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Dow Futures down 108... (Original Post) busterbrown Oct 2013 OP
Dollars are taking a beating, too Warpy Oct 2013 #1
Nothing safer than 'holding,' imo. elleng Oct 2013 #3
It also appeals to my lazy nature. Warpy Oct 2013 #4
Right. elleng Oct 2013 #5
The problem is… regnaD kciN Oct 2013 #14
This week will be bad. elleng Oct 2013 #2
So many have bailed at the wrong time... busterbrown Oct 2013 #6
The worst reason to make any decision is panic Warpy Oct 2013 #7
Very difficult not to... busterbrown Oct 2013 #9
Yes, to a physical assault or natural disaster, elleng Oct 2013 #11
Yes, there will be a recovery, elleng Oct 2013 #8
Can’t be certain about 14....But one would think that they are finished.. busterbrown Oct 2013 #10
According to projections from the OMB (?)… regnaD kciN Oct 2013 #16
Yes, it could be that bad. elleng Oct 2013 #19
Wow Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #20
Yes, but utterly dependent on Fed government elleng Oct 2013 #22
Tokyo was closed in one hour FTSE opens grantcart Oct 2013 #12
FTSE just went positive making up for initial sell off. grantcart Oct 2013 #13
I think everyone has convinced themselves a deal will be reached. AngryOldDem Oct 2013 #18
does anyone suspect as I, BillyRibs Oct 2013 #15
Dollar is no longer reserve currency nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #23
I think we'll have a better idea of what will happen by market close today. AngryOldDem Oct 2013 #17
Nearly noon on the East Coast Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #21
90% hedged with puts rdking647 Oct 2013 #24
NASDAQ in positive territory... Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #25
Heh heh heh alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #26
Same here Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #27
If by pulling out the OP simply means selling..... A HERETIC I AM Oct 2013 #28

Warpy

(111,367 posts)
1. Dollars are taking a beating, too
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 02:51 AM
Oct 2013

Thanks a lot, you teabagger putzes.

I can't pull out, I can think of any place the boodle would be particularly safe.

Warpy

(111,367 posts)
4. It also appeals to my lazy nature.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 02:54 AM
Oct 2013

If we default, it's not going to last long before the 12 teabaggers are being burned in effigy outside the Capitol building.

Those morons have no idea in the world just what they're playing with.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
14. The problem is…
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:37 AM
Oct 2013

…the Tea-liban could cave and agree to an extension and clean CR within a day or two after default -- and it would still be too late. The damage will already be irreversible, and guaranteed to remain for the long term.



elleng

(131,176 posts)
2. This week will be bad.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 02:51 AM
Oct 2013

Will see where we go. Hope managers of my funds do the right things, and my federal soc sec, pension, and annuities survive.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
6. So many have bailed at the wrong time...
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 02:55 AM
Oct 2013

My opinion (highly uneducated) If you stay in, stay in all the way. So many pull out and never see the recovery.

There will be a recovery... I have faith in our country..

Warpy

(111,367 posts)
7. The worst reason to make any decision is panic
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 02:59 AM
Oct 2013

but most people panic and end up selling low and then rebuying at a higher price. That keeps brokers in hand tailored suits even when the game hasn't been as rigged as it is now.

elleng

(131,176 posts)
11. Yes, to a physical assault or natural disaster,
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 03:09 AM
Oct 2013

but people really need to think before they do any leaping, market-wise, and they/we can, take time, study and watch the way things move.

Certainly S.S. will 'recover,' at the very least. Someone here mentioned that if/when seniors, who tend to vote repug, fail to receive their payments, congresscritters will start hearing from them, and will respond accordingly.

elleng

(131,176 posts)
8. Yes, there will be a recovery,
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 03:00 AM
Oct 2013

likely slower than the one we've experienced so far.

IF folks will recall what these f*****s are putting us through, we'll get a decent congress in '14, and then we'll be able to move and recover.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
10. Can’t be certain about 14....But one would think that they are finished..
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 03:04 AM
Oct 2013

But there will be a recovery!!!

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
16. According to projections from the OMB (?)…
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:42 AM
Oct 2013

…default could lead to a global slowdown lasting a generation. In other words, think "Great Depression," but lasting twice as long.

elleng

(131,176 posts)
22. Yes, but utterly dependent on Fed government
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:47 AM
Oct 2013

for all these 'benefits.' Annuities due to husband's death, otherwise fed govt pension and ss. Had been looking OK, before the clowns.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
18. I think everyone has convinced themselves a deal will be reached.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:02 AM
Oct 2013

Understandable, because who wants to think about the alternative?

 

BillyRibs

(787 posts)
15. does anyone suspect as I,
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:41 AM
Oct 2013

this Dog and pony show might be staged to extract a great deal of wealth when it ends?

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
17. I think we'll have a better idea of what will happen by market close today.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:01 AM
Oct 2013

If it's status quo at 4 p.m. -- then fasten your seatbelts for Tuesday and Wednesday.

-105 as of 6 a.m.

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
21. Nearly noon on the East Coast
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:46 AM
Oct 2013

And Dow down 1/4 of a percent. Markets are barely even noticing at this point.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
24. 90% hedged with puts
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:55 AM
Oct 2013

not really worried.
if the market crashes im protected.
if it rallys i out on participatin gon part of the rally buy im proetcted

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
26. Heh heh heh
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:04 PM
Oct 2013

I'm always amazed by these threads. Pulled out of an IRA? Isn't there a severe tax penalty for that?

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
27. Same here
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:11 PM
Oct 2013

I think people make things up and do not realize how transparent what they are saying is. As you pointed out no one is pulling out of their IRA over this and anyone that thinks a 100 point move in the DOW is "an event" obviously does not really follow the market. I've seen at least a dozen threads in the last week screaming the sky was falling for really marginal movement in the markets. I mean, am I a little concerned what happens in the babies in DC do not solve their argument ASAP? Sure. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to laugh at the Chicken Little histrionics I've been seeing.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,380 posts)
28. If by pulling out the OP simply means selling.....
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:17 PM
Oct 2013

and not taking the distribution, meaning leaving the proceeds of the sale in the IRA, then there is no taxable event at all.

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