My guess is that if they get an actual budget resolution they'll further extend the debt ceiling.

4 months from now gets us right into the start of the 2014 election cycle.

these are huge concessions.

They need to do an annual budget and move on.

I'm sick and f*cking tired of this bullshit they pull every few months. Enough for christ's sake!

But, as miserable as this has been for us, it's going to get much worse for them.

Losing side rarely benefits from this kind of showdown.

do it all over again and hand us the House.

This was Pickett's Charge for them. If they're insane enough to revisit, it will be even easier to mow them down next time, and the rewards much greater.

to have them try to shut it down again won't they?
They have painted themselves into a situation that which ever way they turn they lose.
That is what Republican leadership is all about.

This was such an awful blunder; instead of turning the spotlight on Obamacare's opening glitches (which were bad enough to have Robert Gibbs call for firings today), most of the country was wondering what was wrong with them. Huge opportunity cost. Their unfavorables go to the heavens and Obamacare actually gains a few points. Only time will tell if they get back to basics over gimmicks, time and results of the internal bloodletting that's probably about to happen over there.

Doesn't seem like it would work for the Dems.

You cannot imagine Louis Gomert, Eric Cantor, or Ted Cruz learning anything in this process, can you?

But Rove and the Koch Brothers know when they get their asses kicked. So the real question is whether the real players still see the teabaggers as useful idiots or whether they now see them as a destructive force that must be swept aside.

to a Democrat in 2014 or want to be President someday. They're not going to go along with another suicide run like this.

We need to stop kicking the can and deal with the problem. This is merely postponing the conflict, yet again.

the benefits of gerrymandered wingnut utopias every 2 years.

If you thought they were a hot mess this go around, just wait until the next time . . .

Can't wait for the second act ...

Continued difficulties with implementing the ACA to give them additional leverage in January.

Bank on it. They have got to get that system fixed.

Obama believes giving up the medical device tax for 2 years Is worth preventing default and reopening government.

Some democrats think getting past holidays and having fight again In 2014 would be better.If tea party continues to cry babys demanding store for funding government and paying bills that would help democrats for 2014.

Income verification to see what, if any, subsidies you qualify for. If I'm right, that doesn't sound so bad.

he has said all along, "I am willing to talk about any and all ways to improve the Affordable Care Act. We know it isn't perfect."

This would give him clear evidence of it -- and after all this brouhaha for the teabaggers to get nothing but that would be devastating to them.

If it can make sure with Income verification that only the 98 percent of country can qualify for ACA.None of the top 2 percent.Then maybe that's not too bad.Some of these republicans like Mccain are rich but get SS and government health care.

Those all look like head fakes, and pretty thin soup for republicans.

Democrats have the stronger negotiating position.