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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 11:36 AM Oct 2013

Repubs will hold out for a few more days in hopes of a Democratic fold...

They understand that, at the last minute, the Democrats will throw them a life raft. Because Democrats love government more than they do.

The President and Harry Reid need to understand the psychology of John Boehner and Mitch McConnell at this crucial time in the "negotiations". The Democrats, according to all the polls, show that the Democrats have the upper hand in this battle. There is no need to surrender anything else to the Republicans.

Also, they love their 3-day weekends. Today is a very important day in resolving this shutdown. Today is not the day to compromise with the extremists that shut down our government. They made their bed so let them sleep in it.

With that said, there is no indication that the President or the Democrats are going to fold on their stand. They need to know that we stand behind them on this issue.

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Repubs will hold out for a few more days in hopes of a Democratic fold... (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2013 OP
Fuck them. Let them rot. jsr Oct 2013 #1
Not sure how republicans can save face by holding out even for B Calm Oct 2013 #2
They believe they have a psychological profile of Barack Obama... kentuck Oct 2013 #4
I know they believe he will fold, but I think he has surprised B Calm Oct 2013 #6
I think you are right. kentuck Oct 2013 #8
Exactly. HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #5
I predicted this will be resolved very shortly quinnox Oct 2013 #3
They're offering shit on a stick BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #7
What kind of life raft are you talking about? pnwmom Oct 2013 #9
Yes. kentuck Oct 2013 #10
None at all. TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #11
They deserve none at all but... kentuck Oct 2013 #12
It's early yet -- the real date appears to be November 1 FarCenter Oct 2013 #13
 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
2. Not sure how republicans can save face by holding out even for
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 11:41 AM
Oct 2013

just a few more days. Everyday that goes by, they drop more and more in the polls and Obama knows it, so why would we give them anything!

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
6. I know they believe he will fold, but I think he has surprised
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 11:46 AM
Oct 2013

the hell out of them up to this point.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
8. I think you are right.
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 11:54 AM
Oct 2013

They failed to factor in the different circumstances. He is not facing another election. This is not 2011.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
5. Exactly.
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 11:45 AM
Oct 2013

Give in to the extortionists demands, even a face-saving gesture, and they will only be emboldened. Hold out for unconditional surrender....GOP jumped off the cliff of their own volition, no reason to give them a lifeline.

pnwmom

(109,011 posts)
9. What kind of life raft are you talking about?
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 11:55 AM
Oct 2013

One that would be a concession or one that wouldn't be?

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
10. Yes.
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 11:57 AM
Oct 2013

As one Tea Party Congressman said the other day, "We have to get something out of this..."

My guess is that they will get some type of concession.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
12. They deserve none at all but...
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 12:01 PM
Oct 2013

... they will probably get either the rollback on the medical tools tax or the Keystone Pipeline. I hope not.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
13. It's early yet -- the real date appears to be November 1
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 12:03 PM
Oct 2013

Due to the partial shutdown, the government's cash burn has slowed and it won't default until a large payment comes due November 1.

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