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cali

(114,904 posts)
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:29 AM Oct 2013

Labor puts Dems on notice: Don’t touch Medicare and Social Security benefits

With the crisis chatter in Washington now turning to speculation about the coming budget talks and the possibility of a “grand bargain” to replace the sequester, liberals and unions are getting increasingly nervous that Congressional Dems will give up entitlement benefits cuts in exchange for, well, whatever is on offer from Republicans, which isn’t at all clear.

In an interview, Damon Silvers, the policy director of the AFL-CIO, laid down a hard line, putting Dems on notice that any agreement that cuts entitlement benefits — even in a deal that includes GOP concessions on tax hikes — is a nonstarter. Silvers strongly suggested labor would withhold support in 2014 from any Dem lawmaker who supports such a deal.

“We are opposed to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid benefits cuts. Period,” Silvers told me. “There will be no cover for members of either party who vote for such a thing.”

Silvers said the AFL-CIO also opposes the entitlements cuts in the President’s budget, such as Chained CPI and a form of Medicare means testing. It’s unclear how, or whether, those will figure in what Dems bring to the table in the budget talks, which are mandated by the deal just reached to end the crisis.

“Chained CPI is like the vampire of American politics,” Silvers said. “It keeps being shot through the heart and it keeps reviving. The reason it keeps coming back is because it has billionaires behind it.”

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/10/17/labor-puts-dems-on-notice-dont-touch-medicare-and-social-security-benefits/

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Labor puts Dems on notice: Don’t touch Medicare and Social Security benefits (Original Post) cali Oct 2013 OP
People will never forget who cut their Social Security and Medicare. jsr Oct 2013 #1
The best we can hope for is that the sane billionaires win Fumesucker Oct 2013 #2
I am getting a 404 error from your link. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #5
Odd, Google search finds it and clicking on it gets you there Fumesucker Oct 2013 #6
Your link above is missing the "l" at the end of "html" Laelth Oct 2013 #8
no kidding. . . . .n/t annabanana Oct 2013 #7
It would be a huge mistake to cut either one of these programs. B Calm Oct 2013 #3
k&r for labor. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #4
I am no longer a card carrying union member, Enthusiast Oct 2013 #9
If the Democratic Party is saddled with the Enthusiast Oct 2013 #10
Read the red graphic .... Scuba Oct 2013 #11
We do not need to stand with the president on this. Jakes Progress Oct 2013 #12
We still have unions? Who knew? LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #13
Union member here Omaha Steve Oct 2013 #14

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
2. The best we can hope for is that the sane billionaires win
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:27 AM
Oct 2013
http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/002508.htm

Almost all political conflict, especially in the US, boils down to a fight between the Sane Billionaires and the Insane Billionaires. It generally follows this template:

INSANE BILLIONAIRES: Let's kill everyone and take their money!

SANE BILLIONAIRES: I like the way you think. I really do. But if we keep everyone alive, and working for us, we'll make even more money, in the long term.

INSANE BILLIONAIRES: You communist!!!

So from a progressive perspective, you always have to hope the Sane Billionaires win. Still, there's generally a huge chasm between what the Sane Billionaires want and what progressives want.l

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
6. Odd, Google search finds it and clicking on it gets you there
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:13 AM
Oct 2013

But the direct link doesn't work for me either..

Try the first result at this Google search..

https://www.google.com/#q=sane+billionaires+vs+insane+billionaires&safe=on

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
3. It would be a huge mistake to cut either one of these programs.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:31 AM
Oct 2013

Now if they want to touch them by making them better, I don't have a problem with that.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
9. I am no longer a card carrying union member,
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:47 AM
Oct 2013

but I am 100% with them. There are too many better alternatives than bleeding people in need. Especially in light of the fact that social security has been more than adequately funded.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
10. If the Democratic Party is saddled with the
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:55 AM
Oct 2013

'cutters of social security and medicare' title, it is done. The social safety net is the Democratic Party's greatest achievement.

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