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Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:56 AM Oct 2013

Does anyone think Immigration has a chance now?

The President had announced that Immigration was going to be his next big push. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/obama-says-push-immigration-fiscal-crisis-over-013802515.html

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama said on Tuesday that stalled immigration reform would be a top priority once the fiscal crisis has been resolved.

"Once that's done, you know, the day after, I'm going to be pushing to say, call a vote on immigration reform," he told the Los Angeles affiliate of Spanish-language television network Univision.

The president's domestic agenda has been sidetracked in his second term by one problem after another. As he coped with the revelation of domestic surveillance programs, chemical weapons in Syria, and a fiscal battle that has shut down the U.S. government and threatens a debt default, immigration has been relegated to the back burner.


Does anyone seriously think that Immigration has a chance now? Is there a new spirit of Bi-Partisanship in Washington? The only tool in the drawer is President Obama declaring that he won't sign the Budget Resolution in two months if the Republicans don't pass Immigration, and that sets up us being the bad guys.

Expect no major legislative action until after the 2014 election, and if we don't take the House back with Progressives, even then there won't be any action. The Blue Dogs will be playing it safe knowing that they'll be primary challenged from the Left if they don't play it safe.
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Does anyone think Immigration has a chance now? (Original Post) Savannahmann Oct 2013 OP
Jobs should be the priority. PeteSelman Oct 2013 #1
OK, what proposals do we put forth? Savannahmann Oct 2013 #3
the house gop beachbum bob Oct 2013 #2
No gopiscrap Oct 2013 #4
No. Laelth Oct 2013 #5
No, but it will pass in 2015 after the Pukes implode. nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #6
 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
3. OK, what proposals do we put forth?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:36 AM
Oct 2013

Another Stimulus has less chance than Immigration of making it through the House. Tax credits and hiring subsidies will go no where because our side won't give big business a cheap tax cut, even if it would work in Real World instead of Rethug fantasy land.

So we can go out and talk jobs, but we can't offer any plans that would help matters any. We have won an important tactical victory in the Budget Battle, but we have just created the scenario where it's constant warfare over every issue, bi-partisan is dead for the next year.

The only hope is that we win in 2014, an event many here consider to be just short of certain. I am not so convinced. Off year elections are normally less than stellar for the party in power, and with the White House and the Senate in Democratic Hands, there is every probability that we'll stay just as we are for the remainder of President Obama's term.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
2. the house gop
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:07 AM
Oct 2013

Will squash all attempts. The next 12 months will be used as vengence against Obama and democrats. Don't fool yourself. 180 republicans voted to destroy our economy. ..

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
5. No.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:46 AM
Oct 2013

But the political operatives I have talked to see immigration as a political weapon. They don't really care about the immigrants, but they do want to drive a wedge between Hispanic voters and the GOP, and they intend to push immigration reform as a way to put Hispanics firmly in the Democratic Party's bloc.

Personally, I see little to be gained from pushing immigration reform, at this time, but the power players see it as an opportunity to further embarrass and destroy Republicans, so there you have it. Democrats intend to control the national agenda for a while with an issue that, they think, will help Democrats and hurt Republicans.



-Laelth

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