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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,135 posts)
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:56 PM Oct 2013

Labor puts Dems on notice: Don’t touch Medicare and Social Security benefits

With the crisis chatter in Washington now turning to speculation about the coming budget talks and the possibility of a “grand bargain” to replace the sequester, liberals and unions are getting increasingly nervous that Congressional Dems will give up entitlement benefits cuts in exchange for, well, whatever is on offer from Republicans, which isn’t at all clear.

In an interview, Damon Silvers, the policy director of the AFL-CIO, laid down a hard line, putting Dems on notice that any agreement that cuts entitlement benefits — even in a deal that includes GOP concessions on tax hikes — is a nonstarter. Silvers strongly suggested labor would withhold support in 2014 from any Dem lawmaker who supports such a deal.

“We are opposed to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid benefits cuts. Period,” Silvers told me. “There will be no cover for members of either party who vote for such a thing.”

Silvers said the AFL-CIO also opposes the entitlements cuts in the President’s budget, such as Chained CPI and a form of Medicare means testing. It’s unclear how, or whether, those will figure in what Dems bring to the table in the budget talks, which are mandated by the deal just reached to end the crisis.

“Chained CPI is like the vampire of American politics,” Silvers said. “It keeps being shot through the heart and it keeps reviving. The reason it keeps coming back is because it has billionaires behind it.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/10/17/labor-puts-dems-on-notice-dont-touch-medicare-and-social-security-benefits/

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Labor puts Dems on notice: Don’t touch Medicare and Social Security benefits (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 OP
Since when do they give a damn what labor thinks? PeteSelman Oct 2013 #1
I think it's important to contact Democrats in Congress AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #2
"the AFL-CIO also opposes the entitlements cuts in the President’s budget" bread_and_roses Oct 2013 #3
these programs are not onethatcares Oct 2013 #4
"Unions warn Obama against benefit cut fetish" bread_and_roses Oct 2013 #5
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #6
If the president ends up signing changes to Medicare or SS benefits, will labor get an extended hughee99 Oct 2013 #7
We should work to unionize all labor in the US. nt Zorra Oct 2013 #8

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
1. Since when do they give a damn what labor thinks?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 05:00 PM
Oct 2013

They don't give fuck one about us and haven't for twenty-five years.

They're coming for the big three and there ain't nothing to be done about it. What are you going to do? Vote republican?

Is like them to prove me wrong on this but don't expect it.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
2. I think it's important to contact Democrats in Congress
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 05:24 PM
Oct 2013

and tell them to VOTE NO! on any bill that comes before them with Chained CPI or ANY alteration to the social safety net.

bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
3. "the AFL-CIO also opposes the entitlements cuts in the President’s budget"
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:44 AM
Oct 2013

It is not surprising but it IS distressing that this thread sank like a stone ...

Silvers said the AFL-CIO also opposes the entitlements cuts in the President’s budget, such as Chained CPI and a form of Medicare means testing. It’s unclear how, or whether, those will figure in what Dems bring to the table in the budget talks, which are mandated by the deal just reached to end the crisis.


I hope the AFL-CIO doesn't cave on this either .... perhaps this being POTUS's second term will stiffen their spines ... as he'll not be running again.

onethatcares

(16,178 posts)
4. these programs are not
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:14 AM
Oct 2013

Entitlements. They are programs contributed to by every working class person in the United States. They are not like a fucking ice cream cone after you finish dinner.

Wrote to my Senator already, Bill Nelson that is. He seems to be very wishy washy and I've yet to see him come up with any progressive ideas but what the hey?

bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
5. "Unions warn Obama against benefit cut fetish"
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 10:59 AM
Oct 2013
http://www.salon.com/2013/10/21/ignore_thomas_friedman_unions_tell_obama/

Ignore Tom Friedman!: Unions warn Obama against benefit cut fetish

“The labor movement is going to fight to the death to stop cuts to Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid,” AFL-CIO policy director Damon Silvers told Salon Thursday afternoon. “Not ‘unreasonable cuts.’ Not ‘cuts without tax increases.’ Cuts period. We’re against all of them, we will fight them ferociously, and we will give no cover to any Democrat who supports them.”

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
7. If the president ends up signing changes to Medicare or SS benefits, will labor get an extended
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 12:01 PM
Oct 2013

"Cadillac Tax" waiver to bring them back in for the election?

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