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cali

(114,904 posts)
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 02:05 PM Oct 2013

I'm Daisy Coleman, The Teenager At The Center Of The Maryville Rape Media Storm, And This Is

What Really Happened

<snip>

Waking up was a complete blur. I had to be carried into my mother's bedroom, in complete and total confusion. I was freezing and sick and bruised, my hair in icy chunks weighted against me. When my mom gave me a bath, she saw that I was hurt down in my privates.

We all knew something wasn't right. Something had gone wrong in the night.

My mother told me she found me outside, left for dead, and when she heard me trying to get to the door, she thought it was a dog scratching. I was weak and could have died in the below freezing temperatures.

Next thing I knew, I was in the ER getting blood drawn and having various tests done. We all knew what had happened, we just wanted someone else to say it for us. The doctors examined the rape kit and verified that our nightmares were real. This nightmare, though, didn't end. It continued on for many long months. It was only later I learned that my best friend, a year younger than me, had been raped, too.

Days seemed to drag on as I watched my brother get bullied and my mom lose her job. Ultimately our house burned to the ground.

I couldn't go out in public, let alone school.

I sat alone in my room, most days, pondering the worth of my life. I quit praying because if God were real, why would he do this?

I was suspended from the cheerleading squad and people told me that I was "asking for it" and would "get what was coming."

<snip>

Since this happened, I've been in hospitals too many times to count. I've found it impossible to love at times. I've gained and lost friends. I no longer dance or compete in pageants. I'm different now, and I can't ever go back to the person I once was. That one night took it all away from me. I'm nothing more than just human, but I also refuse to be a victim of cruelty any longer.

This is why I am saying my name. This is why I am not shutting up. Matt put on Twitter something recently. It read: “If her name begins with A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z, she wants the D.”

Since Anonymous has gotten involved, everything has changed. #justice4Daisy has trended on the Internet, and pressure has come down hard on the authorities who thought they could hide what really happened.

<snip>

http://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/daisy-coleman-maryville-rape

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I'm Daisy Coleman, The Teenager At The Center Of The Maryville Rape Media Storm, And This Is (Original Post) cali Oct 2013 OP
Man, she's been through a lot in her brief life deutsey Oct 2013 #1
Peace Daisy, may you have peace. Scuba Oct 2013 #2
Wow, that's a tough read. zappaman Oct 2013 #3
The authorites' conduct was just unacceptable. I hope they get what's coming! deafskeptic Oct 2013 #41
Tough life so far, tough girl. Savannahmann Oct 2013 #4
I hope those scumbags end up in prison malaise Oct 2013 #5
for a nice long stretch. cali Oct 2013 #6
Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #21
Really? NuclearDem Oct 2013 #27
Amazing that he is still here ain't it? Rex Oct 2013 #80
Go Anonymous indeed! Shemp Howard Oct 2013 #40
Welcome to DU, Shemp Howard! calimary Oct 2013 #77
While I'd prefer "six feet under," prison will do. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2013 #70
Wow, that was hard to read LittleBlue Oct 2013 #7
agreed. it's a terribly painful account cali Oct 2013 #9
I can't believe someone wore a shirt with LittleBlue Oct 2013 #12
Matt needs his Plucketeer Oct 2013 #24
Wow. delta17 Oct 2013 #63
It is this kind of courage that begins to stem the tide of privilege up the list to libdem4life Oct 2013 #8
I'm not sure how this stems the tide of privilege cali Oct 2013 #10
Nothing to do with money. By privilege...I edited it... meaning both men and women, often parents, libdem4life Oct 2013 #11
God, that was hard to read. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #13
A young girl, not a woman ArcticFox Oct 2013 #32
So brave and courageous Daisy. You are a survivor! riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #14
What a powerful couragious young woman Bravo!!!! Heather MC Oct 2013 #15
How the fuck can anyone be this cruel: Bertha Venation Oct 2013 #16
Because ... knightmaar Oct 2013 #20
Fortunate indeed, knightmaar. n/t Bertha Venation Oct 2013 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author polly7 Oct 2013 #26
that's what I want to know florida08 Oct 2013 #28
+ 1 Bertha Venation Oct 2013 #30
But that IS typical of many small towns in this country alarimer Oct 2013 #39
You may be right re: many small towns, but I have to tell you.. whathehell Oct 2013 #49
The depths of human cruelty just don't even surprise me anymore. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #29
I am not surprised at all. This is just what I've come to expect regarding these scandals. radicalliberal Oct 2013 #34
thank you for saying this!! BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #43
Thank you! As a husband and father, I feel very strongly about what I said. radicalliberal Oct 2013 #50
Very powerful.. yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #17
seems like we're no different than some folks in India and other countries... what is happening???? secondwind Oct 2013 #18
Miss Coleman Treant Oct 2013 #19
This one little girl has more courage than all Flatulo Oct 2013 #22
absolutely amazing person (Daisy) - wish there was a way to show support - n/t Locrian Oct 2013 #48
Brave young woman. I know this will never leave her, but I hope she can find some peace. bluesbassman Oct 2013 #23
am afraid for her florida08 Oct 2013 #31
Sigh RVN VET Oct 2013 #33
+++ n/t BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #44
Best post in the thread. By miles. redqueen Oct 2013 #74
I only wish reality were otherwise. RVN VET Oct 2013 #78
Fortunately, discussion of these events is turning to a discussion of ideas. redqueen Oct 2013 #79
Anonymous get the red out Oct 2013 #35
To Daisy Coleman: You go, girl! ReRe Oct 2013 #36
what a brave young lady LittleGirl Oct 2013 #37
Oh, dear Aldo Leopold Oct 2013 #38
Maryville sulphurdunn Oct 2013 #42
Thank you for posting this Bucky Oct 2013 #45
Daisy, I hope your family sues the people who failed to protect you perdita9 Oct 2013 #46
Yes Berlum Oct 2013 #47
Sick Society. I'm glad that most Americans are appalled at this behavior. BlueJazz Oct 2013 #51
I'm glad she's still fighting. blackspade Oct 2013 #52
Recommended. (nt) NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #53
I wish the best for her and the other friend that was raped Catherine Vincent Oct 2013 #54
Thanks for posting. I wish both the victims the best. I hope they will see justice. nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #55
I am 53, I was raped at age 16 by two men who held me against my will. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #56
Thank you The Traveler Oct 2013 #59
Thank you all for your support, and support of all who have to deal with this. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #73
+1 gollygee Oct 2013 #64
Rape is more about power than it is about sex. SharonAnn Oct 2013 #67
Thank you. This is not a small town problem, a red state problem, or a football problem. redqueen Oct 2013 #75
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #57
K&R Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #58
History in Kansas City Star article eridani Oct 2013 #60
Matthew Barnett is not involved in athletics WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #71
Good. Forget about contacting the athletic department eridani Oct 2013 #76
This is so sad. NealK Oct 2013 #61
Rapist can steal years from the lives of their victims. Ilsa Oct 2013 #62
This should never happen to any person. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #65
Bravest of the brave grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #66
Hugs and warm wishes for Daisy Coleman! closeupready Oct 2013 #68
Don't lose heart or hope, Daisy. roamer65 Oct 2013 #69
Matthews' mother says he is real victim. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #72

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
1. Man, she's been through a lot in her brief life
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 02:10 PM
Oct 2013

She and one of her brothers were with their father when he had his fatal car accident, and now this.

I wish her peace and healing.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
3. Wow, that's a tough read.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 02:20 PM
Oct 2013

Awful what happened to her and fuck the authorities who have covered this up.
I hope they get everything that's coming to them.

deafskeptic

(463 posts)
41. The authorites' conduct was just unacceptable. I hope they get what's coming!
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:44 PM
Oct 2013

That was a difficult read. I am impressed with how strong she is. She shouldn't have been treated like this. It was not her fault.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
5. I hope those scumbags end up in prison
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 02:24 PM
Oct 2013

Go Anonymous! Equality before the law is a critical aspect of democracy

Response to malaise (Reply #5)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
80. Amazing that he is still here ain't it?
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 06:21 PM
Oct 2013

I guess the admins have some amount of pity in their hearts.

Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
40. Go Anonymous indeed!
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:39 PM
Oct 2013

It is quite sad that we have to rely on Anonymous to see that this incident is properly investigated.

But thank goodness an organization such as Anonymous exists.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
77. Welcome to DU, Shemp Howard!
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:27 PM
Oct 2013

Glad you're here! Go Anonymous +1,000,000!!! Totally agree with what you said. Mighty glad they're there. But it's a shame that they even have to be.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
7. Wow, that was hard to read
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 02:35 PM
Oct 2013

Can't imagine how hard that would be to write.

It isn't worth a ban for saying what I think should happen to Matt. Not some one year prison sentence, he should get what he really deserves.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
8. It is this kind of courage that begins to stem the tide of privilege up the list to
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 02:35 PM
Oct 2013

judges, prosecutors and most importantly the cost to the perpetrators. She isn't even old enough to vote. I hope she writes a book and gets rich from it.

Also hope funds and a national voice/foundation emerge like happened with Polly Klaas' family and the child abduction evil. It will possibly go better with social media engaged.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. I'm not sure how this stems the tide of privilege
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 02:38 PM
Oct 2013

and she's not exactly from an underprivileged background. Her mother is a vet. It's just that they were relative newcomers in town. It has far more to do with that.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
11. Nothing to do with money. By privilege...I edited it... meaning both men and women, often parents,
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 02:46 PM
Oct 2013

teachers, school officials, law enforcement etc. that assume or make sure that nothing will be said, no action will be taken, no reputation other than the victim's will be affected, the perpetrators will just proceed on with their lives like nothing happened. That's privilege to me, and it's the way it has been and continues to be until a Daisy becomes unwilling to grant them this privilege...of silence and shame.

This is the ultimate extreme form of bullying...which has been ignited by social media, photos, videos, etc. Now hopefully this same medium will begin to stand up for the young, force their elders to take responsibility for our Rape Culture as it currently exists, and help the young...abused boys and girls Stand Their Ground.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
13. God, that was hard to read.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:01 PM
Oct 2013

Fuck that town for circling the wagons around a rapist, fuck that prosecutor for not doing their job, fuck the rape apologists who think she deserved it.

But most of all, fuck that arrogant entitled rapist and the piece of shit coconspirators who helped him rape a young woman and get away with it.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
15. What a powerful couragious young woman Bravo!!!!
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:08 PM
Oct 2013

To often the Victim gets put in the corner and we start to forget their is an actual person who was actually violated.

By standing up and saying her name she is letting them know, I AM NOT ASHAMED THAT YOU RAPED ME!!

I support her 100%!!!

It is sad that they only way to get just in some towns in the country it to shout from the bell tower so to speak.

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
16. How the fuck can anyone be this cruel:
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:12 PM
Oct 2013

"When I went to a dance competition I saw a girl there who was wearing a T-shirt she made. It read: 'Matt 1, Daisy 0.'"

Jesus fucking christ.

knightmaar

(748 posts)
20. Because ...
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:27 PM
Oct 2013

When a man and a woman (or a boy and a girl) have sex, he's taking something from her and she's giving it up. So when two people have sex, the man wins. When they don't have sex, the woman wins.

Duh. That's like, right in the Patriarchy Manual in Chapter 1.

There's a wide swath of people who view sex in this adversarial way. I was fortunate enough to have male friends in who steered me away form this mindset well before I had a girlfriend.

Response to knightmaar (Reply #20)

florida08

(4,106 posts)
28. that's what I want to know
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:53 PM
Oct 2013

This is not the country I grew up in at all. Bullying has gone way beyond the pale. Look how they treat POTUS. We've gone south and I don't know for how long. But this is more than I can stomach

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
39. But that IS typical of many small towns in this country
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:27 PM
Oct 2013

Hell, maybe even in larger communities.

I've seen it a million times. They close ranks around the favored ones, who are usually athletes (often, but not always, football players.) It happened at my suburban high school. Granted, nobody burned her house down, but still.

Everyone has stories like this, where some privileged person, be it an athlete or just some rich kid, gets a slap on the wrist for something they did. It might be as simple as passing a kid that doesn't deserve it because he's an athlete.

This IS the country we all grew up in. Time and time again, the 1% get a slap on the wrist. Everybody else gets thrown under the bus.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
49. You may be right re: many small towns, but I have to tell you..
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 07:08 PM
Oct 2013

This really is NOT the country I grew up in.

I'm a 63 year old woman, former flower child, raised in the residential section of a large city (Philadelphia)

and I DO see a lot of differences in teen behavior from "my time" in the Sixties.

Yes, there was "bullying" (I was a victim) but NOT to this extent....I'm serious when I tell you that:

I went to a large high school -- my graduating class was 1700 and, one thing we NEVER heard about back then,

and I do NOT think it was just "hushed up" was Teen (and younger) Suicide...Seriously -- I'm sure SOME teenager

committed suicide somewhere, but there were NOWHERE near the numbers there are today.

From my perspective, and I HAVE lived a fairly long and NOT sheltered life, it seems to have started on a large scale in the Eighties....I

am still shocked when I read how many younger DUers here talk about ALL the people they knew who committed suicide -- I only know

ONE and she was an acquaintance, much older, in her late twenties, depressed over a divorce.

I don't know HOW to account for the differences, to be honest, except MAYBE the fact that

drugs in high school were not NEARLY so prevalent? -- It was a BFD if you smoked a joint

when I was in high school -- it was freaking DARING!

Maybe a sociologist could comment on this, and I don't want to get flamed here, but the overall feeling in America

back then seemed just, well happier...YES, we had the Vietnam War,

YES, we had the Assassinations, but honestly, the feeling still seemed way more hopeful -- even all those anti-war demonstrations

attest to the idea people believed things could get BETTER, and I'm not sure WHY or HOW so much has changed,

but to this Sixty Somethings Eyes, it definitely has -- I invite all Baby Boomer's to weight in on this, in terms of similar experience.

radicalliberal

(907 posts)
34. I am not surprised at all. This is just what I've come to expect regarding these scandals.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:41 PM
Oct 2013

The victim in the Steubenville case has received death threats after the guilty verdict.

This has never been about the question of guilt or innocence. This has always been about spitting in the face of the victims for the sake of a football program. These people are utterly despicable. They defend the rapists! They are enemies of justice and decency and are totally lacking in empathy. They would have fit right in with the terror in Nazi Germany or Stalin's Russia.

Yet there are those who claim there is no rape culture (including perhaps a few DU members?). This is morally equivalent to those who say that we no longer need the Voting Rights Act because black Americans supposedly do not suffer discrimination anymore (which is a ludicrous position!).

There are those who claim there has been a decrease in rape of women and girls in this country. (Well, I'm sure that has given a lot of comfort to the victims in the Steubenville and Maryville cases! ) Oh, goody! I guess we can weaken laws against rape now!

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
43. thank you for saying this!!
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:01 PM
Oct 2013

If I hadn't felt so angry and nauseated, I would have wished to say it like you did.

Thank goodness Anonymous picked up on this and thank goodness Daisy is an exceptional kid!!!!



Too pissed at the twisted misogyny to say anything more.

radicalliberal

(907 posts)
50. Thank you! As a husband and father, I feel very strongly about what I said.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 07:09 PM
Oct 2013

I come from a family of intellectual women. My mother, who passed away decades ago, was a traditional housewife, as was expected of married women of her generation; but she had had a college education and was well-informed. As a young white teenager, she rejected Jim Crow before there was even a civil rights movement. As a college student my sister, who has always had a lot of empathy for people, did participate in the civil rights movement and was blacklisted by the Houston chapter of the John Birch Society. (My sister is too liberal to be a Communist. She even introduced me to The Confession by Artur London, who was a survivor of a Stalinist political show trial in Communist Czechoslovakia during the early 1950s.) What attracted me to my future wife even more than her physical beauty was her mind! She was so smart! In addition to being pretty, both of my daughters excelled academically in both high school and the university they attended. Both of them are better human beings than I was at their ages. They are two of the kindest human beings I've ever known. If most people were like them, we'd nearly have Utopia. I'm so proud of them I could almost cry!

So, no, I have no use for rape apologists and their ilk.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
18. seems like we're no different than some folks in India and other countries... what is happening????
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:18 PM
Oct 2013
 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
22. This one little girl has more courage than all
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:31 PM
Oct 2013

the authorities who fucked this up put together.

bluesbassman

(19,374 posts)
23. Brave young woman. I know this will never leave her, but I hope she can find some peace.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:36 PM
Oct 2013

As for the worthless POS that did this and the enablers in that town...

florida08

(4,106 posts)
31. am afraid for her
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:08 PM
Oct 2013

These sociopaths won't quit. She needs protection and stay off twitter. I take it no one was arresting for the arson to her home.

But what tears you up is how she says she has changed. I guess so. To have your neighbors torture you because you chose to report crimes against you. I read some of the tweets. I won't type them here they were so horrific.

So glad to see her fighting back. It might be what saves her emotionally. I read they are going to reopen the case. What a nightmare for her. Anonymous has gotten involved and help to change things. Where the hell we live anymore I don't know


http://rt.com/usa/maryville-missouri-rice-investigation-319/

RVN VET

(492 posts)
33. Sigh
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:19 PM
Oct 2013

It's become so brutish and ugly that I can't even get angry anymore. Sad, yes. Angry? There's no degree of anger short of insane, blood-spilling rage that could express it.

Still, if you really think all of this bullying of the victim and cheering-on of the perpetrator is new, I think you're wrong. This, folks, is the country we all grew up in. But in the old days, the people in power really could put a lid on it, and the victim really had no recourse but to shut up and move out of town. And social media may shine a light on this ugly part of American culture, but it is not going to effect any real change. As many people who are horrified by these acts of sexual terror, there will be an equal number who put on the T-shirt mocking the victim, who see to it that the victim's family is driven out of town.

Sadly, Daisy has found out at an early age what so many of us didn't find out until we were much older: people suck generally. Some worse and more frequently than others. Period.

And she's right about God: if there were one, why would it allow something like this to happen?

But it's possible to get over it. The scars will remain, but they'll fade. Daisy proves by her public outing of herself that she is strong. She will survive and thrive and, with any luck, the perps will do time and, who knows, maybe grow up to be actual men some day. I know a couple of people who, as children, suffered torments almost daily at the hands of abusive slime. They survived the horror, but it was a ferocious and long-term struggle. But, like Daisy, they were (and are) strong people.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
74. Best post in the thread. By miles.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:05 PM
Oct 2013
if you really think all of this bullying of the victim and cheering-on of the perpetrator is new, I think you're wrong. This, folks, is the country we all grew up in. But in the old days, the people in power really could put a lid on it, and the victim really had no recourse but to shut up and move out of town. And social media may shine a light on this ugly part of American culture, but it is not going to effect any real change. As many people who are horrified by these acts of sexual terror, there will be an equal number who put on the T-shirt mocking the victim, who see to it that the victim's family is driven out of town.


Thank you.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
79. Fortunately, discussion of these events is turning to a discussion of ideas.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 10:24 AM
Oct 2013

While I agree that shining a light on individual incidents will change nothing, the resulting discussions about the ways women are objectified will change things.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
35. Anonymous
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:51 PM
Oct 2013

That may be the only way real justice exists in a lot of cases. I am really sick of a lot of things that happen in this country regarding justice and the lack of it in so many cases.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
36. To Daisy Coleman: You go, girl!
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:11 PM
Oct 2013

Daisy is wounded, but she is going to heal and go on. She proves this by being able to take this big step of coming forward with her side of the story. And she is a wonderful writer to boot. I hope her Mamma gets her far away from that small town in the middle of nowhere where she can continue and finish high school and go on to college.

To everyone else here... that small town is like thousands of other small towns in this country, found mostly in red states but sometimes in the blue ones too. They comprise the 47% that voted for Mitt Romney. The brain deads and rich wannabes. Little fiefdoms, with a pecking order. I call them bully-villes. And one thing they despise are newcomers to town. Especially newcomers with brains, and in this instance females with beauty and a mountain of inner strength. I'm sure there are many, many girls out there in bullivilles who have gone through the same thing, but are not as strong as Daisy and her Mother, and will suffer for the rest of their lives. Is there a national rape hotline established in this country, or state sponsored rape hotlines? If not, then that is what needs to be established. The number needs to be plastered on billboards, in school manuals, church bulletin boards, newspapers, PS ads on TV on a continuous spin. If I had children of age 9-10, I would make them memorize that hotline number, asking them over and over to recite the number back to me (at random times) before they left the house. Otherwise, what can be done to get at this massive horrid problem in this country???

Aldo Leopold

(685 posts)
38. Oh, dear
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:21 PM
Oct 2013

this is just beyond words. I wish I could hug this brave girl, and, more than that, I wish hugging her would make a difference in her life.

As my Italian grandmother used to say, on a daily-freaking-basis, "Corragio".

perdita9

(1,144 posts)
46. Daisy, I hope your family sues the people who failed to protect you
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:36 PM
Oct 2013

No one should have to go through something like this.

Also, if this is an example of midwest values, I'm happy I live on the East Coast.

Catherine Vincent

(34,490 posts)
54. I wish the best for her and the other friend that was raped
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:04 PM
Oct 2013

The rapists need to be locked up. No excuses. And it's a shame comments had to be disabled.

WCLinolVir

(951 posts)
56. I am 53, I was raped at age 16 by two men who held me against my will.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 01:44 AM
Oct 2013

When we reported it to the police, they had me drive down to the hospital in the back of a police car!! I was examined by a doctor who acted like he wanted to get out of the room ASAP. After that lovely experience, I was interviewed by the police who asked, did I lead them on and just not want to take it all the way? The police told my step-father that they thought it was my fault. Honestly doesn't sound like things have improved very much. This was a large city in California. I can't imagine having to deal with a whole town knowing what I went through and protecting a rapist and threatening me. On top of feeling like I had my eyes ripped open to a reality that left me between a rock and a hard place. Vulnerable, unsafe and in PTSD. These people actually burned down their house. It's as if they burned her in effigy.
One of them, MB was arrested just a month prior for DWI, driving on the wrong side of the road.

The myth that their sex drive pushes them to force someone, rape, is a denial. Because all rapists find a way to minimize what they do, or assign blame to the victim. Explains why most of them are pathological, recidivists. They dehumanize and objectify. About 50% are impotent. Until we get men to stop spreading the rape myths, on the sly of course, we will have a rape culture. Because that form of informal socializing is passive acquiescence for that behavior.

 

The Traveler

(5,632 posts)
59. Thank you
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 02:26 AM
Oct 2013

I know it is never easy to speak of these experiences, but it is so important that people do.

And your are right. It is a myth. Rape is not about sex. It is about fragile egos trying to feel powerful. I'm a guy. Trust me. I know this type of male. They are beneath contempt ... unfit for the company of men, and certainly for the company of women.

Sail strong, lass.

Trav

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
75. Thank you. This is not a small town problem, a red state problem, or a football problem.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:10 PM
Oct 2013

This is a problem because we live in a rape culture in which rape victims are routinely blamed for being raped, and rapists are routinely excused by any means necessary.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
60. History in Kansas City Star article
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:07 AM
Oct 2013
http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/12/4549775/nightmare-in-maryville-teens-sexual.html#storylink=cpy

Nodaway County Sheriff
Darren White
404 N Vine St
Maryville, Missouri 64468
660-582-7451


The rapist Barnett is enrolled at the University of Central Missouri, his grandfather’s alma mater.
Head football coach Jim Svoboda
jsvoboda@ucmo.edu 6
660-543-4252

WCLinolVir

(951 posts)
71. Matthew Barnett is not involved in athletics
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 02:17 PM
Oct 2013

at the school, apparently. He is not on the roster. He is probably majoring in criminal law. One way or another. He also has been removed from the student directory. Rumour says he is out, one way or another.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
76. Good. Forget about contacting the athletic department
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:22 PM
Oct 2013

The county sheriff could still use an earful, IMO.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
62. Rapist can steal years from the lives of their victims.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:45 AM
Oct 2013

The rapists in Maryville and their enablers did that, changing the course of the girls' lives, depriving them of a sense of security, belief in justice.

I think teen girls need to find a way to arm themselves against attacks, learn to fight back hard, and unfortunately, look at every party as an opportunity someone will take to rape them.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
65. This should never happen to any person.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 09:53 AM
Oct 2013

Firstly the rape, and then the cover up.

What a bunch of criminals. I hope they get what they deserve and more.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
69. Don't lose heart or hope, Daisy.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 01:19 PM
Oct 2013

Justice is coming for the two responsible for these crimes. They will go to prison for their actions.

Prison will not be a pleasant place for them.

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