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(15,438 posts)Made me chuckle the moment I saw it.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)I knew Cruz was far to pretty~
Thanks BlueCaliDem.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)babylonsister
(171,070 posts)too accomplished to be associated with that clown.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)Honestly, I had to think about it for a minute to figure out whether it was pro or anti Hillary.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)If you are aware of my posts on the board or the pictures that I have posted of our former SOS Clinton you would know.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)So trust sheshe. A more deserving one you'll never find.
JI7
(89,252 posts)other Dem like Joe Biden and it's the same message.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)sheshe2
(83,791 posts)She was the infiltrator of the baggers, played them like a flute. She was the pied piper and led the rats out of town. They all walked in lock step over the cliff.
They fell and fell hard. I never thought it as an insult to Hillary. They were played perfectly by a master.
Sorry that you felt insulted by that. I didn't vote for her, yet admire her strength. She was the best SOS ever, babylonsister.
Peace~
ecstatic
(32,712 posts)sheshe2
(83,791 posts)spooky3
(34,458 posts)would NEVER do that just to gain political points. So any Dem pictured as having played a part in this must not be a very good person.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)spooky3
(34,458 posts)It portrays Clinton as being the faux Cruz.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)robinlynne
(15,481 posts)IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)It is a little deep, after all.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)sheshe2
(83,791 posts)The repercussions will continue to hurt the economy. I work in commission sales. Our sales tanked in the past two weeks. People are afraid to spend money. This will continue for some time. I have to dig into savings to pay my rent again this month.
So yes this fiasco hurt me and will continue to do so long after the agreement.
The picture was nuanced, the Dems brought the baggers down. The face was Hillary, bless her heart! She/We led the rats out of town. They followed willingly, salivating at the prospect of our caving. We sure as hell didn't.
So spooky, sigh, I sincerely believe that you read the picture wrong. We brought them down and we will keep them down. There is no mention in the picture of any Dem trying to win political points. We won they lost. End of story.
GOTV 2014!
spooky3
(34,458 posts)There are definitely at least two angles on the cartoon. I did not tell you which is the angle that I think is the "right" one. If the cartoon's message were clear, you wouldn't have as many people here saying they don't "get" it or that they interpreted it differently from you. Your interpretation is no more "right" than anyone else's.
I think your sentence of "there is no mention in the picture of any Dem trying to win political points" misses the point entirely. There is no "mention" of anything in the cartoon other than the ambiguous "I knew it." Everything else is communicated by the picture of Clinton appearing to remove a Cruz mask.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)You told IrishAyes that it portrayed Hillary as being faux Cruz, spooky.
babylonsister
(171,070 posts)think she had nothing to do with the teabaggers. It was always all about the black guy.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)I never meant to imply she was working with the baggers. I think the picture, that I found on FB meant they were played by someone far superior both politically and intellectually.
I have the utmost respect for her. She set aside the animosity of the campaign trail, accepted the position that PBO offered her, then went on to be the best SOS we have ever had.
Cha
(297,323 posts)then the ol light bulb went off.
thanks
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)Heather MC
(8,084 posts)I know the thought that Hillary would do something like this is unthinkable. but no one is taking this seriously I hope
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Him or Jackie Chan, having donned a clever disguise in a convoluted interpool sting to recover stolen Qing-dynasty artifacts from an evil british dude, with wacky hijinks along the way!
Coyotl
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IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)I for one liked it very much. Maybe I'm just so pro-Hillary that I'll generally give most things about her a fond glow, even if they might on surface prove somewhat ambiguous.
The primary race between then-Senator Obama and Hillary Clinton was the only time in my long life that I ever had the least bit of trouble choosing a favorite. I loved them equally. Up until the moment I stepped into the voting booth, I had no idea which candidate I'd choose. I stood there frozen for a moment until finally the thought struck me that Hillary had 'loved' me back a lot longer than her rival for my affections had. And it was strictly on that basis that I chose, because there was no other available.
Now of course I'm very glad I got to 'rock with Barack' in the general election. And the next. Maybe it's a form of karma, the universe working things out in its own time. Who could ask for a better president than the one we've got? Nobody with an ounce of brains, far as I'm concerned. I saw something the last few days about a poll indicating a strong probability that Hillary might sweep all 50 states in '16. Sounds like providential timing to me.
Anyway, maybe the point I should've lead off with is that I also know sheshe2's heart. Considering the source, I have no qualms about intent or purpose or suitability, even if some of her other just-as-true friends differ about the effect.
The joke's on Carnival Cruz after all. Anything that pokes fun at him is fine with me!
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)the joke is on Carnival Cruz. He has made us stronger and more determined to beat their collective asses in 2014!
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)We don't need to sharpen our teeth on one another, either, when there are plenty of GOP targets requiring our undivided attention.
If I haven't confessed it before, let me say again: I have been writing letters to various GOP extremists, urging them to break away and form their own third party because so much of America is crying out for such a rescue. I have conveniently forgotten to say I want them to do this because it would be the shortest route to their political annihilation. Now some people might think that's not entirely cricket of me, but I say poppycock! This is war.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Break away. Form your own party. Shortest route to their political destruction!
Irish, you are brilliant! Hey, follow me I'm the pied piper. I will show where it's at! Keep leading them off the cliff Irish.
You go girl~
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)sheshe2
(83,791 posts)It's the long game that gets this done.
Rome was not built in a day, nor will our future. It will be baby steps, then strides. Yet we will get this done Irish. Damn straight we will.
It's about Democracy. It's about what is right for this country.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)but I appreciated it!
I reminded me of this from Ezra Klein over at WonkBlog: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/16/if-ted-cruz-didnt-exist-democrats-would-have-to-invent-him/
It is tough to appreciate just how much good Ted Cruz has done the Democrats over these last few weeks. (snip)
There are no policy concessions from the Democrats (income verification is already part of Obamacare). There are no procedural concessions from the Democrats. Just the opposite, in fact.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Thank you.
I appreciate the link.
But the strategy Ted Cruz managed to force on the GOP was so suicidal that Democrats felt comfortable forcing Republicans to cave completely. They were so confident that they managed to reject a deal proposed by Sen. Susan Collins and supported by many Senate Democrats because it funded the government for longer than the Democratic leadership preferred. That's a level of control over the outcome that Democrats never expected to have.
Going forward, not only will Republicans be afraid to shut down the government or threaten the debt ceiling again during this Congress, but if Republicans somehow end up doing it anyway, Democrats will be unafraid of the fight. As Democrats see it, if Republicans want to give a shutdown or a default another shot closer to the 2014 election, well, that's great news for Democratic congressional candidates.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/16/if-ted-cruz-didnt-exist-democrats-would-have-to-invent-him/
Raine~
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)<--- everyone in the (D) party.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)Surprised people are reading this as anti-Hillary. To me, it's just anti-Ted Cruz. (Basically that only someone who wanted to undermine Republicans and Conservatives would do what he's done)
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)sheshe2
(83,791 posts)As for Cruz and the baggers.
You sig line says it all!