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I dont think that the government should be involved in health care or health insurance, says Greg Collett, a 41-year-old software developer in Caldwell, Idaho, who would rather pay the fine for now -- $95 the first year -- than signup.
I calculated it out and it is cheaper for me for the next four years to pay the fine rather than get coverage, Collett said. At some point where it would make financial sense to pay for insurance rather than pay fines, I will make the decision from a financial standpoint.
Collett, who is married and has 10 children, says the kids are covered by Medicaid, the joint state-federal health insurance plan for people with low income and children who are not covered.
But its absolutely not okay, that they are, Collett says quickly. There are a lot of people out there thatll cry foul."
Collett, whose children are home-schooled, likens taking Medicaid to sending children to public school. He also does not approve of government-funded public schools. The government is taking your money. They are spending it on things they shouldnt be, he says. Trying to get whatever you can back -- I have nothing against that. You have to at some point try and get your tax dollars back.
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care-holdouts-uninsured-resisting-obamacare-8C11338371
JustAnotherGen
(31,902 posts)And a hypocrite.
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)Skinner
(63,645 posts)Last edited Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:25 PM - Edit history (1)
The Magistrate
(95,255 posts)He cannot possibly be paying an amount in taxes that would be a patch on what the government pays into the pool on their behalf, even f they remain healthy, let alone what the cost of any real medical episode would be.
By his own standards, the man is a leech and a mooch, a standing example of what is wrong with this country: no U.S. or Colorado tax-payer should have to pay for his kids, that is just not something government should be doing....
Skinner
(63,645 posts)Not sure how that works, but he said it.
The Magistrate
(95,255 posts)It is doubtless a state 'insure the kids' program, which allows people over the poverty line in some degree to qualify, and poverty line is always calculated on a 'number in household' basis. But even with that number of children, his income could not be very high, and so the tax he pays will be exceeded by the costs to the program of his children's insurance.
rdking647
(5,113 posts)i wish the hospital would just refuse to treat him....(i know they cant but....)
maybe rush limpdick could pay for his treatment
surrealAmerican
(11,364 posts)... and they'll charge him for it too. Then he and his wife and ten children will be homeless. I wonder if he'd still think it made economic sense to pay the fine instead of getting insurance then.
CanonRay
(14,118 posts)Idaho is full of them.
treestar
(82,383 posts)He should be against Medicaid, period. What an illogical excuse.
texanwitch
(18,705 posts)Stupid and they don't give a damn about anybody else.
I just wonder now how many are going to miss their government aid now.
This guys 10 kids might loose their medicare now.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Fuck's sake!! And he's homeschooling his brood to be just as ignorant as he is!! I vote for birth control in their water.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)...meaning that he himself is offered "affordable" coverage from his employer; therefore, his children cannot participate in the exchanges no matter the cost of their employer-based coverage. Buying insurance for that many kids could easily run someone 50% of their income. But if that were the case, he would be exempted from the penalties.
Unless this story is about declining "affordable" insurance for just himself while keeping the kids on Medicaid. In that case, he's just a moocher and we'll all be paying for his ER care. Thankfully the state has made better choices for his children and they're covered.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)Is a set premium whether you have 1 kid or 7. That is my understanding.
I'm wondering if this guy is working as independent consultant. Otherwise, why not get the company's coverage for himself since it is a good "financial" decision to make for most sane people.
This guy is such a turd.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)This is particularly true if you're not under a group plan and are buying as an individual, which is what I'm supposing this guy is doing.
My family was recently under such a plan, until my employer decided to offer insurance. Each of us was a separate charge. There was no "family" option.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)That is part of what makes it a public school though not all of it.
Ten cents says the guy complaining is a Mormon which may account for his attitude. There are lots and lots of them in Idaho.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)The ACA says that having insurance is optional, provided you pay a tax. He is choosing to pay the tax instead, which is his choice.
Nine
(1,741 posts)He might eventually sign up for health insurance on an exchange, or Medicare when he gets old enough. I am not a martyr. Ill have to deal with it and maybe Ill be forced to get on the bandwagon and say fine, he said.
Dumbass acts like he's doing the rest of us a favor. All he's saying is that he doesn't want to pay now while he's youngish and healthy, but when he's older or gets sick or injured, that's when he'll (reluctantly) join the rest of us sheeple "on the bandwagon" and get the free healthcare he didn't want to contribute to. Arrogant, entitled prick.
ETA - Travis, I agree with you in essence. I don't begrudge anyone paying the alternative tax penalty or even qualifying for exemptions. It's just the attitudes these creeps have. They always see themselves as the givers and others as the takers, no matter how out of sync that is with reality.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Medical care, but my kids are on Medicaid, a government run program. I am reminded of the elderly at a tea party rally, keep the Government out of my Medicare and social security.
Head hurts