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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy niece is insisting Obama is closing state parks
Is there something out there telling her this? and I am trying to refute her but I'm having trouble doing so. She is young only 21 and she is buying into this republican crap, don't get it.
dennis4868
(9,774 posts)Fox News?
spanone
(135,900 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)And that Obama is in fact President and not the governor of the state in question?
ebbie15644
(1,216 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Decaffeinated
(556 posts)... and damaging the relationship?
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)I think discouraging ignorance is a form of love.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)Siwsan
(26,308 posts)Shortly after she realized that her old Auntie actually knew what she was talking about and now my niece is an ardent liberal and Democrat. So, don't give up hope.
ebbie15644
(1,216 posts)This area is extremely republican and very NRA. East of Pittsburgh PA. I think she is with a group of people that just hate President Obama and she is listening to these right wing web sites and nothing I say is going to make a difference.
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tosh
(4,424 posts)pet-sits for me.
She hates Obama but hated Bush & Cheney, too. Also, she apparently never took a CIVICS class - or geography for that matter!!
It is depressing to me to expose myself to this. I have to remind myself that she came from less fortunate circumstances than I did. I think the education system failed her badly.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)had been totally on state and federal assistance since the 2008 downturn. I admired her honesty, not many people are willing to talk about their financial circumstances to a total stranger. The thing that floored me was how she blamed Democrats for her dire circumstances, I couldn't fucking believe that. There are some truly ignorant people out there.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)ebbie15644
(1,216 posts)on welfare and medicaid growing up. It must be self-shame.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)saying it fast will blow right through her ears.
JHB
(37,163 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Mock her.
Ask if she's still on her parents Health care plan.
Ask her to name the President, the Speaker of the House, Senate Majority leader, and 4 Supreme Court justices.
Ask her if she prefers the ACA to ObamaCare.
Ask her if the stock market has doubled since Obama took office.
Ask her if UE is lower now, or on the day Obama took office.
postulater
(5,075 posts)TalkingPointsMemo has the scoop on how this played out.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/scott-walker-resists-federal-order-to-close-parks-during-shutdownd out.
Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)if each State decides to do so. I just spent the weekend at Tomales Bay & Mt. Tam States parks here in CA after being turned away at national park Pt. Reyes.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)When the white people are rounded up, what better place to be housed than a park
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nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Where private organizations that manage facilities in the federal system, are getting shut down. Mind you, they are on federal land.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)People have a tendency to lose the deeply-held views they just decided they possess when faced with a financial penalty for being wrong. I know you won't offer a wager to a relative, but it was a fun thought for a moment.
elleng
(131,196 posts)learned to read, learned about the 3 branches of government, including which one holds the purse strings.
Caretha
(2,737 posts)to shut up and sit down...she is only 21 and probably never paid attention in her life. There are times for patience, and then there are times for truth is "what's for dinner".
gulliver
(13,197 posts)Just a guess.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)gulliver
(13,197 posts)Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)Maybe she's a lesbian? Assexual? Single? Maybe she's dating a man and her belief has absolutely nothing to do with him.
I don't like the pseudo-wise musings on the man/woman intellectual dichotomy.
ebbie15644
(1,216 posts)lpbk2713
(42,769 posts)Take your pick.
Turbineguy
(37,374 posts)her hair dryer.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)Based on my experience with such people, no matter what "reality-based" information you give her, it will make no difference. But perhaps your results will vary.
rickford66
(5,530 posts)Our state park here (upstate NY) shuts down for the Winter. You can drive through, but there's nothing to do but sleigh ride if there's snow.
Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)It's the Congress and the Republicans that are responsible for the shutdown.
Period.
No executive orders to the DNR from him at all. Last Executive Order kept his advisory committee members in service so he would still be able to work.