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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:26 AM Oct 2013

John Boehner: 'I Got Overrun' By My Caucus

John Boehner: 'I Got Overrun' By My Caucus

In explaining the origins of the first government shutdown since 1996, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) reportedly admitted to President Barack Obama earlier this month that he was "overrun" by his Republican caucus.

“John, what happened?” Obama asked Boehner on the second day of the shutdown, according to Politico.

“I got overrun, that’s what happened,” Boehner replied as he reportedly tried to exit a White House meeting for a smoke break.

Democrats repeatedly questioned Bohener's clout over Republican House members throughout the budget and debt standoff, arguing that the speaker capitulates too often to conservatives on Capitol Hill.

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said Boehner has become a "puppet — with Ted Cruz pulling the strings," while Obama said the speaker's inability to "control his caucus" contributed to the impasse.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/john-boehner-i-got-overrun-by-my-caucus

OMG! This is too good.

Obama: Boehner 'Can't Control His Caucus'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023857058

John Boehner: Worst. Speaker. Ever.

Mr. Tears is a clown.



A failure for the ages

By Steve Benen

I find it relatively easy to feel sorry for House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio). He's weak and inept, but most of the ridiculous things that happen among House Republicans aren't by Boehner's design. The Speaker didn't want the 2011 debt-ceiling crisis; he didn't to hold several dozen votes to repeal the Affordable Care Act; and he didn't want the government shutdown he forced last night. They're all the result of a radicalized caucus he doesn't control, want, or influence.

But Jonathan Cohn makes the case that what Boehner needs isn't pity; it's blame.

He's in a difficult position, for sure, but it's partly one of his own making. Sometimes leadership means telling followers what they can and can't do. In this case, that should have meant telling Tea Party Republicans they can't get rid of Obamacare, because it became law, was upheld by the Supreme Court, and validated by a presidential election. Boehner tried to say something along those lines after the election, but conservatives howled and -- as usual -- he backed down, promising the right they'd get their chance. Now they expect it to happen.

It won't. And at some point Boehner needs to say so. It will mean taking political risks, but that's what leaders do.

As he's proven, leading isn't Boehner's principle goal. The Speaker wants to hang on to his power, his nice office, and his lovely gavel, and if that means going out of his way to placate extremists so they don't get mad at him, so be it.

That might be pathetic, but it's also the foundation of his job security.

Indeed, in the larger context, it seems the political mainstream is still coming to terms with a dynamic for which there is no modern precedent: a Speaker of the House with no power, no backbone, no accomplishments, and no prospects for success. Boehner isn't just failing in basic tasks, he's failing as Speaker at a historic level.

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http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/10/01/20772599-a-failure-for-the-ages
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John Boehner: 'I Got Overrun' By My Caucus (Original Post) ProSense Oct 2013 OP
IOW he admitted that he's really not a 'leader' afterall. And/or he's horrible at it. knr nt livingwagenow Oct 2013 #1
A Song for the Occassion Indianademocrat91 Oct 2013 #2
LOL! ProSense Oct 2013 #3
Duzy (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #15
Fantastic, well done Southside Oct 2013 #18
Kick! ProSense Oct 2013 #19
DAMMIT! Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #20
He's An Opportunist... KharmaTrain Oct 2013 #4
Then you are unfit to lead, John. Plain and simple. Arkana Oct 2013 #5
this would suppose he has an alternate agenda from the teas bigtree Oct 2013 #6
He's not a teabagger. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #8
he is now bigtree Oct 2013 #9
Nope. Teabaggers voted against the bill avoiding default and reopening government, Boehner allowed PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #10
yeah bigtree Oct 2013 #12
He allowed it AFTER he disallowed it. AFTER we were shutdown for 2 weeks. cui bono Oct 2013 #17
Boehner you pu**y bigdarryl Oct 2013 #7
over run ha! you mean run over leftyohiolib Oct 2013 #11
Weak and weepy . Bet he cried in those meetings SummerSnow Oct 2013 #13
My cup runneth over w/ mirth at his plight. Scurrilous Oct 2013 #14
The kind of "overrun" that leaves one with a hangover? Coyotl Oct 2013 #16
Righteous takedown of john boner from Cha Oct 2013 #21

Indianademocrat91

(390 posts)
2. A Song for the Occassion
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:36 AM
Oct 2013

John Boehner got run over by his caucus
Walking home from the White House Shutdown eve.
You can say there's no such thing as too much bronzer,
But as for me and Barack, we believe.

He'd been drinking too much at his tea party,
And we'd begged him not to flea.
But he forgot his name in negotiations,
And he staggered out the door into his limousine.

When they found him Shutdown morning,
At the scene of the attack.
He had tea bags on his forehead,
And incriminating Cruz marks on his back.

Boehner got run over by his caucus,
Walking home from the White House Shutdown eve.
You can say there's no such thing as too much bronzer,
But as for me and Barack, we believe.


KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
4. He's An Opportunist...
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:44 AM
Oct 2013

...he'll blow and suck anything and everything as long as he gets to keep his nice cushy office with the built in liquor cabinet. He's never been a leader and his caucus knows that...in fact they expect that so that he can easily be rolled and manipulated. No leader sends bill after bill to repeal Obamacare fully knowing it will fail. He's sucking up to those who keep him in power and he placates them with worthless gestures. The fact that the last two House sessions have been the least productive vs. all the legislation that happened in the previous 4 under Speaker Pelosi. The contrast couldn't be more stark...

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
6. this would suppose he has an alternate agenda from the teas
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:18 PM
Oct 2013

. . . I think he's one and the same; maybe a bit more enamored of government (his speakership).

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
9. he is now
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:27 PM
Oct 2013

that might be a subject for debate among their throng, but the majority of Americans who were just subject to this shutdown stunt won't see any significant difference between the two.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
10. Nope. Teabaggers voted against the bill avoiding default and reopening government, Boehner allowed
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:31 PM
Oct 2013

it to be voted on and voted for it.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
12. yeah
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:39 PM
Oct 2013

. . . that translates for most of us out here as teabagger republicans shut down the government. Boehner acting as head teabagger allowed it; practically encouraged it to happen.

The House leadership has bent over backward to accomodate and appeal to the tea crowd. He may well be a reluctant teabagger. He may well be a recalcitrant one. He may well be an incompetent one, but, his acquiescence and promotion of their agenda as Speaker makes him just as complicit for whatever harm was threatened.

You can't ignore that he had the votes for a clean CR at any time.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
17. He allowed it AFTER he disallowed it. AFTER we were shutdown for 2 weeks.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 01:32 PM
Oct 2013

He only allowed it because he had to. So maybe... just because he didn't actually go over the edge he might escape that label, at least by the TPers themselves. But even if he's not considered one, he is too weak to stand up to them. Which is actually worse since it lets them run something as a minority.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
16. The kind of "overrun" that leaves one with a hangover?
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 01:13 PM
Oct 2013


from: What are the cartoonists saying about the GOPshutdown in the last 24 hours?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023876119

Cha

(297,323 posts)
21. Righteous takedown of john boner from
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:30 PM
Oct 2013

Steve Benen! Historic Failure! All thanks to the self absorbed "laughing stock" tedbagger scruz and his ilk. thank the teakochs, john.

thank PS

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