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Mass

(27,315 posts)
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 05:51 PM Sep 2013

Who needs good health anyway? (Digby)

Interesting read about where conservatism is going to:



Amanda Marcotte's piece today at RH Reality Check is a revelation on this subject. She points out that conservatives have been coming to the position that medicine --- indeed, health itself --- is a liberal plot and points to the anti-choice zealots as the ones who pioneered this bizarre philosophy. She uses that strange Koch Brothers funded "Generation Opportunity" Uncle-Sam-in-your-crotch ad as a perfect example of the philosophical synergy they've achieved:
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Unfortunately, this idea that promoting health "enslaves" the masses isn't entirely confined to the right. There are plenty of liberals who bridle at anyone telling them that access to unlimited cheap junk food isn't a constitutional right. But I think she's right that this antipathy to the very concept of good health, whether it be getting kids to eat vegetables or allowing women to have access to reproductive services, is rapidly becoming a fundamental tenet of conservatism. It's not that they don't think government should promote good health through programs, laws and communication, although they certainly don't believe that. They don't think people need to be or necessarily should be healthy.
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That's rather shocking, isn't it? And yet I think it's true. They don't see good health as a value that affects every human being's ability to live fully in this world. In fact they are hostile to the very concept. Wow.



Link that to the fact that some of them also refuse vaccination, leading to cluster of measles and other diseases that had been absent for many years, and we know what we need to know:

Conservatives are trying to pull the country back to the 19th century.
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TBF

(32,102 posts)
1. When I read anti-vaxxers and see their memes on Facebook
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 05:53 PM
Sep 2013

I always wonder which ad agency has prepared them (because I know darn well who is funding them). It saddens me to see naive liberals sucked into these thought processes.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
2. Well, even as a liberal I don't like all of this health crap today either
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 06:07 PM
Sep 2013

4 pages listing all the meds you take for a work physical? Getting SCREAMED at because I take None of the Above. Watching a 19 year old young woman CRY filling about that same meds list. WHY isn't she taking ANY meds???? Vacs? I HAD all those diseases as a child. No, dear doctor, I have NOT been vaccinated against a disease I had as child, have natural immunity, and survived 65 years.

Eligible for Medicare. Chock full of mail about all these PLANS. Even getting phone calls from SS telling me that I am eligible for government help for Part D scrips. WHAT scrips? You want to pay for my half dozen TYLENOL in a year? ROLF.

You want this stuff? Fine. Leave ME alone.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
3. We had to fill out a health self-assessment in order to get cheaper insurance.
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 06:14 PM
Sep 2013

My premiums go down if I fill it out and assert that I am tobacco-free. Well, I don't smoke, by my mother does and I when I visit, I probably acquire enough second-hand smoke to increase my risk factors a bit.

In any case, I simply lied on the self-assessment because they send constant emails and letters reminding you to get a physical or join a health club or what have you, if your numbers aren't in the "good" range. Which kind of seem like it defeats the purpose. But I'm tired of health busybodies telling me to eat this, don't eat that, exercise more, exercise LESS or differently. The information is plentiful but often contradictory and not based on science.

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