Where are you from, by the way. Let's see how incident free your region is.

Florida is a mess of a place. I never claimed anywhere else is perfect. You can't deny a lot fucked up shit comes out of Florida.

got it

I concede fucked up shit happens all over. I still think Florida is fucked up. I grew up in the south, rural NC, and have lived in many places including CA, MN, DC and MA.

I have no interest in living anywhere in the south ever again. If I didn't still have family in the south, I wouldn't consider traveling there now.

so . . . where do you live? what are you hiding? what are you afraid of disclosing?

or should we start with Cal ( I know that one quite well as I did my graduate work there), Minn (home of my favorite congresswoman nitwit Michele Marie), DC (where to start) or Ma (plenty there).

It's none of your business. By all means, run wild, and point out how fucked up everywhere is. I would say this country as a whole is.

This is one fucked up place. But Florida really takes the cake on the regularity and bizarreness of stories. I don't really have an attachment to any place or seek to defend it or hold it out as better than another. If you want to do that with FL, knock yourself out.

It is pro-women's rights. The catholic judges like Scalia and Thomas vote based on their religious beliefs not based on the law. This is the problem. But you know that. And this thread is not about Catholic judges anyway.

Strange hobby you have. I guess things are slow in FL.

Nothing against them personally. Hey bud, get a new hobby.

Bye "doctor".

generalization of the entire state is uncalled for. I am biracial, born in Germany and have live all around the world. Yet I this is one of the finest places one could ever live.

Where are all the attacks on DC, Michigan, Chicago, California, etc. I guess nothing ever happens in those places.

Or at least Chicago attacks not reported by the MSM. They are considered bad for tourist business and business generally.

Reports can be found from time to time on a Chicago-related web site, however.

License for people. This is unusual and until its repealed its yours unfortunately.

Why does Florida produce so much weird news? Our experts explain.

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See, that’s the thing about Florida. It’s not that we have a lock on all the weirdness. Human nature guarantees that weird things can happen anywhere. What sets Florida apart is that it produces more weird news than anywhere else, and our weird news tends to be weirder than anyone else's. No other state is going to have a guy who faked a python rescue. No sir.

That’s why, in 2001, administrators for the snarky website Fark.com approved a tag for news items from Florida, the only state so honored. “Other states have odd stories come out of them, but no state can challenge Florida,” a Fark.com administrator said in 2011. “It’s the heavyweight champion of weirdness.”

How did Florida become the Go-To State for Weird? I consulted a number of experts, including historian Gary Mormino, author of Land of Sunshine, State of Dreams. Some folks think the rise of weirdness in Florida started with the 2000 presidential election, which guaranteed no parent would ever again name a newborn boy Chad. But Mormino contends it began long before that, as far back as the 1920s when unscrupulous hucksters were pulling wacky stunts to sell swampland to Yankees. The national news first began noticing this aspect of Florida in the 1980s, when cocaine cowboys were tearing up South Florida and Time magazine’s cover asked if the state was “Paradise Lost?” Now we’ve got all the aggregators jumping on the Florida weird-news bandwagon, collecting clicks with our craziness. How does Florida maintain this constant flow of cuckoo? A few factors combine to help explain it:

More:
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/florida/features/2013/oh_florida/what_makes_florida_weird_weather_people_tourists_foliage_greed.html

I used to go to 1980s Miami in the winter every year for excitement.

It reminded me of Saigon right before Tet 1968

Hardly anyone you would run into spoke English

The homeless living under free ways in card board boxes

Rampant public urination by numerous intoxicated men and women

Every other car was either a Mercedes, Rolls, Ferrari or other extreme luxury car.

The rest of the cars were beat up junkers, that smoked oil and barely ran

It was warm and humid in the morning and a fog of exhaust choked the city

The smell of dead fish and rotting garbage washing up on shore

Boats touting gambling crowding the waterfront

Palm trees swaying in the Breeze

From the open hotel window at night the sound of Gunfire emanated from Liberty City

Pan handlers and squeegee men prowling the streets

The only thing missing were sand bag barriers in front of stores, hotels and restaurants

It was inexpensive if one was careful, exciting, unexpectedly dangerous and a reminder of my adventurous days of fighting for freedom in a foreign land and helping eliminate Kommunists and other anti-democratic peasants.

As I became older Miami became much more expensive and almost tediously going upscale for the uber rich

there's only so much habitable land inside the Bermuda Triangle. SoFla has a particular concentration (partly why I left).

I have lived in Kansas, Missouri, Texas, Colorado, California, West Virginia, Florida, Nebraska as well as 10 years abroad (in three different countries),

EVERYWHERE has its share of weirdness. EVERYWHERE has its share of sane, intelligent, good people.

To label the residents of one particular state as being "f*****d up" is NOTHING short of bigotry.

I agree - there are some bizarre stories emanating from my state. But we could certainly start a "column of weird news" from each state in the U.S. No one is immune.

Accusations of bigotry should be reserved for actual acts of bigotry. It loses its meaning when tossed around so casually in an effort to "win" the internet battle.

You'd think he works for the Florida tourist agency.

What a bunch.

You from Florida? If so your posts are just confirming how weird people from Florida can be

Creepy also works

It just doesn't make the news like Florida does.

You're hilarious.

definitely a type of bigotry.

I said the place seems fucked up. And it does.

not the climate, or the environment, or the terrain

you are calling the people "f****d up"

just admit it . . . and share with us the heaven you call home

I said, "No fucking way!"

That place is so fucked up.

From the age of 5, I lived there most of my life. Finally, in 1989, I decided to get out of that hell hole of a state. I now live in the Atlanta area, but I am much happier despite it being a red state.

I live here but I will also tell you that it really does seem like all the nuts roll down to Florida.

Mostly I take solace in the fact that by the time most of these nuts roll down here from some other place they are old and won't be here long - and at least in Florida most of the old south mind set racists that didn't roll in from other places are dying off at a much faster rate then they can be replaced.

Personally, I always like the thought of selling them some land in the everglades and let all the alligators and non-native snakes eat them.

Rural most every where in the US is where you find a good chunk of the bagger, racist, good christan, bigot types. And we got a lot of rural areas down here. But the stories do seem more crazy when they come from Florida. But I still like it here and I am not moving.

relocate there to begin anew. Instead of changing their lives, they bring their dysfunctional shit to the state.

(I love my home state, but Floriduh it is!)

Not that there was even a job for them to do here.

I think it fair to give me a chance to tear yours down.

Just saying...

It is so unuseful to paint in such broad strokes as to sound like a bigot.

Actually, no, it doesn't. Not at all.

a person's mind based on some superficial attribute, be it the state they reside, the clothes they wear, the job they have, etc. IS BIGOTRY.

In my idea of how this SHOULD have played out.... I see a naked man running down the road. I call the local police. They stop the man, find out that his clothes were stolen as a prank and give him a ride home.

Unfortunately, throw in a hot-head with a gun and you get a dead father.

people who walk around with guns are a lot "braver" and more confrontational than they would otherwise be. Take away their guns and they would be so brave. Time to start confiscating guns.

The shooter did step down to investigate much like Zimmerman did. Frankly, I think this should nullify that defense, but, this is Florida.

I can absolutely see a situation where a passerby sees a naked man running through the streets. He stops out of concern, either for the guy or the public at large and the naked guy (for whatever reason mental illness, anger, drugs etc...) attacks him and is killed.

The act of investigation was made in good faith and in no way should take away his legal protections.

You see, he can still be protected under a self defense defense. But I think the SYG should be null and void when the attacker can no longer say, "There I was, minding my own business."

Thank you for stating "There I Was, Minding My Own Business".

I would have to agree with you.

asserted without evidence.

Hypothetical scenario in which a person would not deserve, ethically or legally, to lose his SYG protection.

You seem awfully anxious to jump on someone so next time read through it more carefully before you start complaining and accusing.

So any "good guy with a gun" should have been able to shoot these streakers? People back then used to LAUGH at streakers, not confront, and shoot them.

All this SUNSHINE fries people's brains in the state of Florida. I will stay inside my house and go out as little as possible in the Gunshine State, thank you very much.

I feel so sorry for this young man and his family. This should never have happened. ARREST the shooter, and take away his right to own a gun. He is a danger to society.

but my first thought would be that the naked person had been a victim of some sort and needed the police's help. I can't imagine why anyone would stop a car and shoot someone who obviously had no weapon.

See my post, #28.

or do you know something you're not sharing? What weapon did he have?

He had to die because he was naked? Why can't a person just call the police instead of shooting someone when they aren't in obvious danger? Guns seem to make too many people think that they should try to control any situation they see whether it is a threat to them or not.

between the two men that resulted in the shooting. There's very little information in the article. Jandei Cherry was likely pretty pissed off when the guy stopped.

know? What happened before is irrelevant; it didn't involve the shooter.

That we know. Absolutely no excuse for that. None. Jesus Christ!

"he must have done *something* to deserve it!"

I made no such speculation. We don't know means we don't know, not "he must have done *something* to deserve it!"

I've butted heads countless times with the Zimmerman lovers here, so I already know their mindset...

or are you assuming that he was? Got a quote and a link? I like to stick to the facts.

And since he was naked it would have been difficult to hide a weapon. Pretty simple really.

The absence of a weapon being mentioned doesn't prove anything one way or the other. And, if he had one, why would it need to be hidden?

and again, no mention of a weapon found on or near the dead man. Not even skittles this time.

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2013-10-14/news/fl-naked-man-shot-hollywood-20131014_1_hollywood-boulevard-naked-man-quarterdeck

but left his gun and knife.

/sarcasm

See post 106. Excuse me for wanting actual facts.

His clothes and skateboard were stolen and he was running naked. If he'd been running naked carrying a gun, that would have been in the headline.

The OP and the link in it didn't say. Anything was possible between the beach and the shooting a mile away. Common sense says don't assume.

Wanting, and waiting for, more facts is not proclaiming anyone innocent. For some, it seems that jumping to conclusions should be mandatory here.

If some guy is running down the street naked and you are in your car....

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU GO CONFRONT HIM?

You are safe. He is doing nothing to you, and not doing any physical harm to anyone else. Call the police, and let them sort it out.

That is why this driver is monumentally stupid, and demonstrates that he can not handle owning a weapon. But the same culture that produces SYG laws says that he's gotta be a big man and intervene in everyone else's business, just in case.

the facts are usually pretty easy to discern in this case

For some, guns NEVER kill people. Just all smoke and mirrors.

to more outrageous and heinous crimes. I would say this, no one in Fla is ever surprised by danger, it is a given. We know where we are. That still does not change the fact way too many people result to pulling their brand new shiny revolver to settle disputes. My heartfelt condolences to this man and his family.

Yet FL seems to have a lot more "wacky" stories ending in violence than the 3 states with larger population.

coming from NY, CA or TX.

It's rather hilarious that you are claiming an anti-Florida bias is responsible for these stories.

or even stop them. Growing up in NYC and riding subways, I have seen people walking around with snakes around their necks, a birdcage with a parrot inside on top of his head, and a man in a pink tutu, crown on his head, dancing through subway cars. That is all I can think of off the top of my head right now. Sure there were others. Nobody confronted them, or shot them. You look the other way. Who are they hurting??????

In Florida, if some person doesn't like you or what you are doing, they feel it is their right as a gunner, to shoot, and use the SYG as an excuse that their lives were threatened.

Florida.

Mixed with gay panic defense? "I was threatened by his nudity so I shot him."

when I read, "It is not normal for someone to be running naked down Hollywood Boulevard" I thought, "Sure it is!" But then again, I was going by California standards.

Seriously, there are too many Gomers who envision themselves as modern-day Rambos who own guns and are just itching to find any excuse to use them. Florida seems to accept any old excuse. "He's lookin' at me!" BLAM!

I can't help thinking here in California the naked man would be more likely shot by smartphone than a gun. The shooter passed him by, then went back.

My husband would like to see the Keys some day, but I'm not sure it's safe to set foot in that state.

and that this was a "good shoot"?

and that Laguerre shouldn't be charged, much less arrested and tried??

I'm anxious to know their thoughts on this...

that the motorist stopped to investigate..the motorist is scum, and if he had any concerns, contact the police, just another POS who had a gun and felt invincible and violent.

I'd stop and ask him what was going on. Then, I'd take off my shirt and give it to him to tie around his waist and give him a ride to wherever it was that he was going. I'd do the same for a naked woman, too.

I can't think of any other action that would be appropriate. I wouldn't call the cops. I'd stop and see what I could do to help. Only if the person seemed to be mentally ill or otherwise impaired would I call the cops.

Just help.

And anything exposed would be so shrunken as to not be alarming.

Here in Minnesota, there would be a risk of not only shrinkage, but droppage, during part of the year.

and yes it's worse in Florida because the justice there is still coming from 1860.

let me know if I'm wrong, but with a name like Duke (and the victim's identity) I think my guess is safe here. If vindictive.

Damn I hate racist murders. My bad.

not that it matters but it must have mattered to you.

doesn't matter too much--all humans are sacred to me. But racists make me angry and unbalanced. Show me where the shooter was black and I'll be a little pussycat.

Heard it.

After being ignored 'SEVERAL TIMES' the normal person would withdraw.

Such is the logic of the gun culturist.

Potential Zimmermans, ALL.

Yeah, I guess murdering a naked man is far easier.

So where's the damn fool who took the guy's clothes? No statement from him?

And there's a cellphone video! OMG.

Instead of just reporting the naked man to the police and letting the authorities handle it, the passing motorist decided to take it upon himself to confront the man.