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From this NYTimes article posted about earlier it was reported that the Republicans are coming up with all kinds of ideas *cough* ~ "Were more in the ideas stage right now..." and that There is a developing consensus that this is a lot bigger than an Obamacare discussion.
On that note, this piece from today's NPR's Morning Edition made me cringe. Listen at the link below to get the full gist of what these guys are saying. It's very scary. This Congressman from Florida, Yoho, says: "I feel in my heart this is the right thing..." as the narrator concludes that he believes a default will actually stabilize the world markets.
For weeks, economists and bankers have been warning that there will be catastrophic consequences if Congress fails raise the nation's borrowing limit.
They say it will mean the nation will default on its debt, which could rock U.S. and global markets. The Treasury has warned that it will exhaust the "extraordinary measures" it has been using to keep paying the nation's bills by Oct. 17.
"To actually permit default, according to many CEOs and economists, would be and I'm quoting here 'insane,' 'catastrophic,' 'chaos,' " President Obama has said. "These are some of the more polite words. Warren Buffett likened default to a nuclear bomb."
But to a small group of Republicans in Congress, these warnings are just a lot of hype. They believe the country will not default, even if the debt ceiling is breached, and all the fuss about the debt limit is just fear-mongering.
"To suggest that we can't pay our debts that's absolutely not true," says Rep. Phil Gingrey of Georgia.
The Republicans in this group have different theories about why the country is not going to default, but the conclusion is the same: Let Oct. 17 come and go without raising the debt ceiling, and America's going to be A-OK.
~snip~
Joe Barton of Texas (...) says the U.S. can prioritize certain payments and skip payments on less important things.
"You know, paying the travel expenses of the secretary of commerce, maybe we will only pay 50 percent of that next month or National Labor Relations Board, or some of the discretionary items that we can postpone," he says. "You know, it can be managed."
~snip~
And that takes us to another theory. Rep. Ted Yoho of Florida says as long as the United States keeps paying all the interest on its debt meaning, as long as U.S. bondholders get paid the nation's technically not defaulting.
"Default is not being able to service your debt," he says. "We've got plenty of money coming in on a monthly basis to service our debt."
http://www.npr.org/2013/10/10/231199878/gop-group-warns-debt-limit-fuss-is-a-lot-of-hype
sakabatou
(42,177 posts)Turbineguy
(37,372 posts)And trying to run the country.
Emit
(11,213 posts)lol
spanone
(135,887 posts)Skittles
(153,202 posts)F*** THEM!!!!
louis-t
(23,297 posts)they know how screwed they would be if they let it happen and will never let it happen.
Emit
(11,213 posts)definitely wanting and making every effort to make it happen!
Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)Virtually every time,over the past three-four decades,and we all made out like bandits,especially with that awesome trickle down thing,I'm quite happy to take their word at face value now.Yeah.Right.
Just in case
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Your credit rating goes down. That means the next time you go to borrow the interest rate will be higher. Adding higher interest to your other payments means your spending has to increase.
So anyone who says defaulting is good for you is stupid. If you are selling bonds to raise money the buyers will want deeper discounts meaning your cost of money increased. Since the US would default then we could no longer say that US bonds have little risk. Higher risk debt costs more.
It isn't rocker science.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,234 posts)They probably agree with Michelle Bachman that the end times are near and want to hasten their arrival.
bhikkhu
(10,724 posts)...for other countries. China, Brazil, India, etc, would reap the benefits, once the chaos was smoothed over. Meanwhile, the US would slide toward ignominious third-world status, which the GOP and the tea party are apparently more comfortable with.
A bit of history on how Argentina's default (the only remotely comparable modern example): http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/24/business/global/24peso.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0