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Armed Forces Radio Network Audience Feedback Email Page (Original Post) Hissyspit Mar 2012 OP
Thanks... JSnuffy Mar 2012 #1
My email to them: OregonBlue Mar 2012 #2
done. w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #3
Done. Zalatix Mar 2012 #4
They told me they do not censor. They're not doing anything...n/t monmouth Mar 2012 #5
Their reply to me to my and my reply to them: OregonBlue Mar 2012 #6
They don't censor...? So EVERYONE gets a show on AFN? Hissyspit Mar 2012 #7
It's there because it is popular... JSnuffy Mar 2012 #8
So replace it with a Girls Gone Wild radio show Hissyspit Mar 2012 #10
Only the sound of squealing drunken co-eds? JSnuffy Mar 2012 #13
I would appreciate a link Oilwellian Mar 2012 #11
I speak only from personal experience... JSnuffy Mar 2012 #12
alienating half the population doesn't exactly strike me as good business sense either frylock Mar 2012 #16
That implies that half of the population is alienated... JSnuffy Mar 2012 #18
DUh! bongbong Mar 2012 #21
Duh yourself... JSnuffy Mar 2012 #22
i think we will know within a few weeks.. frylock Mar 2012 #23
Guess you don't know many women, or framing bongbong Mar 2012 #25
So... JSnuffy Mar 2012 #28
Ha ha! bongbong Mar 2012 #31
Blinded by emotions bongbong Mar 2012 #20
Wow, your last sentence is right out of Limbaugh's playbook Kingofalldems Mar 2012 #24
Don't know much about that... JSnuffy Mar 2012 #27
You think they'd be OK with carrying a weekly Julian Assange show? DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #15
My message to them, the response, and my rebuttal csziggy Mar 2012 #9
i didn't pull any punches.. frylock Mar 2012 #14
Just tell them he is a degenerate who talks about sex on the air EFerrari Mar 2012 #17
Who funds them? Do we as taxpayers???? Anyone know??? jillan Mar 2012 #19
Rush's immediate employer is Premiere Radio Networks, Inc. ProfessionalLeftist Mar 2012 #26
I have mixed feelings about getting him off AFR mucifer Mar 2012 #29
it's not only that he denigrates women newspeak Mar 2012 #30
Done. Rex Mar 2012 #32
AFN also have a Facebook page that accepts comments. SeattleVet Mar 2012 #33
 

JSnuffy

(374 posts)
1. Thanks...
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:02 PM
Mar 2012

My comments to them...

_____________________________

Due to recent comments by Rush Limbaugh there will be pressure to remove him from the AFN airwaves.

If this decision is to be made it MUST be made by the AFN audience (the American Soldier) and no one else.

Please take this into consideration and go by what they want and not what the rest of the world might want.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
2. My email to them:
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:16 PM
Mar 2012

Last week a young women testified to Congress about women's healthcare. The next day Rush Limbaugh responded by calling her a “slut” and a “prostitute.” He told her to post videos of her sexual exploits online so he and his buddies could watch them. He did this because this young woman had the gall to testify about women's health needs.

What miss Fluke actually did was tell the story of a fellow law student who needed the birth control pill in order to deal with a medical condition. The friend ended up losing an ovary because she couldn’t afford contraception without insurance.

Instead of apologizing, today he upped the anti by saying that she was having so much sex that she couldn't afford birth control and that she needed to shut up and shut her legs.

My God, and you wonder why the U.S. military is having problems with women being raped. How long will you allow this kind of hate and misogyny to continue on Armed Forces Network?

What if this was your daughter, granddaughter, niece, mother?

It's way past time for Limbaugh to go. He is hateful and destructive to the nation and to the military.

Or do you at AFN agree with him?

w8liftinglady

(23,278 posts)
3. done.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:17 PM
Mar 2012

told them my son had done multiple deployments,and AFR was his sanity.For AFR to actively support Limbaugh,they are turning their back on every female servicemember and every soldier's wife/girlfriend. I told them I was going to look closely at what other sponsors support Limbaugh's hate speech.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
4. Done.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:25 PM
Mar 2012

For my daughter so that if she decides to join the military she won't be subjected to this crap.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
6. Their reply to me to my and my reply to them:
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:41 PM
Mar 2012

As a service of the Department of Defense, AFN does not advertise on Mr Limbaugh's program, offer products for sale, or sponsor any of the programs we relay to our audience.

The American Forces Network does not censor content and we do not seek to protect our overseas Department of Defense audience from hearing views with which they may disagree. Our mission is to offer program choices, which includes both the one-hour versions and three-hour version of various popular political talk shows.

To review our radio services/schedules, please visit www.myafn.net.

Thanks for your support of the troops and for your interest in AFN.

The American Forces Network does not censor content and we do not seek to protect our overseas Department of Defense audience from hearing views with which they may disagree. Our mission is to offer program choices, which includes both the one-hour versions and three-hour version of various popular political talk shows???

Since when did calling a young woman a slut and a prostitute for testifying before members of Congress about women's health issues qualify as political talk? Since when is telling a young woman to post sex videos on-line for his viewing enjoyment qualify as political talk? Since when does telling a young women who you do not agree with to shut up and shut your legs qualify as political talk?

This is not political talk. This is misogynistic HATE SPEECH.

It is not acceptable in a civilized society. It is destructive and undermines our political process.

The women of American can only assume that since you continue to promote this speech, you agree with it.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
7. They don't censor...? So EVERYONE gets a show on AFN?
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:49 PM
Mar 2012

Does al Qaeda get their own show? What a stupid illogical cop-out.

Have they cancelled shows in the past? Cancel this one. Why is it on there in the first place?

 

JSnuffy

(374 posts)
8. It's there because it is popular...
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:51 PM
Mar 2012

... and the ratings and surveys up to this point show that the audience wants him to be there.

That may change but the source of that change must be the US service member.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
11. I would appreciate a link
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 08:19 PM
Mar 2012

Would you be so kind to provide us with a link to the ratings and surveys you refer to? Thank you kindly.

 

JSnuffy

(374 posts)
12. I speak only from personal experience...
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 08:30 PM
Mar 2012

... having filled out those surveys.

Do you think that he would be on those stations even if he was unpopular or unwanted? Doesn't make much business or entertainment sense to me but I can see how you would be blinded by your emotions.

 

JSnuffy

(374 posts)
18. That implies that half of the population is alienated...
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:07 PM
Mar 2012

...

A more realistic number might be the usual 20% on either side of the spectrum with an apathetic 60% middle ground.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
21. DUh!
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:16 PM
Mar 2012

You probably don't realize the person you responded to was talking about the half of the population that is women.

Facts don't matter when you base your posts on emotion, now does it?

 

JSnuffy

(374 posts)
22. Duh yourself...
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:21 PM
Mar 2012

I was referring to the population as a whole because it is idiotic to assume that all women will now turn against Limbaugh.

If you think they will, wait a few weeks and let me know how it works out.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
23. i think we will know within a few weeks..
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:38 PM
Mar 2012

sponsors are dropping like flies. this fuckstain may have pushed the boundaries a little too far on this one.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
25. Guess you don't know many women, or framing
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 11:50 PM
Mar 2012

> was referring to the population as a whole because it is idiotic to assume that all women will now turn against Limbaugh.

I'll type this slowly so you understand.

Illegal Drug Addict called every woman who doesn't want to be barefoot & pregnant "a slut". That's the framing that is needed, since it is the truth. Illegal Drug Addict hates women, just like most of the Greedy Old Pedophile party. To them, women should be seen & not heard.

Unfortunately, Big Business owns 99% of the media, and thus this story will get buried as much as possible. Without Twitter & Facebook it probably would've "gone away" already.

 

JSnuffy

(374 posts)
28. So...
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 08:47 AM
Mar 2012

... basically you are saying I'm right.

They won't care because the story will fade and go away? That seems to summarize your last statement nicely.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
20. Blinded by emotions
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:15 PM
Mar 2012

I wonder what emotions OxyRush was suffering from when he went on his latest hate-fest?

 

JSnuffy

(374 posts)
27. Don't know much about that...
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 08:46 AM
Mar 2012
Do you think that he would be on those stations even if he was unpopular or unwanted? Doesn't make much business or entertainment sense to me but I can see how you would be blinded by your emotions.



It seems more like common sense to me. Maybe you could point out where the logic falls apart.

There is an answer and if you can't figure out I'd be glad to help you.

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
9. My message to them, the response, and my rebuttal
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 07:54 PM
Mar 2012
1. Rush Limbaugh is not a political figure. His followers insist that he is an entertainer and have repeatedly insisted on that designation.His show is straight entertainment according to his followers.

2. Rush Limbaugh has repeatedly denigrated and insulted half of the population of the United States with his misogynist views and opinions of women. This has gone beyond what is generally considered acceptable on the publicly owned airways.

3. Limbaugh is an admitted drug addict, not a good example for our troops. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh#Prescription_drug_addiction

4. Normal sane people do not go on diatribes accusing a young women whose only public exposure was to testify in front of Congress of being a slut or solicit pornographic videos from them.

5. Our armed forces have an acknowledged problem with rape in the ranks to the point that Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta has called it "the epidemic" of rape and sexual assaults in our armed forces. "In 2010, an estimated 19,000 service members were raped or sexually assaulted by other service members. Clearly, more resources devoted to counseling for victims and training for prosecutors and judges will help." http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/07/opinion/speier-military-rape/index.html

* 3,158 military sexual assaults were reported in fiscal year 2010, a decrease of 2% from fiscal year 2009. Only about a quarter of these sexual assaults occurred during deployment to a combat zone.
* While sexual assaults are notoriously under-reported, this problem is exacerbated in military settings. The Department of Defense (DOD) estimates that only 13.5% of survivors report the assault, and that in 2010 alone, over 19,000 sexual assaults occurred in the military.
* Approximately 55% of women and 38% of men report that their assailant sexually harassed or stalked them prior to the incident of rape or sexual assault.
* Prosecution rates for sexual predators are astoundingly low—in 2010, less than 21% of reported cases went to trial. Of these 529 alleged perpetrators who were prosecuted, only 53% were convicted while 41% were acquitted or had charges dismissed. An additional 6% were discharged or resigned in lieu of courts-martial (RILO), which effectively means the military allowed rapists quit their jobs in order to avoid facing charges.
http://servicewomen.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/R-SASH-Quick-Facts-081811.pdf

How much does Limbaugh contribute to an atmosphere that encourages rape in the military? If his attitudes are propagated among the military, it certainly cannot help reduce this problem.

Rush Limbaugh is not just offensive to half the American population, he is a danger to the capability and morale of our troops. "Entertainers" have been banned from the airways for fewer outrages than Limbaugh has created. Why should he be allowed on the air at all, much less being allowed to corrupt our armed forces?



Ms -

The American Forces Network does not censor content and we do not seek to protect our overseas Department of Defense audience from hearing views with which they may disagree. Our mission is to offer program choices, which includes both the one-hour versions and three-hour version of various popular political talk shows.

To review our radio services/schedules, please visit www.myafn.net.

Thanks for your support of the troops and for your interest in AFN.

BTW - As a service of the Department of Defense, AFN does not offer products for sale or sponsor any of the programs we relay to our audience.

Sincerely,

- Gene Frederickson
Affiliate Relations
AFN Broadcast Center
Riverside, CA



Mr. Frederickson,
Your canned reply in no way responds to my complaint about Mr. Limbaugh and his radio show. While I understand you may be getting numerous emails about his offensive comments, if you do not wish to respond to complaints, maybe you should assign someone to actually read the messages.

To reiterate my FIRST point:
Rush Limbaugh is not a political figure. His followers insist that he is an entertainer and have repeatedly insisted on that designation.His show is straight entertainment according to his followers.

Politics has nothing to do with my complaint. His blatantly offensive comments and promulgation of misogynist attitudes are the sole focus. As I indicated, these cannot be good for our armed forces since there is a serious problem with those attitudes already rampant.

This is a matter of the safety and security of the female members of the American military. Your dismissal of this point without acknowledgement is indicative of the problem.

I'll be sending copies of my communication with you to my Congress members and asking them to review the policies of AFN Broadcast Center.

Sincerely,


I'm copying the whole thing and over the weekend writing letters to send to ALL my Congress critters.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
14. i didn't pull any punches..
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 08:55 PM
Mar 2012

You, sir, and your entire outfit are cowards of the highest order. This is not an issue of censorship, but of common decency. I want you to think about the hateful words uttered by this filth when you go home to your wife. You go home, look her in the eye, and remember when Limbaugh called this woman a slut and a prostitute that he was demeaning ALL women, including your wife, daughter, mother, niece, etc. Good day.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
17. Just tell them he is a degenerate who talks about sex on the air
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:06 PM
Mar 2012

and ask them how that is good for our boys.

Seriously. They have no come back for that.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
19. Who funds them? Do we as taxpayers???? Anyone know???
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:11 PM
Mar 2012

Because if we are funding them, they better listen.

mucifer

(23,572 posts)
29. I have mixed feelings about getting him off AFR
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 09:07 AM
Mar 2012

I'm guessing he is popular and that many soldiers are entertained by his lunacy.
I think a lot of them could get very angry if he is taken off the air and he is popular.
I guess to me it seems that these men and women are risking their lives and they should be allowed to listen to him if they really want to.

Yes, I know he lies.
Yes, I know he is full of hate.

I just feel different about getting him off terrestrial radio then AFR.

You know they have the choice to put on Thom Hartmann. He is on AFR.

You know many of them sustain horrible brain injuries, mutilated limbs etc some don't even make it home.
I don't want to tell them they can't listen to their favorite radio personality.

Even tho he is full of s__t.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
30. it's not only that he denigrates women
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 11:30 AM
Mar 2012

but, how many jabs has he taken at the CIC. How many fabrications has he told against the CIC; and how many soldiers now disrespect the CIC. When bush was in office and started a bogus war, putting our troops in harms way; limpballs was all over himself espousing the greatness of his leader-but not this leader. And, when his hero screwed up royally, he always found a way to cover.

In my book, he encourages disrespect for the position and he disrespects women who are serving in the military. And, the guy is an irrational fabricating fool.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
32. Done.
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 12:36 PM
Mar 2012

I wrote I don't care what political party spokesman or woman they have on the air, just not hate radio. The troops don't need hate radio they get enough hate daily. Something like that to make it sound more impartial.

Gush is a hate monger and it is time for AFN to realize what harm that does.

SeattleVet

(5,480 posts)
33. AFN also have a Facebook page that accepts comments.
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 01:06 PM
Mar 2012
http://www.facebook.com/myAFN

They claim to want present diverse views. If I said any of the things about the Commander in Chief that Rush does on a daily basis I would have been severely disciplined.

The National Vanguard white supremacist group also has a radio show; will AFN start feeding that to the troops? If not, then they need to be asked why only *some* hate speech is allowed.

When I was stationed in Germany, we all knew that AFN was biased a certain way. We used to listen to Radio Moscow on shortwave, and knew that they were biased in the other direction. We figured that the truth was somewhere in between. But we *never* heard the type of hate that is allowed to be spewed on AFN by Rush Limbaugh.
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