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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFirst Larry Summers, now Ray Kelly. Damn you, Obama.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-to-nominate-jeh-johnson-former-pentagon-official-as-next-dhs-secretary/2013/10/17/74eb8856-3768-11e3-ae46-e4248e75c8ea_story.htmlThe official announcement will take place at 2 p.m. Friday at the White House. Johnson, if confirmed by the Senate, would succeed Janet Napolitano, who announced she was leaving the cabinet post in July.
How many more centrist/conservadem hearts is he going to break?
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)k&r
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)I can only think of one worse choice than Ray Kelly.
Let's hope the reaction to this awful choice will be similar to the one re Summers.
It will be good for NYers to get rid of him finally, but terrible for the country.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)to let me know why I should hate him.
Thanks.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Go Liberals!! Keep on speaking out. It works!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)the feelers they put out caused such negative reaction that he will not be the nominee.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)already, better to be sure than sorry. I am very glad at the outrage expressed when his name was even mentioned for any position of power in this government. Hopefully the message has been received in case he is in the running for any other nomination.
Too bad we didn't express the same outrage over Clapper, Right Wing Republican, Bush loyalist, or Comey, or any of the other Republicans who have been appointed to the cabinet of this president.
I don't support Republicans or wanna- be-Republicans like Ray Kelly.
It's interesting that you would post something that you expected would be greeted with outrage.
I am very glad that Liberals have decided to jump the gun from now on, when it comes to these nominations to a Democratic Cabinet. We were far too 'polite', not wanting to give anything to the other side. That was a FAILED strategy. What we got were REPUBLICANS returned to power after we threw them out.
Why did you think that a Ray Kelly nomination would be believable in the first place? Here's why, because it is believable considering the nominations we already have had. Republicans, Monsanto and Wall St Execs not to mention Defense Contractors et al, which is NOT what 'elect Democrats' means.
You OP is very revealing frankly. So thanks for that. I like it when people acknowledge and confirm something people have been pointing out for a long time. So thanks for that.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)There was really no reason to think he was. The Obama/Holder DOJ had criticized the NYPD for its rampant racial profiling.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)was in the running for such a nomination. Obama has expressed opposition to the views of most Republicans eg, yet he nominated so many of them now I have lost count. What makes you think that expressing disagreement with someone on one issue, would have prevented him from nominating Kelly, who at least claims to be Democrat?
Do you think he supports all the views of Comey and Clapper eg? Maybe he does actually, I had not thought of that.
As for Kelly, he heads one of the most corrupt PDs in the country, currently embroiled in so many scandals I have lost count.
And anytime anyone even whispers his name as a potential candidate for anything other than a serious investigation, I will react, in as knee jerk a fashion as possible.
So what was your point with what you obviously thought was a clever 'trick'?
It wasn't, btw, for all the reasons I have already outlined. It was far too likely considering the history here to even think of it as 'not a possibility'. Do you understand that now? I believe you do which is why you posted this. You know it was a serious possibility considering all the others, right? That's what this OP says to me.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)happy that the trial balloons created such a negative reaction just in case the news that he was in the running, was true. It is always good to speak out, as many did, BEFORE it is too late. I have zero problem jumping the gun on someone like that. Better safe than sorry.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Cha
(297,491 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Marvelous.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)No?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)a showstopper.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Al Qaeda is whoever the President decides it is. No review by the courts.
Premeditated execution of citizens with no check or balance.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Particulars, please, direct quotes preferred.
BluegrassStateBlues
(881 posts)War violates the natural order of things, in which children bury their parents; in war parents bury their children, Johnson said in a speech at the Oxford Union last November. In its 12th year, we must not accept the current conflict, and all that it entails, as the new normal.
I guess it doesn't fit the everybody President Obama appoints is a scoundrel narrative.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)elleng
(131,051 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)BluegrassStateBlues
(881 posts)And now he's going to make stop and frisk a national policy.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)doesn't Obama have to get rid of social security first?
Broward
(1,976 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)to he FED.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Well played, geek, well played.