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House Republicans Are Now Turning On Ted Cruzby Kate Nocera and John Stanton at BuzzFeed
http://www.buzzfeed.com/katenocera/house-republicans-are-now-turning-on-ted-cruz
"SNIP.............................
Well, this has been a productive exercise hasnt it? snarked another Republican congressman. We can blame Ted Cruz, and yeah, he convinced a lot of people that they were somehow not really conservatives if we didnt take this route, and thats ridiculous. But at the end of day, we played along. So shame on us.
Cruz still holds considerable sway among House conservatives, who rallied around his cause.
But even within the ranks of the conferences most ideologically pure, theres frustration with the path Cruz led them down.
You cant just pull the pin on the grenade, roll it in the tent and walk away, one conservative Republican said. Theres real frustration within the House Republican conference, the lawmaker added.
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Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)making Rand Paul look like a voice of responsibility and restraint (relatively)
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)well, maybe 45...40? Well, an epic beating.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)to put him in the presidential race.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)With SARAH! (as my favorite redneck bigot calls her) as his running mate.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)The Birthers have spent almost 6 years trying to convince us that Obama was born in Kenya and there for not qualified to be president even if his mother was an American-born Citizen. Even after Obama has showed us all the evidence to prove his birth was in Hawaii the birthers still think Obama was born in Kenya.
Now we have Cruz who has even shown his birth certificate that he was born in Canada. Just like Obama his mother was an American Citizen and also like Obama, Cruz's father was citizen of another country.
Personally to me the mother with the American birth certificate is enough for me to make both of them constitutionally qualified to run for President. But I'm sorry, I'm not giving Cruz a free pass on his birth certificate after the bullshit of what was done to Obama. If the Birthers say a person born in a foreign country even with one parent an American Citizen is NOT qualitifed to be president then Cruz is not qualified.
They can't change their message simply because one of their own crazies wants to be president!
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, and Mitt Romney!
robbob
(3,536 posts)....good times, good times.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)It'll be a three-ring riot!
dem in texas
(2,674 posts)That explains it all.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)doesn't that count for something?
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)BillyRibs
(787 posts)He Was born in Canada, He's a Canadian Citizen!
Courtesy Flush
(4,558 posts)If Obama had actually been born in Kenya, then he couldn't be president, yet Cruz was definitely born in Canada, and birthers can't wait to send him to the White House.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)The definition of what a "natural born citizen" is has not been tested in court yet, the birthers tried to test it with Obama but because he was born in Hawaii there was nothing to test and the courts threw the case out. In Cruz's case I am sure the courts would hear the case because he was born in another country and there is no disputing this fact, in the end however I think the courts would probably rule in Cruz's favor because he was born an American citizen even if he was not born in the US. The birthers would sure look like hypocrites if they supported Cruz however after all the stink they made about Obama's birth certificate.
BillyRibs
(787 posts)who was born in Canada, My uncle had to literally "run" to the embassy to have the birth certificate issued US Government (this took Mating Elephants). because if it was issued by the hospital in Toronto, He would have been a Canadian citizen.
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)We need him to be on the 2016 ticket, in case Sarah Palin isn't hanging around.
Oh never mind. I just realized how stupid it sounds to say "in case Sarah Palin isn't hanging around". She will be hanging around.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Never underestimate these lieing fucks and their money supply.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)And Ted Cruz is no Ronald Raygun. Ronnie was actually a likable person if you ignored what he was saying. Cruz is a thoroughly disgusting, contemptible character.
Cruz is a dream come true. He is the perfect person to have in the process because he can get just enough votes to win the nomination and will never be anywhere close to winning the presidency, no matter how much money is behind him if the Dems don't run a serial killer or animal molester as their candidate.
ruffburr
(1,190 posts)Worlds Smallest Violin, And last but not Least, Crocodile Tears
Skittles
(153,174 posts)no INDEED
cvoogt
(949 posts)so turning makes sense
Amonester
(11,541 posts)Shove it in their stoopid faces. North. South. East. West.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)And indeed, he got/cost us $24 billion worth of taxpayer advertising time on our public waves and in Congressional Building. Not to mention all the replays...pro and con.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)here is the "party of personal responsibility" dodging their personal responsibility for the choice of direction they chose. "It was his fault I voted to repeal ObamaCare 42 times ... it is his fault I sat back as he drove the gop car over the cliff."
Southside
(338 posts)I will say their echo chamber was way off
wordpix
(18,652 posts)He just couldn't believe Rmoney had lost. All that Koch and Club for Growth $$$$ and they still could not buy the presidency. Echo chamber indeed.
Southside
(338 posts)They made deals with Devil, they tried to caucus with fire, Koch, freedomworks, heritage, Cruz and Devil expects service
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)Southside
(338 posts)Every time I see that.particular photo I cringe.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)"Set for life" comes to mind.
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)He gets to keep any unspent campaign funds - which I think is ethically wrong.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Check this out:
How much MONEY did just THIS commercial alone put in his pocket?
There were tons of them besides this one.
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)I am not sure how an investigation would work. What would be the framework and the charges?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)People sending in cash would expect it to go towards the Cause,...not his odor eaters.
bluesbassman
(19,378 posts)Hopefully his sheep constituents will wise up and vote him out in 2018.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)He's our solution.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)WASHINGTON -- The Senate Conservatives Fund posted record fundraising numbers in September as it backed the congressional campaign to defund Obamacare that ultimately forced a 16-day government shutdown.
In the month leading to the Oct. 1 shutdown, Senate Conservatives Fund raised more than $2.1 million, a record for the group in a non-election year and the second-highest monthly total it has ever reported. The majority of the fundraising, $1.9 million, came from small donors. snip
The Senate Conservatives Fund endorsed Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell's (R-Ky.) tea party challenger in the Republican primary, Matt Bevins, on Friday. McConnell helped pass a compromise to reopen the government and raise the debt limit that gave conservatives nothing in return.
"Mitch McConnell has the support of the entire Washington establishment and he will do anything to hold on to power," said Senate Conservatives Fund executive director Matt Hoskins in a statement. snip
kairos12
(12,866 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts)Apologies to Ozzy Osbourne.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)I'm telling you, those windbags have pummeled people into tears before my eyes with their lying. Once when I stopped by to see a lady I knew who'd been nice to me but was having a hard time, I found her shaking and near a nervous breakdown. Turns out both her parents had to go to the nursing home, and she was totally convinced Barack Obama would order the plug pulled on them! Another person at her home that evening burst out with, "That Obama! He's the very devil!" I told her to "stop talking - NOW" even though I wish I could've just said shut your stupid trap. But there are rules for guests when you're not in your own home. I try to be polite so I can wade into people who aren't. Well, maybe that's not the highest motive but any port in a storm, I guess.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)K&R
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)Unfortunately he didn't look at all humbled to me.
I am not sure Cruz will ever get it. He is too much of an arrogant, sociopathic zealot.
Cha
(297,503 posts)prefer to just do it right here. thanks ted cruz.. yur crazyass plans only helped America not destroyed it like ya wanted. Bam.
"I dont think theres any question [its worse]. I could have written this story from day one. If you follow the Cruz plan, you end up exactly where we are, Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger told BuzzFeed. I think its obvious that we had a really grown up plan on how to deal with this, we had some in our party who rejected that, and we had to go along with [the Cruz] plan.
thanks applegrove~
Myrina
(12,296 posts)I'm sure the main planks of the GOP would love to find a reason for Rafael Theodore to 'spend more time with his family' all of the sudden ....
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)Republicans are not mad at Cruz over the shutdown disaster and all the pain it caused Americans. They support all that. The real reason for their anger is just that he made the the repugs look bad in the process.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)he will be re-elected. He will get millions in campaign donations. All the republicans will want him raising money for them.
Republicans have it easy. Their political targets are stupid people. It is easy to con frightened, stupid people. Go "boo" and tell a lie. THey will fall for it over and over and over.
Just yesterday they had a group of teenagers from a Texas private school on a television news story. The gist of the story was how they came to Washington on a field trip and the town was closed. A disappointment? No. They got to meet ted cruz. The teenage girl being interviewed gushed at what an honor and joy it was to get to personally talk to him.
See. Stupid people.
louis-t
(23,296 posts)"He's not really a Republican" I think we'll be hearing more of this from the right. I am predicting they will force the teabaggers to start their own party.
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)jsr
(7,712 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,426 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Most House Republicans are weak authoritarian followers.
greiner3
(5,214 posts)So after his month long ride on the Republican 'Clown Bus', the one containing the supposed leading presidential candidates, is thrown under the back wheels.
It's good to be a Liberal!
wryter2000
(46,076 posts)I love the smell of Schadenfreude in the morning (or afternoon).
meti57b
(3,584 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,389 posts)for their own actions.
Thanks for the thread, applegrove.
Congressman King and one other Repub were the only ones to vote against the shutdown. they get the balls of the year award. the rest of the GOP caucus will pay a price for their cowardice.
King_Klonopin
(1,306 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Go back to Canada!!!
healthnut7
(249 posts)That he goes by Ted and not Rafael his first name. I think the Democrats should use his first name every time they talk about him. Maybe mention from time to time his Dad is Cuban. ☺
No, we DO NOT want him back in Canada!!! ha ha Actually he would never come back to run in Politics because he would get no where the way he thinks.
katmondoo
(6,457 posts)Why are so many followers.
BillyRibs
(787 posts)"Look Claudius the Senate are a bunch of sheep, But among them are a few wolves who all believe they should be Emperor." -Herod Agrippa, From the screen Play I Claudius.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)for anything! It's always some other person's fault. Cry me a river, whiney GOPee.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)when the soft-spoken writer says a rather funny and wonderfully appropriate line here:
Pertinent line at 1:16
applegrove
(118,749 posts)JoeyT
(6,785 posts)the same horrible Saturday specials about peer pressure we all did.
Cruz still holds considerable sway among House conservatives, who rallied around his cause.
Of course he does. If they were able to learn from stuff that didn't work, they wouldn't be conservatives.
Moral Compass
(1,524 posts)Cruz is currently on a "victory" tour here in Texas. The right wing is consolidating, refining their message, and deciding on their next battle. Not only are they not defeated--they don't feel defeated. The right wing of the right wing has decided that it is only those damn weak willed RINOs that screwed up the whole thing.
What we have to hope for is that the money guys (the Kochs et al) are going to refuse to fund the true crazies. That is not in our control. Right now they still have plenty of money left.
Hate to be alarmist, but these folks are not rational. Cruz might be rational, but it is the psychopathic type of rationality. He will do anything to win and doesn't care what he does to the country in the process. I'm not sure we aren't witnessing the rise of an American Pol Pot.
He clearly thinks that he is right and that we should be in default right now. The money is pouring in from the 30% of America that is completely insane and doesn't understand that the consequences of continuing down this path are beyond bad.
I've never been more scared in my life.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)If the big money gets behind these Dominiest crazies all bets are off.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)have publicly gone on record...no to the radicals. John McCain and the Peter King, leaders of the Old Guard of the party will win, however it will likely cost them in 2014 ... yeah Dems.
He will whip up the faithful for awhile, but increasingly the "adults" are taking over the conversation. And that's just what happened. He is not finished, but more and more he is a "king" only in his and his father's mind. That crazy video alone has alerted sane people.