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wandy

(3,539 posts) Fri Mar 2, 2012, 05:59 PM Mar 2012

Mudding the waters to clear things up. Records retention.

I really don't want to give Sheriff Joe and his Pus_eeee any bright ideas but this is after all the 'digital' age.
In terms of physical space and cost, electronic records, are far safer and more effective than warehousing paper.
It would be logical for a municipality to 'scan in' Birth and Death certificates and retain only the data.
Unlike paper digital images can easel be stored at multiple locations for the sake of disaster recovery.
Yes, this means that President Obamas official birth certificate may only exist as ones and zeros.
Naturally you need to control that sort of thing. Follows is just one approach to record retention.
http://www.asaecenter.org/Resources/EnewsletterArticleDetail.cfm?ItemNumber=27512
Each business may have it's own polices. Each State may have it's own polices. The federal government has it's own polices.
If you back up you're PC YOU have a record retention policy!
So..... If not just to wine, carry on and spue hate; why all the fuss about Obamas birth certificate.
Someplace like this might quickly resolve the whole issue.
http://www.vitalchek.com/Birth.aspx?s_kwcid=TC|1026828|birth%20certificates%20record||S|b|11494569985&click_id=675821492097318914
Although you might need to be a law enforsment offical to obtain records other than you're own.
A Sheriff might qualify for that.

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Mudding the waters to clear things up. Records retention. (Original Post) wandy Mar 2012 OP

Muddying the waters, certainly. Clearing things up - nope. saras Mar 2012 #1

I guess NYC uses a different leagel system than the rest of the country.......... wandy Mar 2012 #2

saras

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1. Muddying the waters, certainly. Clearing things up - nope.

Reply to wandy (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 06:42 PM

Mar 2012

It's not the "digital age" for Sheriff Joe, so everything that follows is irrelevant to him.

Hell, it's not the "digital age" to anyone but people who believe in that sort of PR as a way of thinking about things.

But back to the OP
Safer and more effective aren't important to Sheriff Joe - they're YOUR priorities.
Legally, it isn't logical to replace authoritative paper records with meta-records. In a different legal system, it might be.
Storing multiple copies is incompatible conceptually with the concept of an authoritative master.

But in the big picture, NOBODY GIVES A SHIT. The birth certificate is an excuse - it's like you find a neighbor cutting up a kid with a chainsaw like Leatherface, and all you can do is criticize his choice of appliance, suggesting a sawzall might be less dangerous for Leatherface, if perhaps slower sawing through thighs and skulls.

wandy

(3,539 posts)

2. I guess NYC uses a different leagel system than the rest of the country..........

Reply to saras (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:17 PM

Mar 2012

Electronic Vital Events Registration System (EVERS)
http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/vr/vr-evers.shtml
Sheriff does have a difficult time understanding that the ones and zeros ARE the authoritave copy.
I don't want to get into the whole DRM thing so lets just point out that the off site electronic copies will have considerable phsycal security.
But of course you're right it's just an excuise.

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