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http://www.alternet.org/nsa-isnt-foiling-terrorist-plotsThe National Security Agency (NSA) is shown on May 31, 2006 in Fort Meade, Maryland, a suburb of Washington, DC.
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Who Stops Terrorism?
Contrary to what one would expect given the secretive nature of intelligence operations, we actually know quite a bit about how terrorist plots in the United States and Europe are foiled. Several attacks, for instance, were discovered after law enforcement agencies picked up on suspicious (non-digital) behaviors of the plotters. Samir Azzouz, the most prolific jihadist terrorist in the Netherlands, attracted the attention of the Dutch secret service when he tried to travel to Chechnya to join the jihad against the Russians.
Other plotters gave themselves away by associating with known terrorists. For instance, a 2009 plot to attack the New York Stock Exchange came to light after one of the perpetrators contacted a Yemeni extremist who was under FBI surveillance. The plans of Mohamed Osman Mohamud, who was arrested just before he could execute his attack against a Christmas tree-lighting ceremony in Portland, were detected in a similar manner. The FBI started following Mohamud after he e-mailed a known terrorist recruiter. Since the FBI does not have mass digital surveillance capabilities, the person Mohamud contacted was likely already under surveillance.
Najibullah Zazis plans for an attack against the New York subway were thwarted this way, too. British intelligence informed their U.S. counterparts that Zazi had had e-mail contact with a Pakistani radical who was being watched for involvement in a British terror plot. A fourth example involves Abdullah Ahmed Ali, the ringleader of the cell that prepared the liquid bomb attacks against transatlantic flights in 2006. He first came to the attention of MI5 after he was seen interacting with known radicals.
In other cases, the police uncovered terrorist activities after having arrested the perpetrators for unrelated crimes. A cell in London, for instance, attracted the attention of the police after its involvement in skirmishes with right-wing extremist youths. A more bizarre example concerns Ahmed Ferhani, who, apparently deeply enraged after an arrest for petty crime, told the police about his ambition to join the jihad. Several months later, he was arrested for planning an attack against a New York synagogue.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)It does not follow logically to conclude that the NSA "is not" stopping terrorists plots (which is what the title says) because sometimes, a plot is stopped by other means (which is what the article talks about).
The author could claim that the NSA doesn't stop them all.
The author could claim that other means are often used.
The author could even attempt to claim that the NSA does not stop most (although the article isn't even strong enough to make that claim).
But the author can't claim that the NSA doesn't stop terrorists plots.
djean111
(14,255 posts)for various agencies to winnow through it at leisure, after an incident or in order to construct an evidence chain which then needs to be somehow made legal, since no warrant was obtained.
Basically, seems to me, its theme song should be "Every Breath You Take", by (irony dripping) the Police.
Every move you make.......license plates are recorded at events, at intersections with cameras, on toll roads - the way surveillance has been busily creeping around is remarkable.
Just think how valuable a Google van drive-by might be, in some cases - infinitesimally unlikely to be useful, but this stuff adds up as it is cross-referenced.