and MSNBC wants to make sure everyone knows that.

play well on cable tv. It's like a real parent saying "no". Doesn't leave much room for tantrums and drama.

So in other words, they would prefer an America which more closely resembles antebellum times, or at least pre-Civil Rights Movement times.

should be ignored by the media once this over.

"...wage a second American NONVIOLENT revolution,....FIGURATIVELY come out with his hands up," he said.

Some threat!

By using words like "nonviolent" and "figuratively", he sounds like a guy who wanted to be provocative and not end up in jail for threatening the President.

Klayman next time be bold, do not hide your tough guy statements behind legally benign language.


Oh just checked he is an attorney. If he started a root he can say I told the crowd no violence...I said figuratively!

Coward

It never was anything but brutal and ignorant, and all the fine clothing and chivalry won't cover that up.

The fact that they lost the war between the states means that they have felt taken advantage of for years. Some of their grievances have substance, most don't. Their racism and their anger with their loss basically means that they are perpetual losers, and their 'superior civilization' is a waste. They feel that their economic star will rise again; in the meantime, they are making sure that it won't!

"By the beginning of the Civil War, Fayetteville (Arkansas) had become a prosperous community. One Union soldier described it as "a beautiful little hamlet nestling among the foothills of the Ozark range…the chief education center of the state, the home of culture, refinement and that inborn hospitality so characteristic of the South."

http://www.cem.va.gov/cems/nchp/fayetteville.asp

The fact is that the south that cotton built, with those lovely estates, women and men of leisure, duels and honour, was a fabrication.

The architecture was lovely, the land beautiful, true. But the entire system sucked money out of the system, much like the current system does, and there was no safety net of any kind to even out the results. Drug addiction was a common thing, disease was normal, childbirth was dangerous, and more so for those without means.

It was a standard unequal society, with the viciousness that this kind of inequality engenders.

The romantic notions involved in that business of the south rising again are just not something to be wished for.

There were a few slaves there, but the economy thrived because, as the Union soldier noted, the town was a center of learning and culture.

And the problems you describe in the South were also quite prevalent in the North. Whereas the South utilized slave labor, the North had no problems with exploiting child labor, and immigrant labor. The great steel mills of Pittsburgh and coal mines of Pennsylvania were manned by men who worked 'til they died, with no safety net, because the steel and coal barons knew they could easily hire replacements when workers died. And a lot of those replacements were kids. And the farms of the North utilized a different kind of slave labor, more like indentured servants-- farm kids who were forced to work on their parents' farms until they reached adulthood. My great-grandfather, for example, took my grandfather out of school in his senior year in high school in Kansas just so he could spend one more year working on the farm. And that was apparently fairly common.

in both North and South.

And while former slaves did have to endure systemic racism, lynching, disenfranchisement, etc., Lyndon Johnson, a Southerner, effectively put an end to that crap. And it should be noted that the 1920s revival of the Ku Klux Klan started in Indiana, and the famous photograph showing Klansmen riding a Ferris wheel was taken in Canon City, Colorado.

There are "teabag jerks" everywhere. I cannot kick them out of Arkansas, any more than you can kick them out of your state. The best I can do is cast a vote for the best candidate, and hope that my vote is counted. But at least in Arkansas, there is a sensible Democratic governor, as well as extended Medicaid, and no "stand-your-ground" law.

An oasis in the desert rarely denies the existence of said desert.

or in the industrial towns, for that matter.

And we'll have a lot of allies this time. No sitting around waiting while Britain and France temporize like they did in the 1860's. Every forward-thinking progressive country in the world will join the US in a smackdown of any Teabagger confederacy that can organize something more effective than a drunken weekend hunting party.

And as the new modern-day South gets more and more progressive, we'll hear less and less of that idiotic refrain...

frightening, evil. I want to cry when I read that. How could that be justified? Oh sorry and I love the Christian nation bit in there. That's not the first time I've heard it used to justify slavery and genocide against Native persons!
My god they're a cancer aren't they?