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SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 07:21 PM Oct 2013

In any discussion about poverty, food stamps are always front & center, BUT

The real issues are:

housing and wages

Take this example:

$10hr for a 30 hr week (before taxes& wh) comes out to $300 a week (most low wage workers cannot even GET 30 hrs a week)

In MOST places in the US, a "decent" apartment probably costs $500 (minimum) per month..

That comes out to 42% of GROSS income

If a senator makes $175k a year that 42% comes to $6125.00 per month.. I wonder how many of them pay that much rent/mortgage out of their own pockets..

Some of the teapartiers sleep in their offices & shower at the congressional gym because they say rents are too high for them..

If you have to spend 42% of your GROSS income, and you still have to pay for transportation, child care, medical care, utilities and all the other necessities of life, you WILL come up short in the food department.

Your other expenses, while not necessarily "fixed", are pretty inflexible..and the ONLY place in a budget that has some wiggle room, is food ..

Poor people will always be with us as long as we (as a society) limit their access to upward mobility, so we have 4 choices:

pay them enough to live on
subsidize their housing so they can afford to pay rent
give them food or money to buy food
kill them

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In any discussion about poverty, food stamps are always front & center, BUT (Original Post) SoCalDem Oct 2013 OP
GOP Favors The 4th Option Only Not Directly. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2013 #1
The minimum wage is much too low. surrealAmerican Oct 2013 #2
Traditionally, the "poorer" ones have shared apartments SoCalDem Oct 2013 #3
too poor to be congresspeople? reddread Oct 2013 #4
sorry.. SoCalDem Oct 2013 #5
but most of the officially counted poor are NOT working $10 an hour jobs hfojvt Oct 2013 #6

surrealAmerican

(11,365 posts)
2. The minimum wage is much too low.
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 07:32 PM
Oct 2013

It should probably be indexed to the cost of living.

The issue with congresspeople sleeping in their offices is not that they can't afford a home - it's that they can't afford two homes. They all have residences in their districts.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
3. Traditionally, the "poorer" ones have shared apartments
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 07:52 PM
Oct 2013

This crew delights in showing off their "down-home-ness" and wear their pretentious "poverty" like a badge of honor.. They delight in bending the rules and bragging about it.

If they are too poor to be congresspeople, perhaps they should have reconsidered running for office.... or make a few friends who want to share a place with them

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
4. too poor to be congresspeople?
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 08:16 PM
Oct 2013

can you defend that statement? whats the income line for acceptable representatives?

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
6. but most of the officially counted poor are NOT working $10 an hour jobs
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 11:45 PM
Oct 2013

Not unless they have lots of kids. $10 an hour at 30 hours a week is $15,600 a year. And the poverty line of one person with one child is $15,510. Also a single person with one child making $15,600 a year gets an EIC of $3,169 and perhaps a refundable child tax credit.

Also, I probably cannot get labor force statistics now because of the shut down, but I thought most of the labor force was full time workers.

I hate to even think about rent. The sensible thing to do is buy a home, but housing costs are absurd in some places too. When I was renting though, way back in pre-1991, I always managed to find affordable rent. Although once I had a roommate - a guy I offered to move in with so he could afford to bring his family from India.

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