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CK_John

(10,005 posts) Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:36 PM Oct 2013

Bernie Sanders should do something useful and introduce a bill to lower Soc Sec to 50yrs

of age.
As a independent he could cross the isle to get co-sponsors.

This would be a good thing by itself but would also give those trying to cut SS a new front to fight.

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Bernie Sanders should do something useful and introduce a bill to lower Soc Sec to 50yrs (Original Post) CK_John Oct 2013 OP

One of our only lobbyists shouldn't be wasted on orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #1

I do not agree. Social security's purpose is retirement. What should happen though is Medicare for lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #2

What would that accomplish? legcramp Oct 2013 #3

If you over 50 and unemployed your chance of a new job is pretty low. A Soc Sec CK_John Oct 2013 #5

We need to join the civilized world and provide national health care. But the American people have libdem4life Oct 2013 #4

sounds wonderful, I'm exhausted AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #6

Better to reduce the workweek. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #7

Robo devices are replacing whole industries at the speed of light, wakeup CK_John Oct 2013 #8

Okay. To validate that it's only me on the fools errand. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #10

OMG. File that under crazy ideas. Coyotl Oct 2013 #9

Raise the tax rate for the 1% back to Ronnie's time of 75%. CK_John Oct 2013 #11

I don't think the other side wants to negotiate with a Socialist pnwmom Oct 2013 #12

Good, let them lose sleep, most of are allies in the EU are socialist. CK_John Oct 2013 #13

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)

1. One of our only lobbyists shouldn't be wasted on

Reply to CK_John (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:43 PM

Oct 2013

making pigs fly, Lets make corporations pay SS, being they're a person now.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)

2. I do not agree. Social security's purpose is retirement. What should happen though is Medicare for

Reply to CK_John (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:45 PM

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legcramp

(288 posts)

3. What would that accomplish?

Reply to CK_John (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:53 PM

Oct 2013

Do you really think that most people are going to retire at 50 and try to live on a meager SS payment?

CK_John

(10,005 posts)

5. If you over 50 and unemployed your chance of a new job is pretty low. A Soc Sec

Reply to legcramp (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:10 PM

Oct 2013

check would be a great help to regain your prospective. A chance to turn a hobby into a business, a chance to do volunteer work or go back to school. A reason to getup in the morning.

Also this cyber-era only has jobs for 1/2 the population, so it will happen anyway.

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)

4. We need to join the civilized world and provide national health care. But the American people have

Reply to CK_John (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:08 PM

Oct 2013

to demand it. Even Iran has national health care.

I'm reminded of HillaryCare...it had issues to be sure, but it was too far ahead of the/her times. And what was a 50 cent bandaid then probably costs $5 now and gouges the family budget. And exactly what did we get for all of that? Rich CEOs and shareholders and worse health care.

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)

6. sounds wonderful, I'm exhausted

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Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:12 PM

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lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)

7. Better to reduce the workweek.

Reply to CK_John (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:16 PM

Oct 2013

There is a surplus of labor, and the way to absorb it is to constrain the supply. Both lowering the retirement age and reducing the workweek do the same thing in that regard, but losing the knowledge of older workers harms our collective ability. Also, lowering the retirement age forces younger workers to work even harder, spending fewer hours with their families.