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applegrove

(118,749 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 10:46 PM Oct 2013

"House Republicans Are Now Turning On Ted Cruz"

House Republicans Are Now Turning On Ted Cruz

by Kate Nocera and John Stanton at BuzzFeed

http://www.buzzfeed.com/katenocera/house-republicans-are-now-turning-on-ted-cruz

"SNIP.............................


“Well, this has been a productive exercise hasn’t it?” snarked another Republican congressman. “We can blame Ted Cruz, and yeah, he convinced a lot of people that they were somehow not really conservatives if we didn’t take this route, and that’s ridiculous. But at the end of day, we played along. So shame on us.”

Cruz still holds considerable sway among House conservatives, who rallied around his cause.

But even within the ranks of the conference’s most ideologically pure, there’s frustration with the path Cruz led them down.

“You can’t just pull the pin on the grenade, roll it in the tent and walk away,” one conservative Republican said. “There’s real frustration” within the House Republican conference, the lawmaker added.


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"House Republicans Are Now Turning On Ted Cruz" (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2013 OP
I can't wait until he runs for President, it will be the bloodiest GOP primary ever Bjorn Against Oct 2013 #1
He has one accomplishment: geek tragedy Oct 2013 #3
And a 50-state Democratic sweep.... truebluegreen Oct 2013 #27
Republicans are stupid enough B Calm Oct 2013 #40
Your lips to Dog's ears! truebluegreen Oct 2013 #41
How can they think of running Cruz after all that Birther stink LynneSin Oct 2013 #44
They ran a bunch of clowns last time. Who could forget B Calm Oct 2013 #45
Ahhh....Herman Cain robbob Oct 2013 #46
A whole NEW cast of clowns Plucketeer Oct 2013 #58
Look at his skin color dem in texas Oct 2013 #50
He's half Cuban LynneSin Oct 2013 #51
bigger than that, they can not change the law. robinlynne Oct 2013 #57
How Can he run? BillyRibs Oct 2013 #64
I still can't figure that one out. Courtesy Flush Oct 2013 #66
Legally he probably can because his mother was an American citizen Bjorn Against Oct 2013 #67
I had a Family Member, BillyRibs Oct 2013 #68
I sincerely hope Ted Cruz has done himself in. NV Whino Oct 2013 #2
Heavens, no. BlueStreak Oct 2013 #14
SP and TC would make the ideal GOP ticket - for us! IrishAyes Oct 2013 #18
I agree, but... NV Whino Oct 2013 #29
The last one that made it this was was ROnale Raygun BlueStreak Oct 2013 #36
My Heart Bleeds- ruffburr Oct 2013 #4
there isn't a woodshed big enough for Carnival Cruz's ego Skittles Oct 2013 #5
Been revolving around him for some time cvoogt Oct 2013 #6
Ted Screws did it just to inflate his bank accounts (shove it in their stoopid faces). Amonester Oct 2013 #7
This is the best one yet ... Ted Screws. Oh my. Revenge for the many PBO name puns. libdem4life Oct 2013 #71
This is sooo funny ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #8
Yup, they made this made. Southside Oct 2013 #10
reminds me of when Rove went running to the Faux "News" back room in 2012 election wordpix Oct 2013 #59
Cruz is just the Devil's messenger Southside Oct 2013 #9
Reads like something straight out of Milton, doesn't it? IrishAyes Oct 2013 #19
The Cruz photo ai keep seeing on DU is a horror story Southside Oct 2013 #28
Hey Ted and Bonehead VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #11
Wait until they find out how much money he raised with this scam.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #12
That's what I am thinking. avaistheone1 Oct 2013 #15
There needs to be an investigation.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #22
I think Cruz is a fraud. avaistheone1 Oct 2013 #23
The charges would be misappropriation of funds.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #24
He's a charlatan at the very least, but unless he broke campaign laws there's not much to be done. bluesbassman Oct 2013 #25
Let the Republicans deal with him. He's their problem BlueStreak Oct 2013 #37
funded by Senate Conservatives Fund, and who funds them? Answer and article: wordpix Oct 2013 #60
Senate Conservatives Fund Shutdown Strategy Led to Record Fundraising wordpix Oct 2013 #61
He took the rethugs on the authentic Cruz Carnival kairos12 Oct 2013 #13
"Going off the rails on the Cruz-y Train" .... Myrina Oct 2013 #31
Hahahaha! What a slime bag Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #16
Well, do tell. The worm always turns, doesn't it? Let me find my worry doll. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #17
“You can’t just pull the pin on the grenade, roll it in the tent and walk away,” DeSwiss Oct 2013 #20
I saw some of the Cruz footage on the House floor this evening. avaistheone1 Oct 2013 #21
Like many have said.. I think we all need to thank ted cruz.. although I Cha Oct 2013 #26
Where's KKKarl Rove when we need him to drum up a scandal? Myrina Oct 2013 #30
So I'm understanding this right? Dopers_Greed Oct 2013 #32
Fun to watch them chew on him.....but Jakes Progress Oct 2013 #33
I'm starting to hear repugs say louis-t Oct 2013 #34
It's hard to tell cruz and other repukes apart. russspeakeasy Oct 2013 #35
They all can go to hell. jsr Oct 2013 #38
They own it just as much as Cruz does Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2013 #39
"But at the end of day, we played along. So shame on us.” That says it all. rhett o rick Oct 2013 #42
Daymmmmm, Cruz REALLY effed up greiner3 Oct 2013 #43
hahahahahah wryter2000 Oct 2013 #47
Oh, .... poor baby! meti57b Oct 2013 #48
They will use Cruz as a fig leaf, but ulimately the Republicans in the House are/were responsible Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #49
King frog64 Oct 2013 #54
Douchey is as Douchey does. King_Klonopin Oct 2013 #52
Hey, Canadian Cruz ... blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #53
I find it interesting healthnut7 Oct 2013 #55
Don't these people have minds of their own katmondoo Oct 2013 #56
I'll Answer that one with a Quote, BillyRibs Oct 2013 #65
The party of "personal responsibility" never takes responsibility City Lights Oct 2013 #73
I am reminded of the final scenes in "My Favorite Year" kentauros Oct 2013 #62
LOL! applegrove Oct 2013 #63
Apparently they didn't grow up being forced to watch JoeyT Oct 2013 #69
This is not accurate Moral Compass Oct 2013 #70
Yup. agreed. I'm amazed that DUers so casually laugh about this riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #72
Big money has already left them...Chamber of Commerce, Kochs, Wall Street libdem4life Oct 2013 #74
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
3. He has one accomplishment:
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 10:51 PM
Oct 2013

making Rand Paul look like a voice of responsibility and restraint (relatively)

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
41. Your lips to Dog's ears!
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:25 PM
Oct 2013

With SARAH! (as my favorite redneck bigot calls her) as his running mate.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
44. How can they think of running Cruz after all that Birther stink
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:11 PM
Oct 2013

The Birthers have spent almost 6 years trying to convince us that Obama was born in Kenya and there for not qualified to be president even if his mother was an American-born Citizen. Even after Obama has showed us all the evidence to prove his birth was in Hawaii the birthers still think Obama was born in Kenya.

Now we have Cruz who has even shown his birth certificate that he was born in Canada. Just like Obama his mother was an American Citizen and also like Obama, Cruz's father was citizen of another country.

Personally to me the mother with the American birth certificate is enough for me to make both of them constitutionally qualified to run for President. But I'm sorry, I'm not giving Cruz a free pass on his birth certificate after the bullshit of what was done to Obama. If the Birthers say a person born in a foreign country even with one parent an American Citizen is NOT qualitifed to be president then Cruz is not qualified.

They can't change their message simply because one of their own crazies wants to be president!

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
45. They ran a bunch of clowns last time. Who could forget
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:17 PM
Oct 2013

Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, and Mitt Romney!

Courtesy Flush

(4,558 posts)
66. I still can't figure that one out.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 09:18 AM
Oct 2013

If Obama had actually been born in Kenya, then he couldn't be president, yet Cruz was definitely born in Canada, and birthers can't wait to send him to the White House.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
67. Legally he probably can because his mother was an American citizen
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 09:56 AM
Oct 2013

The definition of what a "natural born citizen" is has not been tested in court yet, the birthers tried to test it with Obama but because he was born in Hawaii there was nothing to test and the courts threw the case out. In Cruz's case I am sure the courts would hear the case because he was born in another country and there is no disputing this fact, in the end however I think the courts would probably rule in Cruz's favor because he was born an American citizen even if he was not born in the US. The birthers would sure look like hypocrites if they supported Cruz however after all the stink they made about Obama's birth certificate.

 

BillyRibs

(787 posts)
68. I had a Family Member,
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 02:00 AM
Oct 2013

who was born in Canada, My uncle had to literally "run" to the embassy to have the birth certificate issued US Government (this took Mating Elephants). because if it was issued by the hospital in Toronto, He would have been a Canadian citizen.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
14. Heavens, no.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:13 AM
Oct 2013

We need him to be on the 2016 ticket, in case Sarah Palin isn't hanging around.

Oh never mind. I just realized how stupid it sounds to say "in case Sarah Palin isn't hanging around". She will be hanging around.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
36. The last one that made it this was was ROnale Raygun
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:07 PM
Oct 2013

And Ted Cruz is no Ronald Raygun. Ronnie was actually a likable person if you ignored what he was saying. Cruz is a thoroughly disgusting, contemptible character.

Cruz is a dream come true. He is the perfect person to have in the process because he can get just enough votes to win the nomination and will never be anywhere close to winning the presidency, no matter how much money is behind him if the Dems don't run a serial killer or animal molester as their candidate.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
7. Ted Screws did it just to inflate his bank accounts (shove it in their stoopid faces).
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 10:56 PM
Oct 2013
Ted $crews Just Extorted Taxpayers $24 Billion To Pay For His "Remarkable Victory" Of Another Lunatic Shutdown.

Shove it in their stoopid faces. North. South. East. West.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
71. This is the best one yet ... Ted Screws. Oh my. Revenge for the many PBO name puns.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 07:56 PM
Oct 2013

And indeed, he got/cost us $24 billion worth of taxpayer advertising time on our public waves and in Congressional Building. Not to mention all the replays...pro and con.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
8. This is sooo funny ...
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 10:57 PM
Oct 2013

here is the "party of personal responsibility" dodging their personal responsibility for the choice of direction they chose. "It was his fault I voted to repeal ObamaCare 42 times ... it is his fault I sat back as he drove the gop car over the cliff."

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
59. reminds me of when Rove went running to the Faux "News" back room in 2012 election
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:51 PM
Oct 2013

He just couldn't believe Rmoney had lost. All that Koch and Club for Growth $$$$ and they still could not buy the presidency. Echo chamber indeed.

Southside

(338 posts)
9. Cruz is just the Devil's messenger
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 10:59 PM
Oct 2013

They made deals with Devil, they tried to caucus with fire, Koch, freedomworks, heritage, Cruz and Devil expects service

Southside

(338 posts)
28. The Cruz photo ai keep seeing on DU is a horror story
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:41 AM
Oct 2013

Every time I see that.particular photo I cringe.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
15. That's what I am thinking.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:24 AM
Oct 2013

He gets to keep any unspent campaign funds - which I think is ethically wrong.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
22. There needs to be an investigation....
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:41 AM
Oct 2013

Check this out:



How much MONEY did just THIS commercial alone put in his pocket?

There were tons of them besides this one.
 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
23. I think Cruz is a fraud.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:44 AM
Oct 2013

I am not sure how an investigation would work. What would be the framework and the charges?

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
24. The charges would be misappropriation of funds....
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:49 AM
Oct 2013

People sending in cash would expect it to go towards the Cause,...not his odor eaters.

bluesbassman

(19,378 posts)
25. He's a charlatan at the very least, but unless he broke campaign laws there's not much to be done.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:55 AM
Oct 2013

Hopefully his sheep constituents will wise up and vote him out in 2018.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
61. Senate Conservatives Fund Shutdown Strategy Led to Record Fundraising
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:04 PM
Oct 2013
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/18/senate-conservatives-fund-shutdown_n_4125267.html

WASHINGTON -- The Senate Conservatives Fund posted record fundraising numbers in September as it backed the congressional campaign to defund Obamacare that ultimately forced a 16-day government shutdown.

In the month leading to the Oct. 1 shutdown, Senate Conservatives Fund raised more than $2.1 million, a record for the group in a non-election year and the second-highest monthly total it has ever reported. The majority of the fundraising, $1.9 million, came from small donors. snip

The Senate Conservatives Fund endorsed Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell's (R-Ky.) tea party challenger in the Republican primary, Matt Bevins, on Friday. McConnell helped pass a compromise to reopen the government and raise the debt limit that gave conservatives nothing in return.

"Mitch McConnell has the support of the entire Washington establishment and he will do anything to hold on to power," said Senate Conservatives Fund executive director Matt Hoskins in a statement. snip

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
17. Well, do tell. The worm always turns, doesn't it? Let me find my worry doll.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:33 AM
Oct 2013

I'm telling you, those windbags have pummeled people into tears before my eyes with their lying. Once when I stopped by to see a lady I knew who'd been nice to me but was having a hard time, I found her shaking and near a nervous breakdown. Turns out both her parents had to go to the nursing home, and she was totally convinced Barack Obama would order the plug pulled on them! Another person at her home that evening burst out with, "That Obama! He's the very devil!" I told her to "stop talking - NOW" even though I wish I could've just said shut your stupid trap. But there are rules for guests when you're not in your own home. I try to be polite so I can wade into people who aren't. Well, maybe that's not the highest motive but any port in a storm, I guess.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
20. “You can’t just pull the pin on the grenade, roll it in the tent and walk away,”
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:38 AM
Oct 2013
- The metaphor explains much about their mentality.

K&R

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
21. I saw some of the Cruz footage on the House floor this evening.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:39 AM
Oct 2013

Unfortunately he didn't look at all humbled to me.

I am not sure Cruz will ever get it. He is too much of an arrogant, sociopathic zealot.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
26. Like many have said.. I think we all need to thank ted cruz.. although I
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:08 AM
Oct 2013

prefer to just do it right here. thanks ted cruz.. yur crazyass plans only helped America not destroyed it like ya wanted. Bam.

"I don’t think there’s any question [it’s worse]. I could have written this story from day one. If you follow the Cruz plan, you end up exactly where we are,” Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger told BuzzFeed. “I think it’s obvious that we had a really grown up plan on how to deal with this, we had some in our party who rejected that, and we had to go along with [the Cruz] plan.”

thanks applegrove~

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
30. Where's KKKarl Rove when we need him to drum up a scandal?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:57 AM
Oct 2013

I'm sure the main planks of the GOP would love to find a reason for Rafael Theodore to 'spend more time with his family' all of the sudden ....

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
32. So I'm understanding this right?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:00 AM
Oct 2013

Republicans are not mad at Cruz over the shutdown disaster and all the pain it caused Americans. They support all that. The real reason for their anger is just that he made the the repugs look bad in the process.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
33. Fun to watch them chew on him.....but
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:06 AM
Oct 2013

he will be re-elected. He will get millions in campaign donations. All the republicans will want him raising money for them.

Republicans have it easy. Their political targets are stupid people. It is easy to con frightened, stupid people. Go "boo" and tell a lie. THey will fall for it over and over and over.

Just yesterday they had a group of teenagers from a Texas private school on a television news story. The gist of the story was how they came to Washington on a field trip and the town was closed. A disappointment? No. They got to meet ted cruz. The teenage girl being interviewed gushed at what an honor and joy it was to get to personally talk to him.

See. Stupid people.

louis-t

(23,296 posts)
34. I'm starting to hear repugs say
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:21 AM
Oct 2013

"He's not really a Republican" I think we'll be hearing more of this from the right. I am predicting they will force the teabaggers to start their own party.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
42. "But at the end of day, we played along. So shame on us.” That says it all.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:32 PM
Oct 2013

Most House Republicans are weak authoritarian followers.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
43. Daymmmmm, Cruz REALLY effed up
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:26 PM
Oct 2013

So after his month long ride on the Republican 'Clown Bus', the one containing the supposed leading presidential candidates, is thrown under the back wheels.

It's good to be a Liberal!

Uncle Joe

(58,389 posts)
49. They will use Cruz as a fig leaf, but ulimately the Republicans in the House are/were responsible
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:10 PM
Oct 2013

for their own actions.

Thanks for the thread, applegrove.

 

frog64

(40 posts)
54. King
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 07:49 AM
Oct 2013

Congressman King and one other Repub were the only ones to vote against the shutdown. they get the balls of the year award. the rest of the GOP caucus will pay a price for their cowardice.

healthnut7

(249 posts)
55. I find it interesting
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:11 PM
Oct 2013

That he goes by Ted and not Rafael his first name. I think the Democrats should use his first name every time they talk about him. Maybe mention from time to time his Dad is Cuban. ☺
No, we DO NOT want him back in Canada!!! ha ha Actually he would never come back to run in Politics because he would get no where the way he thinks.

 

BillyRibs

(787 posts)
65. I'll Answer that one with a Quote,
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:40 AM
Oct 2013

"Look Claudius the Senate are a bunch of sheep, But among them are a few wolves who all believe they should be Emperor." -Herod Agrippa, From the screen Play I Claudius.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
73. The party of "personal responsibility" never takes responsibility
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 08:17 PM
Oct 2013

for anything! It's always some other person's fault. Cry me a river, whiney GOPee.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
62. I am reminded of the final scenes in "My Favorite Year"
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:04 PM
Oct 2013

when the soft-spoken writer says a rather funny and wonderfully appropriate line here:




Pertinent line at 1:16

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
69. Apparently they didn't grow up being forced to watch
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 10:32 AM
Oct 2013

the same horrible Saturday specials about peer pressure we all did.

Cruz still holds considerable sway among House conservatives, who rallied around his cause.


Of course he does. If they were able to learn from stuff that didn't work, they wouldn't be conservatives.

Moral Compass

(1,524 posts)
70. This is not accurate
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 07:23 PM
Oct 2013

Cruz is currently on a "victory" tour here in Texas. The right wing is consolidating, refining their message, and deciding on their next battle. Not only are they not defeated--they don't feel defeated. The right wing of the right wing has decided that it is only those damn weak willed RINOs that screwed up the whole thing.

What we have to hope for is that the money guys (the Kochs et al) are going to refuse to fund the true crazies. That is not in our control. Right now they still have plenty of money left.

Hate to be alarmist, but these folks are not rational. Cruz might be rational, but it is the psychopathic type of rationality. He will do anything to win and doesn't care what he does to the country in the process. I'm not sure we aren't witnessing the rise of an American Pol Pot.

He clearly thinks that he is right and that we should be in default right now. The money is pouring in from the 30% of America that is completely insane and doesn't understand that the consequences of continuing down this path are beyond bad.

I've never been more scared in my life.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
72. Yup. agreed. I'm amazed that DUers so casually laugh about this
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 08:12 PM
Oct 2013

If the big money gets behind these Dominiest crazies all bets are off.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
74. Big money has already left them...Chamber of Commerce, Kochs, Wall Street
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 08:28 PM
Oct 2013

have publicly gone on record...no to the radicals. John McCain and the Peter King, leaders of the Old Guard of the party will win, however it will likely cost them in 2014 ... yeah Dems.

He will whip up the faithful for awhile, but increasingly the "adults" are taking over the conversation. And that's just what happened. He is not finished, but more and more he is a "king" only in his and his father's mind. That crazy video alone has alerted sane people.

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