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Grayson is a loose cannon. (Original Post) Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 OP
lol.. we need more cannons DontTreadOnMe Oct 2013 #1
One shot of unvarnished truth from Grayson Plucketeer Oct 2013 #43
K&R! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2013 #2
Good observation... pangaia Oct 2013 #3
Love him he takes no shit! haikugal Oct 2013 #4
I wonder how many people who use that phrase know what it originally meant? Fumesucker Oct 2013 #5
I know its literal meaning. Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #8
you coud have be hoisted by your own petard Like Ted Cruz Ellipsis Oct 2013 #69
Haha funny. dkf Oct 2013 #6
yes, he is, in a good way =) n/t KarenS Oct 2013 #7
Cannons are what we need. We need about two hundred loose cannons sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #9
Loose Democratic Cannons ARE what we need more of.... ReRe Oct 2013 #63
Yes, wow, can you imagine 250 Graysons in Congress? He's NEVER hesitated sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #65
Democrats have swayed too far to the right... ReRe Oct 2013 #68
I find myself agreeing with everything he has to say, and being glad he said it NBachers Oct 2013 #10
If you watched his "Dog Poop" speech kmlisle Oct 2013 #12
I seen him do that... ReRe Oct 2013 #20
To Paraphrase Captain Mal Reynolds of Firefly: Leith Oct 2013 #11
Let's make sure he doesn't get "cancelled" like that wonderful show! RVN VET Oct 2013 #38
And he's got more balls than most everybody else mindwalker_i Oct 2013 #13
I love the clip of him reading poll results, especially the one comparing winter is coming Oct 2013 #14
Yup, there's a nugget of truth in that one mindwalker_i Oct 2013 #15
He was great on Al's show today. Paraphrasing: ecstatic Oct 2013 #16
Yeah, but he's our loose cannon. pscot Oct 2013 #17
K&R DeSwiss Oct 2013 #18
Fire the Cannons! Nanjing to Seoul Oct 2013 #19
not really, Biden is more of a loose cannon JI7 Oct 2013 #21
He definitely impresses blue14u Oct 2013 #22
Dream Team Scuba Oct 2013 #29
No doubt about that madokie Oct 2013 #50
That is one ticket I would love to see. think4yourself Oct 2013 #31
I agree is would be a good ticket, but I would rather he be in the Senate. nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #67
But he is so MEAN nikto Oct 2013 #23
That just makes him a canon, lol grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #24
He's my favorite cannon! No one tells it better B Calm Oct 2013 #25
Love Grayson. We need more like him. nt DLevine Oct 2013 #26
As long as he stays away from nazi analogies mucifer Oct 2013 #27
Kicked and Recommended! nt Enthusiast Oct 2013 #28
Kick. Thanks Jackpine. Scuba Oct 2013 #30
He's OUR loose cannon. . .and a "Happy Warrior". . . DinahMoeHum Oct 2013 #32
I like to think of Congressman Grayson as perfectly "Trumanesque" Laelth Oct 2013 #33
Thanks for the great Truman quote. CrispyQ Oct 2013 #52
My pleasure. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #53
Some loose cannons are pretty cool... yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #34
More Graysons, please. ancianita Oct 2013 #35
I love how direct and unpretentious Rep. Grayson is. nt Zorra Oct 2013 #36
For those who are interested in the video of the speech; greiner3 Oct 2013 #37
He sometimes scares me, but he scares the Tepublicans all the time. Like only three or ..... marble falls Oct 2013 #39
Kay and Arr. n/t L0oniX Oct 2013 #40
...and I hope that they never tighten the lugnuts! NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #41
Our Party needs Alan Grayson in the Congress. kentuck Oct 2013 #42
and i love him! librechik Oct 2013 #44
If DU elected the president it would be Grayson, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren or Dennis Kucinich Rowdyboy Oct 2013 #45
I think Kucinich has sorta passed his "Use By" date. Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #47
I think so but I'll bet you could find a few of the faithful here.... Rowdyboy Oct 2013 #58
A true bad-ass! CrispyQ Oct 2013 #46
Breaking Bad Alan Iwillnevergiveup Oct 2013 #49
Breaking Bad Alan CrispyQ Oct 2013 #51
It's called Cahones HoosierCowboy Oct 2013 #48
Boxes? Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #57
thank god beachbum bob Oct 2013 #54
He's not presidential material. But I'm glad he's on my side. And I'm glad he's from Florida. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #55
He is absolutely Presidential material. More so than anyone I've seen sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #70
I would love to see a Warren/Grayson ticket in 2016 OnlinePoker Oct 2013 #56
I Prefer The Graysons to Neo Liberals Like Dick Durbin. colsohlibgal Oct 2013 #59
I've often felt that way about Mr. Grayson Skittles Oct 2013 #60
Destroyer of illusion dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #61
My favorite Alan Grayson quote is... red dog 1 Oct 2013 #62
Thanks for making me smile... slor Oct 2013 #64
We need more "loose Cannons" just like him! emsimon33 Oct 2013 #66

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
5. I wonder how many people who use that phrase know what it originally meant?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:26 PM
Oct 2013

Always ends up giving me an image of Nelson holding the telescope to his blind eye, "Turning a blind eye".

Sorry, read too much swashbuckling fiction as a youngster.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
69. you coud have be hoisted by your own petard Like Ted Cruz
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:40 PM
Oct 2013


"Gentlemen, when the enemy is committed to a mistake we must not interrupt him too soon." -Horatio Nelson

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
9. Cannons are what we need. We need about two hundred loose cannons
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:35 PM
Oct 2013

like Grayson and there would be no TP morons taking this country hostage. He doesn't compromise with idiots, never did which is why I love him.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
63. Loose Democratic Cannons ARE what we need more of....
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:22 PM
Oct 2013
... I say about 230 of 'em. In the House. About 65 of them in the Senate. It would be a great way to drag the left back over to the left side of the middle line where it belongs. And a great way to get our country back on it's feet again. We've been trending to the right for way too long... we need a major wheel-alignment.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
65. Yes, wow, can you imagine 250 Graysons in Congress? He's NEVER hesitated
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 07:00 PM
Oct 2013

to point out strongly the lies and deceptions of the radicals, the Corporatists, the corrupt, in Congress. We so need more like him. But there seems to be some resistance to this kind of Democrat among the leadership in the party for some reason. Which is all the more reason why I respect him. He was targeted during the 2010 election by the Far Right/Koch Bros contingency with millions of dollars. I don't recall the party coming to his aid. But, he bounced right back, on his own it seems and that gives me hope that people with the kind of spirit he has CAN do it without the Corporate influences so many of them now rely on.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
68. Democrats have swayed too far to the right...
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:28 PM
Oct 2013

... that's what their problem is. They go along to get along. They are afraid to rock the boat. Money, Money, Money, Money. That's why this country is in the shape it is. With Democrats like them and a bought and paid for coroporate news media....well, here we are. I just am very very thankful for Alan Grayson, even though he is not my Representative. He is a true Democratic voice out there.

kmlisle

(276 posts)
12. If you watched his "Dog Poop" speech
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:44 PM
Oct 2013

on the house floor to the end it is amazing what he is trying to do. As he was trying to invoke a rule that allows members the privilege to bring up a bill if the house is deadlocked, as they were. However the rules had been changed as we now know Before the shutdown started. another words they planned it! and so he was not able to bring up the clean CR from the senate. Of course Loose Dog Poop would be problematic!

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
20. I seen him do that...
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:29 AM
Oct 2013

... cool as a cucumber. The man never raises his voice, never gets rattled. He'd do great in a Presidential debate.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
11. To Paraphrase Captain Mal Reynolds of Firefly:
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:40 PM
Oct 2013

He may be a loose cannon, but he's our loose cannon.

Let's stand with him all the way.

RVN VET

(492 posts)
38. Let's make sure he doesn't get "cancelled" like that wonderful show!
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:29 AM
Oct 2013

And I agree: Grayson is brilliant at shoving it right back at the bad guys (yes, the GOP = "bad guys&quot . We need more like him in the House and Senate, and more voters who will get out in 2014 to vote for more like him.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
14. I love the clip of him reading poll results, especially the one comparing
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:47 PM
Oct 2013

the popularity of Congress and dog poop.

blue14u

(575 posts)
22. He definitely impresses
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 01:32 AM
Oct 2013

me!!!

I love Warren for 2016, so a possible

Warren/Grayson ticket would win win WIN!!!

think4yourself

(837 posts)
31. That is one ticket I would love to see.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 07:35 AM
Oct 2013

Substance, sense and spine. America would really respond well to that.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
23. But he is so MEAN
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 01:59 AM
Oct 2013

He says mean, blunt things to Republicans and rightwingers and
hurts their feelings and makes them cry, mommy!

DinahMoeHum

(21,794 posts)
32. He's OUR loose cannon. . .and a "Happy Warrior". . .
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 08:09 AM
Oct 2013

. . .loves the sport of getting in there and punching at the GOP.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
33. I like to think of Congressman Grayson as perfectly "Trumanesque"
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 08:10 AM
Oct 2013

As Truman would say:

I never gave anybody hell. I just told the truth and they think it's hell.

As quoted in My Fellow Americans : The Most Important Speeches of America's Presidents (2003) by Michael Waldman, p. 137


I also like this one. It sums up the idea behind liberalism quite nicely:

All of you, I am sure, have heard many cries about Government interference with business and about "creeping socialism." I should like to remind the gentlemen who make these complaints that if events had been allowed to continue as they were going prior to March 4, 1933, most of them would have no businesses left for the Government or for anyone else to interfere with — and almost surely we would have socialism in this country, real socialism.

Harry Truman in Detroit (14 May 1950), as recorded in Good Old Harry.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman




-Laelth
 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
37. For those who are interested in the video of the speech;
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:26 AM
Oct 2013
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/09/alan-grayson-dog-poop_n_4073387.html

Some quotes of Alan's from the speech;

"...a crisis from one of the most powerful nations on Earth and by the way THAT'S STILL US."

A newspaper (I didn't catch which one) ran a poll in which it asked which do you have a higher opinion of;

Congress 32% Witches 45%

Congress 31% Hemorrhoids 53%

Congress 40% Dog Poop 47%

Congress 41% Toe Nail Fungus 44%

Congress 36% Potholes 47%

Congress 37% Zombies 43%

I think the last should have approached 100%, for zombies (but one could say a lot of Congress Critters may be considered in this category.

The Chair was occupied by Steve Womack, a SC Critter who was lost by Alan's repeated questions as to why he was continually challenged by, well I sort of got lost during all this back and forth, but it is very entertaining to see Alan at his best(?).

While the video is 14 minutes, Alan's time is about half that.



marble falls

(57,106 posts)
39. He sometimes scares me, but he scares the Tepublicans all the time. Like only three or .....
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:37 AM
Oct 2013

four others in Congress he represents the American people only.

kentuck

(111,103 posts)
42. Our Party needs Alan Grayson in the Congress.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:33 AM
Oct 2013

Someone that will speak up and challenge the right-wing machine that tends to dominate debate and discussions.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
45. If DU elected the president it would be Grayson, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren or Dennis Kucinich
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:30 AM
Oct 2013

Sadly for us, we're a tiny minority of a huge party.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
58. I think so but I'll bet you could find a few of the faithful here....
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:41 PM
Oct 2013

Al Gore still has supporters here and, after 13 years, he's made it very clear he isn't running again. I didn't intentionally leave off Howard Dean either even though he's just as unlikely to run. That would make an interesting poll-who would you vote for as president if you could have anyone regardless of their viability or interest.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
46. A true bad-ass!
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:04 PM
Oct 2013

But he looks even badder with a beard. Wish he'd grow it back!



Would you mess with this man?

HoosierCowboy

(561 posts)
48. It's called Cahones
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:37 PM
Oct 2013

Is what the guy has got in spades. Something apparently missing in the mainstream party. The ability to say something stinks when you smell a dirty diaper...and the guy can do it in such a pleasant way without raising anyones' bloodpressure
Fire away Big Al, we'll pass the ammunition.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
57. Boxes?
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:20 PM
Oct 2013

What do boxes have to do with it?

Anyway, in case you meant "cojones," I deplore the equating of courage with male genitalia.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
55. He's not presidential material. But I'm glad he's on my side. And I'm glad he's from Florida.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 01:40 PM
Oct 2013

Here in Florida, we get enough grief about our disproportionately uber-red legislature and governor. So it's refreshing to know there is at least one dyed in the wool liberal in our Congressional delegation.

People liked to compare him with Allen West, categorizing them both as partisan bomb throwers. However, the undeniable difference between the two: Grayson, unlike West, fact checks before opening his mouth.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
70. He is absolutely Presidential material. More so than anyone I've seen
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:53 PM
Oct 2013

over the past decade. He is fearless for one thing, he is INDEPENDENT and NEVER backs down or compromises with Republicans when they are wrong. He is relentless when he believes in something, and there is nothing wishy washy about him when he has something to say. THAT is what need for leadership, enough of the compromising, 'let's all get along' and 'the moral equivalency vagueness' we hear from the current leadership.

Grayson calls out those who are responsible, he never tries to tie Dems to Repubs with the abhorrent 'both sides do it' lie.

He would be a Democratic Teddy Roosevelt type of president. Gruff with those who deserve it, funny, informed, and FIRM.

Now that I think of it, I am going to root for him to run. I know the DLC wing of the party won't want him to run, which makes him all the more desirable as far as I am concerned.

OnlinePoker

(5,722 posts)
56. I would love to see a Warren/Grayson ticket in 2016
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 01:40 PM
Oct 2013

It's really time to shake up the establishment in the U.S.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
59. I Prefer The Graysons to Neo Liberals Like Dick Durbin.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:11 PM
Oct 2013

Anyone whining about the "professional left", like Obama basically did the other day, should read JFK's famous "if by liberal you mean" speech over and over.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
60. I've often felt that way about Mr. Grayson
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:41 PM
Oct 2013

but as time goes on, it seems like loose cannons are becoming an asset in this extremely tipped playing field

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
61. Destroyer of illusion
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:46 PM
Oct 2013

One of the wrathful deities, with some of the most wicked eyebrows on earth. To Republicans he must look like the Dire Wolf. K & R for Grayson.

We really should send someone like Grayson or Warren (there may be others) up against the DLC types in the POTUS Dem primary. The party needs to have a discussion about what it stands for. I think once the people start hearing the truth, the snowball will start rolling downhill.

red dog 1

(27,820 posts)
62. My favorite Alan Grayson quote is...
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:06 PM
Oct 2013

"I have trouble listening to what Dick Cheney says sometimes, because of the blood that drips from his teeth while he's talking."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2010/01/best-quotes-alan-grayson/

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