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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts) Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:15 PM Oct 2013

If the 'pugs still want to "negotiate" in February...I say we negotiate THIS stuff

In exchange for getting rid of the "individual mandate" and the "employer mandate", they let us have the public option(OR let us switch the whole thing to single-payer)

In exchange for raising the debt ceiling again, they let the Bush tax cuts for the rich die, they help repeal Taft-Hartley and they let us pass a NEW McCain-Feingold, a NEW Glass-Steagall, and send a constitutional amendment to the states abolishing the Electoral College.

THAT kind of negotiations, I can live with.

You folks in, too?

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If the 'pugs still want to "negotiate" in February...I say we negotiate THIS stuff (Original Post) Ken Burch Oct 2013 OP

We can learn a lot from the way unions negotiate LiberalEsto Oct 2013 #1

Yes stage left Oct 2013 #2

no TPP They_Live Oct 2013 #3

Raise the minimum wage, tax the rich, immigration reform, voter rights, and Bolivarian socialism Coyotl Oct 2013 #4

I'm in ReRe Oct 2013 #5

Cut Defense spending by 10% Heather MC Oct 2013 #6

Only if you replace that spending with infrastructure spending. Sirveri Oct 2013 #11

Tax the crap out of goods flowing from outsourced jobs to where ever Ladesh lonestarnot Oct 2013 #7

If the deficit is so huge, we raise taxes on the rich. krispos42 Oct 2013 #8

The first rule of negotiation is .... Scuba Oct 2013 #9

Yep! This time we don't give annabanana Oct 2013 #10

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)

1. We can learn a lot from the way unions negotiate

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:26 PM

Oct 2013

The general idea is to ask for way more than you really want, and let the company bargain you down.

stage left

(2,962 posts)

2. Yes

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:58 PM

Oct 2013

And a repeal of Citizens United, maybe term limits like the Presidential one, so Politician is not a lifetime career, expansion of Social Security, a repeal of the Patriot Act(The Patriot Act...repeal it is the one bumper sticker on my car), removal of the cap on social security, cuts to the defense budget, and Paul Ryan off any committee planning a budget. For a start.

They_Live

(3,236 posts)

3. no TPP

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:57 PM

Oct 2013

no XL pipeline. raise the minimum wage to $30 hr. end Taxpayer funded subsidies to Oil and energy companies. Outlaw fracking everywhere.

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)

4. Raise the minimum wage, tax the rich, immigration reform, voter rights, and Bolivarian socialism

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:02 PM

Oct 2013

We're negotiable on the Biolivarian socialism

ReRe

(10,597 posts)

5. I'm in

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:18 PM

Oct 2013

Good for starters, anyway.

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)

6. Cut Defense spending by 10%

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:41 PM

Oct 2013

Leave Medicare and SS alone

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)

11. Only if you replace that spending with infrastructure spending.

Reply to Heather MC (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:52 PM

Oct 2013

I'm talk a dollar per dollar transfer. Defense spending provides domestic jobs, the key point is to continue the spending but to direct it towards better uses.