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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:27 AM Oct 2013

President Obama’s Defeats May Turn Out to Be More Important Than His Likely Victory Over Republicans

(The Full Article is Positive about Democrats and Obama and Left Dems will find it a Good Read)


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Looking past the shutdown and budget battle, the big picture is that America's four decade-long drift to the right is decisively over
by Mark Weisbrot



My own view is that 2006 and 2008 marked the end of nearly four decades of rightward drift in the United States. This includes the Clinton administration, which abandoned its campaign promises and instead delivered Nafta, "welfare reform", and the WTO. Clinton's counter-reforms were masked by the longest-running economic expansion in US history, thanks to a stock market bubble and Alan Greenspan's change of policy that allowed the growth to continue after 1996. But Clinton did as much as a Republican administration could have done to continue the record-breaking upward redistribution of wealth and income (pdf) that has transformed America into a vastly more unjust society.

In a way, Obama's election in 2008 was similar to the election of left-of-center governments that has swept across Latin America, and especially South America, over the past 15 years. Those elections were driven primarily by the failure of neoliberal (conservative) economic policies. In Latin America, the failure manifested itself in an unprecedented collapse of economic growth (pdf) for more than 20 years; in the United States, there was growth, but the gains went mostly to the richest households, and culminated in the disaster of the Great Recession. But in both parts of the western hemisphere, the voters rejected these long-term neoliberal economic failures and wanted something different.

While the Latin American voters got a lot of what they voted for, including a vastly better foreign policy, we in the United States have been less successful. But that is beginning to change.

The Occupy Wall Street movement succeeded as no pundits or politicians had in the past, in placing inequality on the media and political agenda. And now, Bill de Blasio's success in the New York mayoral race, which he is leading by a large margin, is another indicator that social justice will be a serious electoral issue in the years to come.

Obama's defeats in the last month may well turn out to be a more important part of future political changes in this country than his likely victory over the Republicans in the current confrontation.

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Mark Weisbrot is Co-Director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research (CEPR), in Washington, DC. He is also president of Just Foreign Policy. He is co-author, with Dean Baker, of Social Security: The Phony Crisis. E-mail Mark: weisbrot@cepr.net[i/]

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/10/04-10
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President Obama’s Defeats May Turn Out to Be More Important Than His Likely Victory Over Republicans (Original Post) KoKo Oct 2013 OP
The guy sounds completely unaware of the TPP. dkf Oct 2013 #1
If you read the whole article I think he's setting up that KoKo Oct 2013 #5
Hard to push back when it's all secret. dkf Oct 2013 #7
It can be "Fast Tracked" so that just the Senate votes. KoKo Oct 2013 #11
Not sure the house will help other than giving time to build resistance. dkf Oct 2013 #12
"TPP: Corporate Power Tool of the 1%"...Public Citizen's Website KoKo Oct 2013 #19
I prefer the phrase "economic justice" to "social justice". DireStrike Oct 2013 #2
Just can't help yourself, huh? ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #3
This is a very positive article about Obama...You need to read it. KoKo Oct 2013 #8
What defeats? nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #4
Syria, Summers and the pushback on NSA. dkf Oct 2013 #9
How were those defeats? geek tragedy Oct 2013 #10
Obama was told before hand that they would be defeats. dkf Oct 2013 #13
Yes but to some addled folks.. sendero Oct 2013 #14
The chastisement of his party didn't stop him on Syria, a diplomatic breakthrough did. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #15
Lol. You're funny. dkf Oct 2013 #16
for an example, Obama was working on Syria Whisp Oct 2013 #17
You are funny too! dkf Oct 2013 #18
Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #23
You could read the article starroute Oct 2013 #20
Well that's just a stupid conclusion of the author. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #22
Nixon was the last liberal President, Obama the last conservative one Recursion Oct 2013 #6
A bit of a reach, but worth the read. bvar22 Oct 2013 #21

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
5. If you read the whole article I think he's setting up that
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:36 AM
Oct 2013

there is now push back--that the tide has turned in favor of the Left for Change who voted for him and were disappointed early on with his appointments. It was a hard article to snip and that's why I said the full article is worth a read.

If Left Dems can push back hard enough on TPP and the Fracking like we have on other issues then we will have dragged our Dem Party back from the Right.

Anyway...when you have time...check it out. I thought it was a positive read in these trying times.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
11. It can be "Fast Tracked" so that just the Senate votes.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:48 AM
Oct 2013

There are forces at work trying to stop the "Fast Track Authority" from being granted.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
12. Not sure the house will help other than giving time to build resistance.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:53 AM
Oct 2013

I'm not even sure how upset I should be since I don't understand it. The secrecy sure is suspicious though.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
19. "TPP: Corporate Power Tool of the 1%"...Public Citizen's Website
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:32 AM
Oct 2013

(Public Citizen's Website has the best info that I've found to explain. EFF has a website devoted to TPP, also)

TPP: Corporate Power Tool of the 1%

Have you heard? The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) “free trade” agreement is a stealthy policy being pressed by corporate America, a dream of the 1 percent, that in one blow could:

Offshore millions of American jobs

Free the banksters from oversight

Ban Buy America policies needed to create green jobs and rebuild our economy

Decrease access to medicine,

Flood the U.S. with unsafe food and products

Empower corporations to attack our environmental and health safeguards



MORE with VIDEOS and Explanations At:

http://www.citizen.org/TPP

DireStrike

(6,452 posts)
2. I prefer the phrase "economic justice" to "social justice".
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:30 AM
Oct 2013

It's more relateable and sounds less like social issues, which are often a distraction from economic issues.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
8. This is a very positive article about Obama...You need to read it.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:44 AM
Oct 2013

The votes for him were the vote for change and the change is looking positive if you are a Left Leaning Democrat.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. How were those defeats?
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:48 AM
Oct 2013

If Summers had been nominated and defeated, or if Congress had voted against him on Syria (or if diplomacy had failed), or if the NSA had been scaled back against his will, those would be defeats.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
13. Obama was told before hand that they would be defeats.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:55 AM
Oct 2013

He was saved from going through the chastisement of his party and he accepted it.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. The chastisement of his party didn't stop him on Syria, a diplomatic breakthrough did.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:06 AM
Oct 2013

And what has the chastisement of some Democrats done re: the NSA?

Summers might or might not have been nominated.

"Defeat" is a higher bar than "successfully lobbied."

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
17. for an example, Obama was working on Syria
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:20 AM
Oct 2013

for a long time.
DU was probably talking about frying chicken with corn flakes at the time and you want us to believe that it was the influence of you and the 'super left' two years ago or so that made Obama see the light? That guy, so stupid he never knows what he's doing without post-it notes from you.

you funny

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
23. Thank you ...
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 08:45 PM
Oct 2013

I guess the OP missed where the American left prevented President Obama from gathering up kittens into burlap bags and beating them to death with a baseball bat.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
20. You could read the article
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:36 AM
Oct 2013

It's actually in the first paragraph: "President Obama was twice defeated last month on matters of national and international importance, by grassroots opposition and resistance from within his own party. The first was over his planned bombing of Syria; the second was over his attempt to appoint Larry Summers as chair of the Federal Reserve."

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
22. Well that's just a stupid conclusion of the author.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 01:13 PM
Oct 2013

Republicans opposed involvement in Libya just as much, if not more, than Democrats.

Also, he's the one that decided to submit the matter to Congress.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
21. A bit of a reach, but worth the read.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:16 PM
Oct 2013

At least he is aware of what has happened (and IS happening) in Latin America.
That puts him ahead of the curve in the USA,
including our current Foreign Policy of demonizing these new Latin American.

DURec.


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