten your maximalist position on everything.
12. Your arguments reference no facts, but are instead filled with unsubstantiated assertions. Your counter-arguments are ROTL icons
Did you know that President Obama is secretly twisting arms to destroy Social Security? Well, just because it isn't true doesn't keep you from stating it as fact. Any vague rumor is automatically true if it shows Democrats in a bad light. Your counterarguments typically run like this: "You're Quoting the New York Times?!?
" You aren't actually laughing.
13. You dismiss facts that don't fit your worldview, and personally attack people who provide them
ProSense drives you crazy, what with all her facts and figures and research that disprove your assertions. You attack people specifically when their references refuting your made-up B.S. are long and well documented.
14. You Godwin political discussions, liberally attacking other Democrats with words like "Authoritarian", "Police State", "Hitler", "Fascist", "Corporatist"
the new dog-whistle for fascist)
You call people who explain mainstream Democratic thought Obama "apologists", ignoring that there is absolutely nothing to "apologize" for. Paradoxically, taking actions to actually stop a dictator from gassing little children to death is something you are against. You never acknowledge that Hitler wasn't stopped with a sternly-worded letter either.
15 You imagine that the DU is representative of mainstream Democratic thought, instead of being a place for the very liberal left to gather
And further, you actually argue that your positions are correct simply because the majority of the D.U. hold it. Here is a small point of fact: President Obama's approval rating among Democrats is 85%.
16. You have "left" the Democratic party and/or are sole-arbiter on who is actually a "Democrat" and who isn't
Anyone who actually likes President Obama clearly can't be a real Democrat in your mind. You have also written a "Goodbye cold cruel DU - because people don't support me right or wrong - I will never vote Democratic again". For bonus points, you've done both.
17. You continue to make excuses for Nader
And others who strengthen the GOP by dividing the Democratic coalition.
18. You imagine that anyone would pay to try to convince people like you that mainstream Democratic thinking is correct
Any time you lose an argument, or someone shows your assertion is complete bullshit by referencing established facts (see ProSense), they are clearly being paid to do so. Never mind that actual Koch propaganda is as nutcase and unconvincing as you are, it's all a grand conspiracy, I tell ya! A conspiracy!
19. You recognize many of these behaviors in the Tea Party, and recognize how much they're damaging the Republicans, but don't acknowledge the same in your own behavior
Your few moments of clarity come when you look at the GOP and see how their extremists are destroying their brand. But the similarities between the Tea Party and you (including a reflexive hatred of the U.S. government and conspiracy mongering) is something that you refuse to acknowledge.
20. You are incredibly offended by this list
Are you pissed off by this list? Maybe there is a reason for that.
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What makes you think it'll have an end?
And, Provocative!
I like it.
op reflects love of any kind.
I do not think there is a single person (other than trolls) that fits your post here. But I will
and see what happens.
Hey - best of luck to you and thank you for doing that!
Keep us posted with your progress. 
Again with the hate business. Here's a bit of a clue: you're projecting. We don't hate you. You hate us. I might pity you a bit for being so constantly, utterly wrong, but that's a different matter.
For instance, take your statement about "what a minority" we are. Please look at the following chart.
As you can see by the poll, Very Liberal people (which is what you are, in addition to being counterproductive) comprise 10% of the Democratic party. Meanwhile, 20% of the Democratic party see themselves as "Conservative" or "Very Conservative".
So while I am under-represented on this website, to the point where some DUers will say "Conservative Democrat" is "an oxymoron", in the real world, my side of the party is twice the size of "very liberal" Democrats.
Almost too much so. I'd like to pull some of those Very Conservative Dems more to being merely Conservative. Again, contrary to your utter wrongness, our end of the party is generally very rational, and we have no desire to follow the GOP into their wingnut hellhole.
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
Your hate for Obama was supposed to blind you to the math. 
Pronouns are important.
This is what DU has become.
On this OP I
RL
You are not winning over any of the 'counterproductive leftists,' with your 'my way or the highway' attitude. It feels kind of like you're telling us to sit down & shut up. We've heard that before.
Shame on you for telling another DUer that protesting did no good. 
how's it going? should we start an argument for old times sake 
reading DU daily, I think there's quite a few people who it fits fairly well.
I can think of some DUers who fit the list to a tee, but I don't feel like calling anyone out, plus its a Saturday 
But it'd be hidden. 
Now be nice to me as those are "Left Wingnut ROFL's"
on edit: I know we don't have them anymore, but if we did...
WTF is that supposed to be or mean? Geez.
I think the vast majority of DUers try to do the best that they can.
Remember, they're under a lot of stress also.. 
How many on the list fit you? Just asking.
You said you voted for him twice, yet from a lot of your posts this year, the beginning of his second term, you have said he was a total failure in one post, slammed him in many others, so as soon as he started his second term you find out that he was such a failure?
Have you posted anything positive about the president this year? If so please link be to the post and I will gladly apologize.
The problem I have with how you "want" to change the party is that turning it over to the crazies, and waiting for the next election when you say people will wake up after being subjected to the insane thinking of said crazies, doesn't make any sense. Look at the damage George W. Bush did to this country. Letting the crazies run things will make what Bush did look like a picnic in the park! Even if your theory was right and the "next" election they got voted out , how much damage would they have done "before" being voted out? In the case of 2016 and getting a president Christie, which you also have said "we could to worse", what do you think he would do to help the country? What kind of judges would he put on the Supreme court? You really need to think about some of these things because putting the nuts in office is't going to fix a thing, it will only cause more hardship for those at the bottom, and more money for those at the top.
Putting the crazies in charge would simple be a total disaster.
This:
Republicans in power will attempt to implement crazy with respect to social issues. It will be their death knell. Regardless, the social issues can wait as I recognize these social issues as the carrot that the third way is dangling before us. I will temporarily remove that carrot. For me, the primary issue is the concentration of wealth at the expense of the working poor. The GOP are the least of my concerns right now if the only alternative to GOP economic policy is more GOP economic policy.
Can you have social justice without economic justice? I believe that economic justice is the foundation of a just society. I liken it to three hots & a cot, which trumps social issues. How does it benefit the 99% to have social justice, if we are oppressed economically? A democratic president was the first to suggest cuts to social security. Did he do it? No, but he suggested it, and now it's out there. In the first Borg Star Trek episode, at the end, Guinan warns Picard, "But now that they know you're out here..." Making cuts to SS is on the table now & a dem prez did it!
This may be my favorite political cartoon of the time:
This is what voting for the lesser of two evils gets you - exactly what you were voting against in the first place.
Stop writing those words right now! You have strayed outside the officially defined boundaries of 'journalism'. There will be no thinking outside the cardboard cubical, you unpatriotic fuck.
I always did hate it when I was put into on of those boxes. I guess I just can't help myself!
I find your OP offensive. You maybe had a mirror in front of you when you wrote that?
You sure are not on the Left of that graphic, that's for sure
It tingles my senses every time.
Nice to see you, winter is coming!
Because it is fun.
I'm sure you'll be very happy with the new republican Congress.
-p
RL
This thread is going places.
Like I said, this thread is really going places.
people are almost ready to break out their riffles!
you might have a case here.
Conservative Democrats (DLC, Third Way) have controlled the Democratic party for the past thirty years, and the country has been going downhill like a snowball to hell the entire time.
Maybe y'all should just step aside and let liberals handle things from here on out, so we can start making some real democratic progress again, before progress becomes completely impossible.
"Mr. Conscience". Spare me mr conservative republican.
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The OP, which insults 66% of DUers (i.e. Liberals), has 31 recs by those who are, apparently, perfectly happy with the status quo AND have no issue with such a blatant, broadbrush attack on 66% of their fellow DUers.
This list is DLC/Third-way horse shit. I invite you to self-delete, but since you're a drive-byer, I'm sure you won't see my post.
Regardless, I'm on the record...
On edit: as of 8:58am, this thread has 76 recs. This response thread has 225.
Doing the math, I was RIGHT on the money - 66% of all recs are for the response thread, indicating that 66% of DUers identify with it as opposed to this one.
Sorry. 
Wake up and forget all about it
There will be something new...well, maybe not today, maybe tomorrow--
...no big surprises.
And certainly not over endorsing this sort of drek posted by ConservativeDemocrat.
Just pointed out to another poster who's bewildered by the recommendations, what sort of people are giving those recommendations. As it happens, it's the same clump of people I regularly see screeching about the awfulness of liberals and the left and what a miserable place DU is.
Yet unlike the PUMAS of yore, they lack the stomach to fuck off and do their own thing away from us terrible leftist ninnies. I don't get it.
And the people leaping to infer every sinister motive to this president and accuse him of being stupid, dishonest, a corporatist empty suit who only works for the 1%. Those are the people that I think are crazy and beyond all hope and reason. And judging by the ban hammer that's been getting laid down around here lately, alot of other folks think the same.
Your posts in this thread have illuminated the character of the people that make these types of comments. You leap in with personal attacks of people being members of the John Birch Society. Some of the folks you made that claim towards are DUers of color, which makes your comment that much more mindlessly, needlessly stupid and inflammatory. And then you proceed with the Number23 is our Lord and Master bullshit which not only is just incredibly stupid, it really shows that you have no interest in anything beyond name-calling and shit-stirring. I'm sure you have lots of friends in this forum as a result.
and the posting style would make it impossible for you to determine which one it is. Always the same thing. Always.
Thankfully I only have a small percentage of time spent on their waste of time and MOST of the time on DU is spent talking about important things like the ACA or how we can get the House back in 2014.
"Walled zone" I love that. 
What a nasty characterization...
I rec'd because it's fucking hilarious. I love GD drama.
Or at least when they aren't posting pictures of moderates in swim suits.
News Flash: creating a comprehensive stereo-type you can use to frame DU into simplistic us-them scenarios might help you feel better but as a description of reality it's pretty silly.
From the people I expected.
Copied the post to a notepad on my desk-top. Its going to be REALLY tempting to cut and paste from the list to respond to some future posts. Bet it would really piss off a few 'PURE' Democrats!
To stir or not to stir????
By the way... provocative and discussion provoking post. 1000 points for bravery at the least.
replying to some of the responses. Are you the 'reply police'?
and have seen multiple responses....I repeat who voted you the reply police?????
The arrogance!!!!
Oh my
unless it's signified by a
?
Rather pathetic, really.
I have a pretty good sense of humor, but posting a picture of laxatives in response to me saying the post hit hard.....
It just wasn't very creative. Scooter could have done a lot better IMO.
To be lectured by conservatives.
DU, where are you?
You and your ilk are "counterproductive left wingnuts"
The irony is lost on you, isn't it?
Most of your DU screeds are not anti-Republican, they're anti-Democratic
Like your op? lol
No one can remember the last time you actually praised anyone or anything, except someone else's hate-filled anti-Democratic screed
Like your OP? lol
You refuse to acknowledge that people on the other side of a debate have any legitimate concerns at all
When was the last time the Third Way acknowledged that people on the other side have legitimate concerns?
You never provide a argument about what should be done instead that would address the other side's concerns
You mean arguing on issues rather than attacking those who disagree with you, like this OP does? lol
You see no difference between Democrats and Republicans
You mean like the 'libertarian Ron Paul loving Snowden worshipers" meme? lol
Your arguments reference no facts, but are instead filled with unsubstantiated assertions. Your counter-arguments are ROTL icons'
Do the Third Wayers use facts to sway others, or do they merely attack those who disagree with them, and try to obfuscate the subject at hand?
You dismiss facts that don't fit your worldview, and personally attack people who provide them
Do third wayers dismiss facts that don't fit their worldview and attack those who provide them? Yes, and do does this OP lol
You Godwin political discussions, liberally attacking other Democrats with words like "Authoritarian", "Police State", "Hitler", "Fascist", "Corporatist" the new dog-whistle for fascist)
Does "Rand Paul loving, Libertarian firebagger" count? lol
You recognize many of these behaviors in the Tea Party, and recognize how much they're damaging the Republicans, but don't acknowledge the same in your own behavior
Like obfuscating, attempting to derail threads, and trying to poison the well, rather than rationally defending Obama's policies? lol
About 15 of your 'talking points' apply to the Third way. By your own wacky measure, the Third Way are counterproductive leftwing nuts!
you should seriously consider signing on there as a contributer. In any case, its a good illustration of the delusional thinking that is often exhibited by BOG types --⇨
on a regular basis, they could be the new and improved "the peoples view", and all the BOG-ers and others who hate DU and progressives can post their shit here!
how irrelevant DU is. Must be nice to have that kinda time to waste on a website that doesn't matter.
"Tell me....How many Republicans are posting on DU sir? Are you or have you ever been a member of the Republican party?" "Do you think you are a REAL liberal sir?" "Answer the question damn it!"
See...I can play too.
here is a link to my facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/steve.mac.71465?fref=ts
Yes the photo on facebook IS me (after reading some of the madness posted on this site).
My personal website is in park at the moment
I wear a size 10 shoe.
I drink whiskey straight
And even at 53, I live to bogie!
Now...How about you? Or are you afraid to show whats behind the number?
Now I feel kinda sorry for you. 
You're safe -- you didn't swoop in offering up yet another tedious attack on the left. Although your little ankle-biter routine is kinda cute.
but im not here to make friends. Im here to be informed and educated on peoples Ideas and opinions. What Im not here to do is be called names because of what I post, told that im not a 'TRUE' liberal or democrat or that if I respect my President for the good he has done that im some kind of brown-noser. I hear "ignore is your friend" all the time here but how can you hear differing opinions if you have to switch people off all the time because you are being ranted at instead of talked to. Your post to me proves the point. Condescending and juvenile. And unfortunately, Ignore is in your future. Sad because maybe you actually had something wise to say to me. But because you are a wise ass....Ignore!
The pro-leftwingnut thread is patting itself on the back for getting to the top of the Greatest Threads list. Cant you negative nellies out there post more 'This post is just stupid so shut up about me' replies here so we can keep this thread kicked. Come on...you can do it!
Remember... great pissing contests need lots of piss!
Dig deep for the indignation. Pull that sucker right out and bang it on the keyboard.
If it feels good do it...But not of course if its for Obama.
Keep the home (hair) fires burning guys and gals!
Ow...dislocated my shoulder patting myself on the back. Hey, why not everyone is doing it!
work is early and 8 hours entering data doesn't leave a lot for these old fingers for posting...
You'll have to wait til the next time.
Way to go ConservativeDemocrat. Keep them posting and kicking!
but only 93 posts......
Curious!
OK, who's double dipping?
than (a minority of) DUers cheering a poster who may be an Erick Erickson RedStater. You know, this gasbag:
All in the name of defending Obama. *That* must be the ODS I keep seeing referenced on this board.
As of 8:58am, this thread has 76 recs. This response thread has 225.
Doing the math, I was RIGHT on the money in my response to the OP - 66% of all recs are for the response thread, indicating that 66% of DUers identify with it as opposed to this one.
Everyone who recommended this thread; you're in the minority here on DU.
To the OP - epic fail.
While some of the RW Truth Squad at DU (aka, "The Swarm" make a valuable contribution and provide a necessary antidote to our own progressive Group Think, some are just here to disrupt and insult.
The OP is an example of a disruptive, insulting, and disrespectful post.
Even non-"Obama-Haters" should not like this.
Straw men arguments, entrappment fallacies ("if you disagree with this, that makes it true!" , loaded question fallacy, false dichotomy fallacies, projection, and mirrroring, all from someone with the same username as someone on RedState.com.
But this thread is a pile of garbage.
Nader? 2013?? NADER??? 
...that you just sort of riff on it and have fun.
Thanks, "Matthew."
from the violence, destruction, greed, malicious ignorance, and hateful authoritarian oppression of conservatism.
Avowed conservatives (see photo above) should not be allowed to post here.
You do (no sarcasm intended) win the thread.
And for the the OP -
And where did the UnRec button get to? I'm sure I saw it around somewhere. 
Well done!
well my hair is on fire!
you get (4) long noses for this BS!
Shocked, I tell you.
Not gonna happen, but funny to see it!
You post crap titled, 'Top 20 signs you might be a counterproductive left wingnut."
