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Anyone watching? I pulled out last week (IRA)... Hope Im wrong.........
But right now I think its 50/50..
Warpy
(111,367 posts)Thanks a lot, you teabagger putzes.
I can't pull out, I can think of any place the boodle would be particularly safe.
elleng
(131,176 posts)Warpy
(111,367 posts)If we default, it's not going to last long before the 12 teabaggers are being burned in effigy outside the Capitol building.
Those morons have no idea in the world just what they're playing with.
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)
the Tea-liban could cave and agree to an extension and clean CR within a day or two after default -- and it would still be too late. The damage will already be irreversible, and guaranteed to remain for the long term.
elleng
(131,176 posts)Will see where we go. Hope managers of my funds do the right things, and my federal soc sec, pension, and annuities survive.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)My opinion (highly uneducated) If you stay in, stay in all the way. So many pull out and never see the recovery.
There will be a recovery... I have faith in our country..
Warpy
(111,367 posts)but most people panic and end up selling low and then rebuying at a higher price. That keeps brokers in hand tailored suits even when the game hasn't been as rigged as it is now.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Especially if one is retired and on S.S...Panic is a natural reflex..
elleng
(131,176 posts)but people really need to think before they do any leaping, market-wise, and they/we can, take time, study and watch the way things move.
Certainly S.S. will 'recover,' at the very least. Someone here mentioned that if/when seniors, who tend to vote repug, fail to receive their payments, congresscritters will start hearing from them, and will respond accordingly.
elleng
(131,176 posts)likely slower than the one we've experienced so far.
IF folks will recall what these f*****s are putting us through, we'll get a decent congress in '14, and then we'll be able to move and recover.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)But there will be a recovery!!!
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)
default could lead to a global slowdown lasting a generation. In other words, think "Great Depression," but lasting twice as long.
elleng
(131,176 posts)You are set! I've only known a few people that have SS + pension + annuities.
elleng
(131,176 posts)for all these 'benefits.' Annuities due to husband's death, otherwise fed govt pension and ss. Had been looking OK, before the clowns.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Don't they know we are crazy.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Understandable, because who wants to think about the alternative?
BillyRibs
(787 posts)this Dog and pony show might be staged to extract a great deal of wealth when it ends?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Is not good for business. They know it.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)If it's status quo at 4 p.m. -- then fasten your seatbelts for Tuesday and Wednesday.
-105 as of 6 a.m.
Bunnahabhain
(857 posts)And Dow down 1/4 of a percent. Markets are barely even noticing at this point.
rdking647
(5,113 posts)not really worried.
if the market crashes im protected.
if it rallys i out on participatin gon part of the rally buy im proetcted
Bunnahabhain
(857 posts)I guess the sky is not falling at this point in time?
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)I'm always amazed by these threads. Pulled out of an IRA? Isn't there a severe tax penalty for that?
Bunnahabhain
(857 posts)I think people make things up and do not realize how transparent what they are saying is. As you pointed out no one is pulling out of their IRA over this and anyone that thinks a 100 point move in the DOW is "an event" obviously does not really follow the market. I've seen at least a dozen threads in the last week screaming the sky was falling for really marginal movement in the markets. I mean, am I a little concerned what happens in the babies in DC do not solve their argument ASAP? Sure. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to laugh at the Chicken Little histrionics I've been seeing.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)and not taking the distribution, meaning leaving the proceeds of the sale in the IRA, then there is no taxable event at all.