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RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:10 AM Oct 2013

Wal-Mart Worker Fired for Helping Assaulted Woman.

Kristopher Oswald, 30, said he was in his car on his break around 2:30 p.m. Sunday when he saw a man grabbing a woman in the parking lot of the Hartland Township store.

Oswald said he asked the woman if she needed help and the man started punching him in the head and yelling that he was going to kill him. Oswald said he was able to get on top of the man, but then two other men jumped him from behind.

Livingston County sheriff’s deputies eventually arrived on the scene and halted the fight.

Oswald said Walmart has policies against workplace violence to prevent employees from assaulting co-workers or tackling a shoplifter, but that it appears that nothing allows for them to assist in situations of imminent danger and self-defense.

A spokeswoman for Bentonville, Ark.-based Walmart Stores Inc. told The Associated Press on Thursday that while the company understood Oswald’s intentions, his actions violated company policy.


Link: http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/10/18/walmart-worker-says-he-was-fired-for-helping-assaulted-woman/
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Wal-Mart Worker Fired for Helping Assaulted Woman. (Original Post) RiffRandell Oct 2013 OP
Ridiculous Benton D Struckcheon Oct 2013 #1
Walmart again, often void of logic unless it involves greed and how to best fuck over employees RKP5637 Oct 2013 #2
Bloodless bastard corporations. n/t BlueToTheBone Oct 2013 #3
I wonder if this could help the victim in a lawsuit against Walmart Shampoobra Oct 2013 #4
More importantly, Wal Mart doesn't have security cameras and if they do it's frequently okaawhatever Oct 2013 #9
It was at 2:30 AM. FarCenter Oct 2013 #5
So what? RiffRandell Oct 2013 #6
Kitty Genovese JPZenger Oct 2013 #8
Fuck Wal Mart. The biggest loser since Reaganomics. Rex Oct 2013 #7
Self righteous shit bags Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #10

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
1. Ridiculous
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:14 AM
Oct 2013

So if he does nothing that woman is beaten up and worse, more than likely, but if he does something, he gets fired. What a world.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
2. Walmart again, often void of logic unless it involves greed and how to best fuck over employees
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:26 AM
Oct 2013

and customers. Money does not aways correlate with intelligence.

Shampoobra

(423 posts)
4. I wonder if this could help the victim in a lawsuit against Walmart
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:33 AM
Oct 2013

It seems to me the argument could be made that Walmart has demonstrated a lack of commitment to the safety of its customers: that the property has been made a safe haven for criminals, due to Walmart's policy forbidding its employees to intervene in an attack.

I mean, I realize they're not being paid to be security guards. But any citizen should have the right to help another, regardless of whose property the assault happens on, and regardless of where he or she works when the crime is committed.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
9. More importantly, Wal Mart doesn't have security cameras and if they do it's frequently
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 02:01 PM
Oct 2013

only to monitor possible union activity. I watched a story on Wal Mart and one of the former managers was commenting on the lack of security and deaths that may have been prevented. When they asked him about whether a specific store had a camera, he said they have the union package, which I guess is cameras that aren't monitored by store security guards for crime, but by store personnel for possible union recruiting. Dear Lord, how do those folks sleep at night.

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
6. So what?
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 01:22 PM
Oct 2013

How many fights occur after bars close? Who knows if they were even customers...they could have been in the parking lot for several reasons. It seems the guy was just trying to help someone in a dangerous situation. I don't know the answer to your question as none of the links (including mine) say if the woman pressed charges.

Your post reminds me of the Kitty Genovese murder and the "bystander effect', although the reports on that case changed several times over the years.

What happened to the black man that got into a car accident recently who went to a woman's door late at night for help?

She called 911 and the police came and shot him 10 times and killed him.

Not saying 911 shouldn't have been called, and I'd like to know who called, but at least this guy tried to help.

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
8. Kitty Genovese
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 01:51 PM
Oct 2013

Yes, Wal-Mart is just plain wrong on this case, and I'm sure the CEO will make an apology soon for the TV cameras.

In any case, there is some evidence that the neighbors were not so uncaring in the Genovese murder than initial reports had indicated. There were actually a couple different attacks on her - a shouting neighbor scared off the attacker at first. The murder later occurred at a spot where fewer neighbors could hear it. According to some reports, some neighbors did call police.

Scroll down this article to read more:

http://www.apa.org/gradpsych/2012/09/tall-tales.aspx

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