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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTed Cruz could indeed win the Republican nomination
I know that lots of people don't believe that, but I sure do. Why? The Republican base, McCain and Romney. The Republican base votes. It has lots of teabaggers and teabagger types in it. Two so-called moderates (and holy shit, they are beginning to look like moderates compared to the the Cruz-Lee types) that lost, have convinced the out of touch republican base that they lost because they were two moderate. And who, in the Republican party will run against Cruz? Rubio? Rand? How much better are they? Can you think of a single non batshit wingnut who will run for the repub nomination? Jebbie? I don't see it. Republican Governors? Chris Christie? The base loathes him and the base votes in primaries. I don't believe there is any way that someone like Christie or Jeb can be nominated with how the base is currently constituted. There would have to be a complete blood bath.
From Michael Tomasky over at the Daily Beast:
Did you catch Ted Cruzs numbers in that Pew poll that came out this week? You may not have, because there were a few other things going on. So take a guess as to his favorable ratings among Tea Party people. I can tell you that 18 percent expressed no opinion, so the numbers add up to 82. So, 65-17, 68-14? Could he possibly have topped 70?
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Hell spend the rest of 2014 guiding the Tea Party like Columbus on the Santa Maria. Rand Paul will be back there on the Niña, and farther back, Marco Rubio on the Pinta, straining to catch enough wind to keep up. But everyone will know whos holding the compass.
The elections will be crucial. If the GOP loses control of the House because of perceived Tea Party looniness, Cruz will be blamed and held accountable. As for the Senate, itll be just slightly more nuanced. Were seeing now that all these Tea Party people are going to challenge establishment Republicans. If some of them win their primaries but lose the general to a Democratif, say, Nancy Mace, the Citadel grad, beats Lindsey Graham but then loses in the general, giving South Carolina its first non-racist Democratic senator since Fritz Hollings, whos probably the only non-racist Democratic senator the state has ever hadCruz will, again, be blamed and held accountable. But say Mace wins, and a few others do too, even if the GOP doesnt take control of the Senate. And say the Republicans hold the House. Thats a slightly ambiguous result. But any ambiguous result is easy for a demagogue to spin into a great victory. Its precisely the kind of thing demagogues do best.
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If the results a year from now dont give the establishment the excuse it needs to bury him, Cruz will be off to the races. And then, Armageddon will come. To whom will the establishment hand the silver cross and vial of holy water? Chris Christie? Jeb Bush? South Dakota Senator John Thune, who offends no one (not yet, anyway) and who quietly voted for the deal to reopen the government and avoid default?
This will be a war. And it just might be a war the extremists will win. Establishments have power and money, and it is true that Republican voters have typically, after all the noise, gone in the establishment direction (McCain, Romney). But the insurgents have been advancing the beachhead, and unless theyre pushed back once and for all, its only a matter of time. But an epic battle looms. I cry for what these maniacs are doing to my country, but at the same time I plan on enjoying every minute of it.
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/18/the-ted-cruz-armageddon-is-coming.html
B Calm
(28,762 posts)so it's a very good possibility!
cali
(114,904 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)They would have preferred Santorum or Huckabee or someone that they viewed as their own.
So I don't think Romney or McCain are an apt comparison.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)like Santorum or Huckabee. There are just too many staunch, conservative rightwingers who are pissed off with Ted Cruz. Even before the most recent fiasco - he has made way too many enemies.
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)It would result in a 60-40 win for whoever is the Dem nominee.
45 states. 450 electoral votes.
Biggest Dem win since 1964.
Jawja
(3,233 posts)Like 2000 and 2004 and then we're in deep $% if Cruz becomes President.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Capitalist power is not going to allow someone who is prepared to destroy American capitalism out of principle.
cali
(114,904 posts)and might even lead to big changes in the puke party.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Senator Cruz' recent behavior suggests he thinks it's possible too.
-Laelth
rock
(13,218 posts)to the pit from which they may scrape out a contender.
SamYeager
(309 posts)I, for one, thought the American people would never be stupid enough to elect George W. Bush.
I now no longer underestimate the complete stupidity the American people can demonstrate on occasion.
librechik
(30,674 posts)and they cheat. It's anybody's guess who they'll pick, since they have nobody but losers on their side. But my bet Cruz won't get the votes. He'll be there in the primaries (they'll need to plump up their short bench) but not for long.