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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 11:39 PM Sep 2013

Assad and the Death of the International Criminal Court

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/view_from_chicago/2013/09/failing_to_prosecute_assad_will_be_the_death_of_the_international_criminal.single.html

International law remains in a troubling limbo...



So when the United States, Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Turkey, and Israel all refused to ratify the ICC treaty, the court was crippled from the start. The United States feared that the ICC might pick on Americans, given that an independent body—staffed largely by foreigners—might believe that by singling out the United States, it could establish its bona fides with the rest of the world. Other countries that refused to ratify simply did not want a foreign court meddling in their affairs. They did agree that the U.N. Security Council would have the power to authorize the ICC to investigate and try anyone in the world for international crimes—a provision acceptable to the great powers because they control the council.

Without the big countries as members, the ICC—which lacks its own police force—could not call on them to arrest suspects in countries unwilling to give them up. The founders of the ICC faced a bad choice. They could offer immunity to the big countries in return for their participation, thus ensuring that the ICC would be regarded as illegitimate. Or they could give up on participation by the strong countries, draining the ICC of any power. They took the second path—but ended up depriving the ICC of legitimacy as well as power.

The countries that signed on were mostly peaceful democracies and poor countries embroiled in endless conflicts that could not be addressed with regular law enforcement. Because the ICC treaty specifically limits ICC involvement to cases where national legal institutions fall short, the ICC focused its attention on the latter group, which unfortunately were mostly African. In some cases, the African countries invited ICC participation, but in others it was thrust upon them. For example, the Security Council authorized the ICC to investigate Sudan, whose president Omar al-Bashir was indicted for his role in ethnic killings in Darfur. (He has refused to appear for trial.) Even a country like Uganda, which invited ICC participation, later found that as a result it could not offer an amnesty to insurgents in order to establish peace. As the ICC increasingly interfered in their affairs, African countries took the view that the court, in the words of Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni, is now being used by Western powers “to install leaders of their choice in Africa and eliminate the ones they do not like.” Meanwhile, the ICC—with an annual budget of more than $140 million and staff of about 700—has been able to convict only one person (the Congolese warlord Thomas Lubanga) in more than a decade.

Things have finally come to a head. The ICC has indicted two Kenyan leaders—President Uhuru Kenyatta and Deputy President William Ruto—for their role in fomenting violence during elections in 2007. In an odd twist, the leaders have voluntarily agreed to appear in court while working behind the scenes to undermine the prosecution. Witnesses are pulling out, most likely because of intimidation or bribery. And the Kenyan Parliament has voted to withdraw Kenya from the ICC. Other African countries have taken Kenya’s side and have expressed support for Sudan’s Bashir. If Kenya withdraws from the ICC, other African countries may follow its lead. And why shouldn’t they? Why should their leaders subject themselves and their constituents to the risk of criminal prosecution if the leaders of other countries don’t do the same?
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Assad and the Death of the International Criminal Court (Original Post) Recursion Sep 2013 OP
If Bush and Cheney are not prosecuted, why should anybody be? Downwinder Sep 2013 #1
Because the rest of the world exists, and getting some beats getting none. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2013 #4
This is kind of a disappointing article. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #2
weird how that map's in pan-african colors BOG PERSON Sep 2013 #8
Red/Yellow/Green is also stoplight colors Recursion Sep 2013 #9
I figured that, but didn't want to assume ... Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #10
Map Legend arthurgoodwin Sep 2013 #3
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Sep 2013 #6
Thank you and welcome to DU. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #11
The end of the ICC would be a good thing. David__77 Sep 2013 #5
International Law is a strange thing really treestar Sep 2013 #7

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
2. This is kind of a disappointing article.
Sun Sep 22, 2013, 12:05 AM
Sep 2013

Any mention about the illegitimacy or impotence of the ICC without taking into account the U.S.'s role with flaunting international law, seems to be pretty specious, at best.

Failing to mention Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, et al, and then talking about respect for international law just seems a little too ironic to be by accident.

Also, can you link to where that map is? There's no legend, so I can't make sense of it without making unwanted assumptions.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. Red/Yellow/Green is also stoplight colors
Sun Sep 22, 2013, 11:12 AM
Sep 2013

It's countries that have signed and ratified (green), signed only (yellow), and neither (red).

arthurgoodwin

(38 posts)
3. Map Legend
Sun Sep 22, 2013, 01:08 AM
Sep 2013

Map in post appears to be same map as is in Wikipedia article on the International Criminal Court. From the legend to the wiki map:
Green = countries that have both signed and ratified treaty
Yellow = countries that have signed treaty, but have not ratified it
Red = countries that have neither signed treaty nor acceded to it.

David__77

(23,553 posts)
5. The end of the ICC would be a good thing.
Sun Sep 22, 2013, 01:27 AM
Sep 2013

It is surely is doomed to failure. Other countries may follow the example of the United States and refuse its jurisdiction.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. International Law is a strange thing really
Sun Sep 22, 2013, 10:41 AM
Sep 2013

It's a great idea. But there is no way ultimately to enforce it. Nations have to agree to submit to it.

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