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Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 03:15 PM Sep 2013

Just came up with an idea that could bring manufacturing jobs back to the United States

Impose tariffs on any good manufactured overseas by a company that is based in the United States, any of its subsidiaries, or any United States company that was sold to a foreign corporation.

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NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
1. I'm pretty sure the Third Way embraces free trade
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 03:17 PM
Sep 2013

So yeah, that's not going to happen.

You really want manufacturing jobs back in the States? Easy 2 prong solution:

1) Import 3rd world workers
2) Enact 3rd world environmental protections

There you go. And as a bonus, your $99 iPhone will still be available!

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
2. Sadly, we would probably get sued under some "free trade" agreement or another.
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 03:20 PM
Sep 2013

But it's a great idea!

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
3. That would violate the FTAA and NAFTA and open the US to heavy trade sanctions.
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 03:32 PM
Sep 2013

If we put tariff's on the Apple XXIV made in China, the Tariff is against China. I do think it is a good idea, but it would not work or be implemented for that reason.

Instead of Tariffs, any corporation with headquarters in the US that manufacturers things outside the US could be taxed ten thousand dollars for every employee outside the United States to defray the costs to our economy when they ship jobs overseas. Any corporation that moves a manufacturing facility out of the country could be taxed the equivalent of a years wages on every job and the estimated benefit for the community.

We can also make a law that no federal government bureau can buy so much as a paper clip that is manufactured outside the US. This same legislation could be passed in states.

Finally, fair wages should in all countries in the world should be US foreign policy. The US should recognized and encourage Unions that work across national borders.

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
4. That may work also, but let's take it one step further....
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 03:42 PM
Sep 2013

I went to salary.com and search the pay scale for manufacturing jobs and picked boilermaker because that was first (feeling lazy). The median salary for a senior boiler maker is almost $54,000 and the 75th percentile is over $62,000 so I think we should tax them more than it would cost them to hire a U.S. employee, how about $100,000 each? That way, it would be financially beneficial to bring the job back home instead of just hurting their profits slightly by keeping the job overseas.

TampaAnimusVortex

(785 posts)
6. And whats the plan to stop the spread of 3D printers or robots?
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 04:01 PM
Sep 2013

Desktop manufacturing is poised to eliminate a huge amount of the remaining manufacturing jobs left in this country. Those jobs that got shipped overseas aren’t coming back because of this, as well as automation in general becoming much cheaper to deploy.

Rethink Robotics invented a $22,000 humanoid robot that competes with low-wage workers.
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/509296/small-factories-give-baxter-the-robot-a-cautious-once-over/

3D printing may put global supply chains out of business
http://www.zeitnews.org/natural-sciences/materials-science/3d-printing-may-put-global-supply-chains-out-business

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
7. And when other countries retaliate in kind?
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 04:29 PM
Sep 2013

If America ruled the world, it would be pretty easy to impose one-sided trade relations so that companies were forced to employ Americans in preference to people in other countries.

Thankfully, it doesn't. As a result, tariffs mean tariff wars; C.F. Hawley-Smoot and the great depression.

PETRUS

(3,678 posts)
8. Or reverse the Rubin-era "strong dollar" policies
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 04:29 PM
Sep 2013

A 10% decline in the value of the dollar vs. our trading partner's currencies is worth 5 million or so manufacturing jobs.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
9. That would just give foreign companies a huge advantage in selling in the US.
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 04:35 PM
Sep 2013

Samsung phones would be far less expensive than Apple phones.

Dell and HP PCs could not compete with Acer, Asus, Fujitsu, Samsung, and Toshiba.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
10. Tariffs have a way of biting back, or at least that's the position
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 04:43 PM
Sep 2013

of the free traders. Globalism depends on a minimum of tariffs. For the US, that means that our high-cost of manufacturing is a negative for sales outside of the US, but a plus for good imported into the US.

It's all pretty complicated, though, and not as simple to characterize as that simple explanation.

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