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JeffHead

(1,186 posts)
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:54 PM Oct 2013

Boy Scout "leaders" potentially facing felony charges for destroying a rock formation in Utah.

A group of Boy Scout leaders is potentially facing felony charges for destroying a rock formation nearly 200 million years old in Emery County.

The trio of men was adventuring in Goblin Valley State Park when they decided to film themselves knocking over one of the formations, known as "goblins."

One man can be seen leveraging himself against a nearby rock and pushing a formation over.

"We have now modified Goblin Valley," the cameraman crows. "A new Goblin Valley exists with, uh, this boulder down here on the bottom. Muscles here pushed it off."

The three laugh, cheer and high five each other.

Utah State Parks officials Thursday were not so amused.

"It is not only wrong, but there will be consequences," said spokesman Eugene Swalberg, noting that a criminal investigation is underway by the State Parks authorities.

"This is highly, highly inappropriate," he said. "This is not what you do at state parks. It’s disturbing and upsetting."

Park officials said the rock formation was created back in the Jurassic period nearly 200 million years ago.

Deputy Emery County Attorney Brent Langston said he was aware of the incident, but it hasn’t been presented to his office yet for screening for possible charges.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/57012279-78/goblin-rock-valley-state.html.csp






Words cannot describe the stupidity of some people.
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Boy Scout "leaders" potentially facing felony charges for destroying a rock formation in Utah. (Original Post) JeffHead Oct 2013 OP
Goblin Valley was used as a setting in Galaxy Quest. OnyxCollie Oct 2013 #1
It was also used near the end of the movie Sorcerer: kentauros Oct 2013 #9
I never saw Sorcerer, OnyxCollie Oct 2013 #13
It's worth seeing, kentauros Oct 2013 #14
The closest thing to Tangerine Dream doing the soundtrack to The Exorcist OnyxCollie Oct 2013 #15
They should've been listening to this guy, who'd make a helluva scout leader. orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #16
My hero, William S. Burroughs. OnyxCollie Oct 2013 #18
As a fan of both.. sendero Oct 2013 #19
The truck and swaying bridge has become a movie icon, kentauros Oct 2013 #22
they were saving lives: Liberal_in_LA Oct 2013 #2
They made them leaders, and took until May 2013 orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #3
I will donate the equipment and labor to rebuild it Link Speed Oct 2013 #4
You don't play . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #5
Don't. Igel Oct 2013 #7
What? bluesbassman Oct 2013 #10
"natural entropy".... sendero Oct 2013 #20
Three examples: DetlefK Oct 2013 #30
DBH...nt SidDithers Oct 2013 #24
Haha! RiffRandell Oct 2013 #28
The pure idiocy is astounding and jaw dropping. SamYeager Oct 2013 #6
This. And setting such a good example for the scouts. Shrike47 Oct 2013 #11
No kidding. nt RiffRandell Oct 2013 #29
I just want humongous fines for those morons. MineralMan Oct 2013 #25
Fines plus loss of leadership positions. antiquie Oct 2013 #27
I know you arent supposed to judge a book by it's cover Egnever Oct 2013 #8
YouTube brings out the moron in too many poeple. cui bono Oct 2013 #12
And they take movies of themselves doing it, and they post them on the web ... nt bemildred Oct 2013 #17
I just saw this on TV. Sheldon Cooper Oct 2013 #21
Fucking assholes. Paladin Oct 2013 #23
BSA sure has changed since I was in it years ago. Now, damn fools are considered leaders. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2013 #26
The guy who pushed the rock has a personal injury lawsuit (unrelated) 2QT2BSTR8 Oct 2013 #31
Fuck. These idiots must've been trying to earn the Moron badge. 47of74 Oct 2013 #32

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
9. It was also used near the end of the movie Sorcerer:
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:47 PM
Oct 2013


(just a short bit at the end, but there's a little more when you watch the whole movie)


Obviously, these guys didn't read the Boy Scout Handbook, either. Idiots!
 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
13. I never saw Sorcerer,
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:14 AM
Oct 2013

but I remember that scene in the trailer. It freaked me out when I was a kid.

One of my favorite bands, Tangerine Dream, did the soundtrack.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
14. It's worth seeing,
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:32 AM
Oct 2013

whether in the theater or at home. Also, see if you can rent the original French movie, Wages of Fear. It's just as harrowing in the suspense. They are transporting nitroglycerin instead of nitro-leaking dynamite as in Sorcerer.

I remember reading that Friedkin liked Tangerine Dream so much that he lamented not using them for The Exorcist. I do love Mike Oldfield, but sometimes wonder how that movie would have been with Tangerine Dream instead

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
15. The closest thing to Tangerine Dream doing the soundtrack to The Exorcist
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 02:03 AM
Oct 2013

would be Coil doing the soundtrack to Hellraiser.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
19. As a fan of both..
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:48 AM
Oct 2013

... (Tangerine Dream and Mike Oldfield) and also of the movie Sorcerer (few movies have had me in knots like that one, almost glad when it was over I think Oldfields music worked in The Exorcist. I cannot see anything by Tangerine Dream (unmelodic doom-laden sound washes) having the same impact. I remember reading his comments about it and thinking he was nuts. Still do.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
22. The truck and swaying bridge has become a movie icon,
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 08:45 AM
Oct 2013

and rightfully so! It's still highly suspenseful after all these years And no CGI necessary!

I'm a fan of both as well, and I can see certain parts of The Exorcist with TD's music, and other parts with the melodic soundscapes of Oldfield. If Christopher Franke had been doing solo work back then, like he did for Babylon 5, I think he could have pulled off a brilliant soundtrack for the movie, too

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
2. they were saving lives:
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:12 PM
Oct 2013
Taylor said that at the time he thought he was doing a "civic service" by taking down a loose rock. However, as he walked back to his car, he began thinking that he should have contacted a ranger about the loose rock. He also said he wished he could take back his actions.

"Glad we did it, wish we wouldn’t have done it," he said Thursday of his feelings about the incident.

Swalberg said it’s rare for tourists to destroy natural formations.

"Some little kid was about ready to walk down here and die and Glenn saved his life by getting the boulder out of the way," the cameraman says. "So it’s all about saving lives here at Goblin Valley."
 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
3. They made them leaders, and took until May 2013
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:12 PM
Oct 2013

to lift the ' Gay ban ' Hmmmm,,,, Knowing how to start a fire is handy, knowing how to judge people is a valuable tool.

 

Link Speed

(650 posts)
4. I will donate the equipment and labor to rebuild it
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:16 PM
Oct 2013

As long as I am assured that I can place those three fat-asses in the LZ and re-create the scene.

Fuck those shits, they should be staked to the ground at the site and left for example.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
7. Don't.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:41 PM
Oct 2013

They've eroded in the last few million years to be like that, and the erosion continues. A lot have already fallen by themselves.

The one knocked over may have stood for another few years at most or more than 100k years, but in the end, erosion wins. The Himalayas will be plains or sea beds, and some other currently flat portion will soar to 8000 feet or more.

Rebuilding that hoodoo would be like rebuilding the Old Man of the Mountain in New Hampshire. Or the Piedra movediza in Buenos Aires (which they actually did do, entirely for reasons of money).

It's the kind of thing that is really arch-conservative. What is must endure forever, however much things may naturally change, because, dammit, things aren't allowed to change on our watch. For that reason many assume that North America was really wild when the Europeans arrived, because in the 1900s the "wildnerness" areas were really wild (even if in more than a few cases they were farmland in the 1800s). In more than a few cases, we struggle to "preserve" conditions that we only recently created but have romanticized.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
20. "natural entropy"....
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:51 AM
Oct 2013

.... is a fact of existence but we don't have to help out with crowbars.


These dudes need to be punished. In no universe I'm aware of would this be considered acceptable behavior.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
30. Three examples:
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:54 AM
Oct 2013

Buildings erode naturally from wind&weather. Is it okay to hack a brick out of a random building?

Mountains erode naturally from wind&weather. Is it okay to blow them up, so their interiors can be mined?

The moon erodes naturally from solar wind. Let's nuke the shape of a penis into its surface.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
25. I just want humongous fines for those morons.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:28 AM
Oct 2013

Enough to cause them real problems, financially. No need for prison time. Just big-ass fines.

 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
27. Fines plus loss of leadership positions.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:40 AM
Oct 2013

I don't even care about the fines, just stop them from being held as role models for Scouts.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
8. I know you arent supposed to judge a book by it's cover
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:41 PM
Oct 2013

But apparently these tools are just as stupid as they look.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
12. YouTube brings out the moron in too many poeple.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:41 PM
Oct 2013

Why are they always posting "jackass" type videos??? Used to be you didn't want everyone to know how stupid you were.

I fear for our society.

2QT2BSTR8

(354 posts)
31. The guy who pushed the rock has a personal injury lawsuit (unrelated)
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:01 PM
Oct 2013

At the tail end of this FOX news report, the anchor brought up the fact that the idiot who pushed the rock over, had just last month filed a personal injury lawsuit stemming from a 2009 car crash. IMHO if he is in good enough shape to push & topple that formation, it seems to me he could be lying about any current injury he is dealing with. Because it sure doesn't look like he is hurting in the video.

Oh my back hurts! Oh my arms hurt! Oh I am going to push over this several hundred pound rock formation. What a crock of ****.

fast forward to time index 2:44 -

http://fox13now.com/2013/10/17/man-who-toppled-rock-formation-at-goblin-valley-says-formation-was-dangerous/

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