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pnwmom

(109,000 posts) Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:24 PM Oct 2013

Either Britain's Telegraph got this really really wrong --

or I did. Was Romney talking about raising the debt ceiling or shutting down the government?

Did I miss this somehow? Has the government been shut down over and over again?

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100240493/mitt-romney-looks-more-presidential-than-the-president-urging-obama-to-end-his-campaigning-and-posturing/

Romney took Obama to task over his deeply partisan and at times petty handling of the shutdown issue, reminding him that the federal government was closed down eight times under Ronald Reagan by a Democrat-controlled House of Representatives, and five times under Jimmy Carter, again by a Democrat-controlled House.

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Either Britain's Telegraph got this really really wrong -- (Original Post) pnwmom Oct 2013 OP

It has been shut down - Hell Hath No Fury Oct 2013 #1

uhhh... WTF? Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #2

Covered in a previous thread: JHB Oct 2013 #3

Thanks! n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #4

From wikipedia - DURHAM D Oct 2013 #5

Thanks! n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #7

There have been shutdowns, but with the exception of the current shutdown and the Clinton era bluestate10 Oct 2013 #6

Thanks for the succinct summary! nt pnwmom Oct 2013 #8

Opinion from RW Teaparty hack not the "Telegraph" grantcart Oct 2013 #9

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)

1. It has been shut down -

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:27 PM

Oct 2013

in the past, but it was generally a couple of days at most, and often on weekends. It was Newt who introduced the insane shutdown.

Ohio Joe

(21,768 posts)

2. uhhh... WTF?

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:29 PM

Oct 2013

There is so much that is just plain wrong in that article, I don't know where to begin so... I'll just say it's complete bullshit from start to finish.

JHB

(37,163 posts)

3. Covered in a previous thread:

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:30 PM

Oct 2013

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3760888

pnwmom

(109,000 posts)

4. Thanks! n/t

Reply to JHB (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:32 PM

Oct 2013

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)

5. From wikipedia -

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:32 PM

Oct 2013

During the Ford and Carter administrations, funding gaps caused 6 partial shutdowns that affected only the departments of Labor and Health, Education, and Welfare. These lasted from 8 to 18 days and the primary issue of dispute was federal funding for abortion. During the Reagan administration, there were 8 funding gaps with technical shutdowns lasting less than 48 hours or over weekends while spending measures were negotiated. A funding gap during the George H. W. Bush administration also caused a weekend shutdown, resolved late the following Monday.

ETA: From the comments it appears that the guy who wrote that article is on the payroll of the Heritage Foundation.

pnwmom

(109,000 posts)

7. Thanks! n/t

Reply to DURHAM D (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:33 PM

Oct 2013

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)

6. There have been shutdowns, but with the exception of the current shutdown and the Clinton era

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:33 PM

Oct 2013

shutdown, previous shutdowns have affected just one Department or happened on days when few citizens needed to access government services. The only real and damaging shutdowns have been TWO, both by republicans in attempts to extort concessions from Democrat Presidents.

pnwmom

(109,000 posts)

8. Thanks for the succinct summary! nt

Reply to bluestate10 (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:34 PM

Oct 2013

grantcart

(53,061 posts)

9. Opinion from RW Teaparty hack not the "Telegraph"

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:35 PM

Oct 2013

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nile_Gardiner

Do we need to publish every single one of these POS RW opinion pieces?

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