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MoonRiver

(36,926 posts) Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:02 AM Oct 2013

So Rethugs shut the gov. down to save money, but are going to give workers back pay

after they ALLOW the gov. to function again. Sounds like gov. workers are just getting a nice little paid vacation! Way to save money you stupid fools.

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So Rethugs shut the gov. down to save money, but are going to give workers back pay (Original Post) MoonRiver Oct 2013 OP

They will get retro pay, but not until the shutdown is over. lamp_shade Oct 2013 #1

I know, but how exactly is that helping the Thuglican goal (do they have a goal?) MoonRiver Oct 2013 #2

The ones still working will get back pay. The ones furloughed may or may not Recursion Oct 2013 #3

Why would they get less than expected if granted back pay? dkf Oct 2013 #5

Employees working have to get paid, eventually Recursion Oct 2013 #8

Well the house passed funding for backpay. dkf Oct 2013 #9

Good news, then Recursion Oct 2013 #10

I was furloughed back then. charlyvi Oct 2013 #12

And the shut down itself is costing $12.5million BlueToTheBone Oct 2013 #4

$12.5 million an hour. Now at $1.3 BILLION Coyotl Oct 2013 #6

Not all of them are on vacation. backscatter712 Oct 2013 #7

Only those working for the federal government. RC Oct 2013 #11

The House voted yesterday 407-0 to do just that madville Oct 2013 #13

This happens every shutdown nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #14

lamp_shade

(14,842 posts)

1. They will get retro pay, but not until the shutdown is over.

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:06 AM

Oct 2013

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)

2. I know, but how exactly is that helping the Thuglican goal (do they have a goal?)

Reply to lamp_shade (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:11 AM

Oct 2013

of saving money? Taxpayers will be spending billions for the shut down. Net effect: Thuglicans are costing, not saving, us money.

I'm glad workers will be getting back pay, btw. They did not cause or ask for any of this insanity.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)

3. The ones still working will get back pay. The ones furloughed may or may not

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:11 AM

Oct 2013

And probably won't get all of what they would have gotten.

But, yes, shutdowns usually end up costing more than keeping the government open that whole time.

dkf

(37,305 posts)

5. Why would they get less than expected if granted back pay?

Reply to Recursion (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:18 AM

Oct 2013

My buddy says his friend is pissed because he is an essential worker but is not getting paid. Therefore he had double work to make up for the non-essential guys that are probably getting back pay. The guy is steamed.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)

8. Employees working have to get paid, eventually

Reply to dkf (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:25 AM

Oct 2013

The furloughed employees in the 95-96 shutdown got IIRC 85% of what they would have made if they were working.

dkf

(37,305 posts)

9. Well the house passed funding for backpay.

Reply to Recursion (Reply #8)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:27 AM

Oct 2013

Seems to be at 100%.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)

10. Good news, then

Reply to dkf (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:27 AM

Oct 2013

There was nothing requiring them to do that, and they didn't do it at 100% last time.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)

12. I was furloughed back then.

Reply to Recursion (Reply #8)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:40 PM

Oct 2013

Got 100% of my pay.

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)

4. And the shut down itself is costing $12.5million

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:16 AM

Oct 2013

a day. Could be costly.

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)

6. $12.5 million an hour. Now at $1.3 BILLION

Reply to BlueToTheBone (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:20 AM

Oct 2013

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023783283

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)

7. Not all of them are on vacation.

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:20 AM

Oct 2013

Police officers and the like are working without pay, hoping that the ever-so-benevolent GOP will vote to give them back-pay when the shutdown is over.

RC

(25,592 posts)

11. Only those working for the federal government.

Reply to backscatter712 (Reply #7)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:38 AM

Oct 2013

Most police officers work for the city, county or other municipalities.

madville

(7,412 posts)

13. The House voted yesterday 407-0 to do just that

Reply to backscatter712 (Reply #7)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:52 PM

Oct 2013

The Senate was expected to pass it and the President said he supported it so we don;t have to worry about that. It included paying the furloughed employees back pay as well. I have been furloughed since Tuesday and will get paid for it once this is all over at least.

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)

14. This happens every shutdown

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:54 PM

Oct 2013

With great show, and it should. It's not the workers fault. For the record, my sis works at a Navy Hospital. She is considered essential, and has been working since Monday without pay.

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