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ebbie15644

(1,216 posts)
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:27 PM Oct 2013

My niece is insisting Obama is closing state parks

Is there something out there telling her this? and I am trying to refute her but I'm having trouble doing so. She is young only 21 and she is buying into this republican crap, don't get it.

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My niece is insisting Obama is closing state parks (Original Post) ebbie15644 Oct 2013 OP
Does she watch dennis4868 Oct 2013 #1
she should get help. spanone Oct 2013 #2
Would pointing out the fact that they are "state" parks help? lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #3
I pointed this out to her but I feel like she is "humoring" me,lol ebbie15644 Oct 2013 #7
Then point and laugh. A mean kind of laugh. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #8
Is a stupid argument worth demeaning a family member... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #30
ymmv lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #31
. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #37
Tell her I just hiked for two days in Camden Hills State Park in Maine. HERVEPA Oct 2013 #4
My niece listened to republicans in 2004 and nothing I said made a dent Siwsan Oct 2013 #5
I wish I could believe she will change ebbie15644 Oct 2013 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Atman Oct 2013 #6
So is the friend who tosh Oct 2013 #9
I ran across a woman several months ago who had just gotten a minimum wage job but bluestate10 Oct 2013 #17
"Idiocracy" has taken a strong foothold in the NEW USA. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2013 #29
I did tell my niece to take some classes on how government worked. She too has relied ebbie15644 Oct 2013 #35
Maybe you should explain that "state" parks are funded by states. But say it to her slowly because bluestate10 Oct 2013 #10
Give her the stare... JHB Oct 2013 #11
Tell her ObamaCare covers the affliction that causes her to think that. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #12
There are some state parks that also receive state funding in Wisconsin. postulater Oct 2013 #13
State Parks will only be effected - Hell Hath No Fury Oct 2013 #14
he's gotta put the FEMA camps somewhere NightWatcher Oct 2013 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Oct 2013 #16
She must be reading things like this nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #18
Tell her you're ready to wager $5000 on the question. Ask if she' steady for the same. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2013 #19
Remind her about when she was in school, elleng Oct 2013 #20
Tell her Caretha Oct 2013 #21
She should drop her idiot Republican boyfriend. gulliver Oct 2013 #22
Yes, because women are just the intellectual playthings of men. Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #23
I disagree. nt gulliver Oct 2013 #25
My post was a commentary on the tendency to always attach a woman to a man. Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #27
That's my thoughts too! ebbie15644 Oct 2013 #36
Limbaugh, Beck or Hannity lpbk2713 Oct 2013 #24
Tell her Obama also shut off Turbineguy Oct 2013 #26
I'm sorry, but your niece is a willfully ill-informed moron deutsey Oct 2013 #28
probably the normal autumn closings rickford66 Oct 2013 #32
IF it is the SHUTDOWN doing this, then it isn't Obama. No one gave him a bill to sign or VETO. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #33
 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
3. Would pointing out the fact that they are "state" parks help?
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:29 PM
Oct 2013

And that Obama is in fact President and not the governor of the state in question?

Siwsan

(26,308 posts)
5. My niece listened to republicans in 2004 and nothing I said made a dent
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:31 PM
Oct 2013

Shortly after she realized that her old Auntie actually knew what she was talking about and now my niece is an ardent liberal and Democrat. So, don't give up hope.

ebbie15644

(1,216 posts)
34. I wish I could believe she will change
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 10:42 AM
Oct 2013

This area is extremely republican and very NRA. East of Pittsburgh PA. I think she is with a group of people that just hate President Obama and she is listening to these right wing web sites and nothing I say is going to make a difference.

Response to ebbie15644 (Original post)

tosh

(4,424 posts)
9. So is the friend who
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:37 PM
Oct 2013

pet-sits for me.

She hates Obama but hated Bush & Cheney, too. Also, she apparently never took a CIVICS class - or geography for that matter!!

It is depressing to me to expose myself to this. I have to remind myself that she came from less fortunate circumstances than I did. I think the education system failed her badly.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
17. I ran across a woman several months ago who had just gotten a minimum wage job but
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:45 PM
Oct 2013

had been totally on state and federal assistance since the 2008 downturn. I admired her honesty, not many people are willing to talk about their financial circumstances to a total stranger. The thing that floored me was how she blamed Democrats for her dire circumstances, I couldn't fucking believe that. There are some truly ignorant people out there.

ebbie15644

(1,216 posts)
35. I did tell my niece to take some classes on how government worked. She too has relied
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 10:43 AM
Oct 2013

on welfare and medicaid growing up. It must be self-shame.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
10. Maybe you should explain that "state" parks are funded by states. But say it to her slowly because
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:37 PM
Oct 2013

saying it fast will blow right through her ears.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
12. Tell her ObamaCare covers the affliction that causes her to think that.
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:41 PM
Oct 2013

Mock her.

Ask if she's still on her parents Health care plan.

Ask her to name the President, the Speaker of the House, Senate Majority leader, and 4 Supreme Court justices.

Ask her if she prefers the ACA to ObamaCare.

Ask her if the stock market has doubled since Obama took office.

Ask her if UE is lower now, or on the day Obama took office.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
14. State Parks will only be effected -
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:43 PM
Oct 2013

if each State decides to do so. I just spent the weekend at Tomales Bay & Mt. Tam States parks here in CA after being turned away at national park Pt. Reyes.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
15. he's gotta put the FEMA camps somewhere
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:43 PM
Oct 2013

When the white people are rounded up, what better place to be housed than a park

Response to ebbie15644 (Original post)

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
18. She must be reading things like this
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:46 PM
Oct 2013
http://freebeacon.com/shutdown-theater/

Where private organizations that manage facilities in the federal system, are getting shut down. Mind you, they are on federal land.
 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
19. Tell her you're ready to wager $5000 on the question. Ask if she' steady for the same.
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:49 PM
Oct 2013

People have a tendency to lose the deeply-held views they just decided they possess when faced with a financial penalty for being wrong. I know you won't offer a wager to a relative, but it was a fun thought for a moment.

elleng

(131,196 posts)
20. Remind her about when she was in school,
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:53 PM
Oct 2013

learned to read, learned about the 3 branches of government, including which one holds the purse strings.

 

Caretha

(2,737 posts)
21. Tell her
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 09:14 PM
Oct 2013

to shut up and sit down...she is only 21 and probably never paid attention in her life. There are times for patience, and then there are times for truth is "what's for dinner".

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
27. My post was a commentary on the tendency to always attach a woman to a man.
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 09:29 PM
Oct 2013

Maybe she's a lesbian? Assexual? Single? Maybe she's dating a man and her belief has absolutely nothing to do with him.

I don't like the pseudo-wise musings on the man/woman intellectual dichotomy.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
28. I'm sorry, but your niece is a willfully ill-informed moron
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 09:30 PM
Oct 2013

Based on my experience with such people, no matter what "reality-based" information you give her, it will make no difference. But perhaps your results will vary.

rickford66

(5,530 posts)
32. probably the normal autumn closings
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 09:42 PM
Oct 2013

Our state park here (upstate NY) shuts down for the Winter. You can drive through, but there's nothing to do but sleigh ride if there's snow.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
33. IF it is the SHUTDOWN doing this, then it isn't Obama. No one gave him a bill to sign or VETO.
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 09:42 PM
Oct 2013

It's the Congress and the Republicans that are responsible for the shutdown.

Period.

No executive orders to the DNR from him at all. Last Executive Order kept his advisory committee members in service so he would still be able to work.

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