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malaise

(269,054 posts)
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:02 PM Oct 2013

The shit is about to hit the fan for Cruz missile - Ted Cruz Failed To Disclose Ties To Caribbean

Please remember to thank that Jamaican ahole Panton.
http://swampland.time.com/2013/10/18/ted-cruz-failed-to-disclose-ties-to-jamaican-holding-company/#ixzz2i67wBl2r
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In an amended financial disclosure form filed Oct. 1, Cruz said he still holds a promissory note from a Kingston-based company called Caribbean Equity Partners Investment Holdings LTD, worth between $100,000 and $250,000. No company with that name is registered in Jamaica. There is however a dormant Jamaica-based private equity firm called Caribbean Equity Partners Limited of which Cruz was a founding director and preferential shareholder, according to documents filed with the Jamaican government and reviewed by TIME. The firm held $100 million in assets under management in the mid-2000s, according to local news reports, with a focus on service and tourism investments in Jamaica and the Caribbean.

Cruz says he has not had any relationship with the private equity firm since he cashed out an initial investment of $6,000 for a total return of $100,000 a decade ago in a private agreement with his former college roommate, a Jamaican Rhodes scholar named David Panton, with whom Cruz co-founded the firm. Cruz says the agreement yielded him $25,000 in cash and $75,000 in the form of a promissory note on the holding company. The agreement included an oral provision for the accrual of reasonable interest on the debt, Cruz says. He says he initially deferred and then paid capital gains taxes on his profits from the investment.

After inquiries from TIME, Cruz provided a copy of the promissory note, which gives the name of the holding company as CEP Investments Holdings Limited. Cruz says the agreement is effectively an IOU to him from Panton, who is the owner of the holding company. Cruz says that while the holding company operates out of Jamaica, it is in fact domiciled in the British Virgin Islands.

Cruz says he failed to include the promissory note among his assets on his first financial disclosure in July 2012 when he was a candidate for the U.S. Senate because he had forgotten about it. “In 2011, there was an inadvertent omission of this promissory note, and after a conversation with my college roommate I remembered it,” Cruz says. Cruz’s initial filing was made in the heat of his campaign. He was fined $200 for filing the document late.

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The shit is about to hit the fan for Cruz missile - Ted Cruz Failed To Disclose Ties To Caribbean (Original Post) malaise Oct 2013 OP
I will never understand why politicians lie about shit like this. madaboutharry Oct 2013 #1
Very interesting indeed malaise Oct 2013 #2
This kind of info is why he conveniently forgot. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2013 #41
It wouldn't surprise me, either, if "one of his own" turned him in. MADem Oct 2013 #18
Oh, I absolutely think this was Republican payback RainDog Oct 2013 #51
Paybacksa beach! flamingdem Oct 2013 #63
good point! Cha Oct 2013 #66
Remember Gary Hart? BlueToTheBone Dec 2013 #79
Lie Little, Lie Big. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #3
Another good point. Lying just to keep in practice. When does he Cha Oct 2013 #67
A $6000 investment returning $100K ??? C_U_L8R Oct 2013 #4
That's why this is news malaise Oct 2013 #5
Maybe I've watched Scarface too many times C_U_L8R Oct 2013 #7
omg he's a coke head flamingdem Oct 2013 #64
Wasn't the RW all over Hillary for a similar investment? The Straight Story Oct 2013 #52
Was he in "Canadian citizen" mode during this time? Zambero Oct 2013 #6
That might create another problem malaise Oct 2013 #8
Sorry we don't want him. We've got our own problems. TrogL Oct 2013 #39
Caribbean Equity Partners co-founder David Parton starroute Oct 2013 #9
Another CEP co-founder, Nigel Clarke starroute Oct 2013 #11
Nigel is good guy malaise Oct 2013 #13
I believe it starroute Oct 2013 #36
Hope he can't duck this. Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2013 #10
Someone here referred to him as "Carnival Cruz" dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #12
Well he's a clown malaise Oct 2013 #14
for sure at least a yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #28
10 bucks says.... Xolodno Oct 2013 #15
Duh! Of course it was known malaise Oct 2013 #16
Explanation is plausible bjobotts Oct 2013 #17
Agreed. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #31
People who stir up the shitpot... Hubert Flottz Oct 2013 #19
He is a tax cheat riverbendviewgal Oct 2013 #20
this will go nowhere itsrobert Oct 2013 #21
you have that right... yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #29
exactly.... sendero Oct 2013 #32
Somehow I'm not surprised this is coming up now. dballance Oct 2013 #22
You Betcha malaise Oct 2013 #23
THey said that about John Ensign malaise Oct 2013 #24
If the GOP senate..... sendero Oct 2013 #33
You don't think McConnell et al will malaise Oct 2013 #34
I don't think they are.... sendero Oct 2013 #35
Spot on - TBF Oct 2013 #43
Yup. Ol Teddy boy's not going to know what hit him. bklyncowgirl Oct 2013 #48
The Republicon KNIVES are out. Such 'values' they have. Berlum Oct 2013 #56
I...forgot! klook Oct 2013 #25
Very good malaise Oct 2013 #53
Instant Karma... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #26
Cool.... blue14u Oct 2013 #70
David Panton was Cruz's former college roommate? red dog 1 Oct 2013 #27
ROFL malaise Oct 2013 #30
If someone owed me $100 Grand and was paying interest on it I'd probably remember it 1-Old-Man Oct 2013 #37
Once again, shirking blame and personal responsibility Aldo Leopold Oct 2013 #38
TeaPukers won't care and the Limp Media will ignore it. SoapBox Oct 2013 #40
He'll resign in February and get a talking head job on FOX. marble falls Oct 2013 #42
Hell, that ain't the half of it. sulphurdunn Oct 2013 #44
King Cruz. Has a catchy ring to it, don't you think. bklyncowgirl Oct 2013 #49
I like Carnival Cruz sulphurdunn Oct 2013 #69
Read it malaise Oct 2013 #57
k&r...!!!! spanone Oct 2013 #45
I always forget when folks owe me $100,000 or more. Silly me! ca3799 Oct 2013 #46
**nickname alert** SummerSnow Oct 2013 #47
Excellent malaise Oct 2013 #54
Something tells me this guy has MuseRider Oct 2013 #50
ReTHUGs are digging malaise Oct 2013 #59
What scuzzy republicon 'values' these wankers have Berlum Oct 2013 #55
I hope there is more digging going on. texanwitch Oct 2013 #58
"I did not have financial relations with that private equity firm..." Flying Squirrel Oct 2013 #60
You Betcha malaise Oct 2013 #61
I think Cruz bit off more then he can chew. texanwitch Oct 2013 #62
Brilliant deduction my dear... lol blue14u Oct 2013 #71
Life must be good if you can "forget" about a $75,000 promissary note. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #65
I think it possible blue14u Oct 2013 #72
Lol, back in my day, when one young guy hands another young guy ... Babel_17 Oct 2013 #68
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #73
Ted Cruz has a god-given talent? cyberswede Dec 2013 #74
Hey, he worked hard to be born to his daddy! arcane1 Dec 2013 #77
"Some people actually work hard for their money and use their God-given talent to make a profit"... NRaleighLiberal Dec 2013 #75
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #76
Bought any good coloring books lately? arcane1 Dec 2013 #78

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
1. I will never understand why politicians lie about shit like this.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:17 PM
Oct 2013

Do they really think no one is going to dig this up. It seems so petty, and almost like some weird sort of challenge to others to find stuff out.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
2. Very interesting indeed
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:21 PM
Oct 2013

His side kick Panton married and divorced two beauty queens - one from Jamaica and one from Trinidad and Tobago. He was in politics with the JLP but they used him until he was broke. He returned to the US a while back and has not been seen in recent times - one more genuine RW lunatic who only wanted to engage with the Ivy league posse (or beauty queens - for a while).

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
41. This kind of info is why he conveniently forgot.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:26 PM
Oct 2013

Plus his backers wouldn't take kindly to him starting up Caribbean company as it would be quite diverse in terms of skin color and such. And coming from a Canadian American whose name is Cruz, he would have most likely lost the primary.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
18. It wouldn't surprise me, either, if "one of his own" turned him in.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:09 PM
Oct 2013

The GOP wants that troublemaking asshole sidelined more than the Dems do!

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
51. Oh, I absolutely think this was Republican payback
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:30 PM
Oct 2013

I laughed when I saw the article b/c I thought... it's starting.

They will give him so much shit.

Deservedly.

Cha

(297,317 posts)
67. Another good point. Lying just to keep in practice. When does he
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 01:41 AM
Oct 2013

ever turn it off.. or does he?

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
4. A $6000 investment returning $100K ???
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:25 PM
Oct 2013

Where can I sign up ???

That either the healthiest investment around
or there is some serious hanky-panky going on.
I suspect the latter,

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
7. Maybe I've watched Scarface too many times
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:34 PM
Oct 2013

so why did this investment company need to be offshored?

Service and Tourism??? Uh huh.

And while we're at it, why does Cruz talk so fast and nasally?

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
6. Was he in "Canadian citizen" mode during this time?
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:32 PM
Oct 2013

Hey Ted, Just retroactively renounce the U.S. part of your dual citizenship and everything will be just fine. Provided you leave the country for good and promise never to return!

starroute

(12,977 posts)
9. Caribbean Equity Partners co-founder David Parton
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:42 PM
Oct 2013

Watch out for those former Harvard Law Review presidents. You can't trust 'em.

http://pseps.com/person/David-Panton

David Panton is a partner and co-founder of Navigation Capital Partners. David is the board chairman of Atlanta-based Brown Trucking, a transportation and logistics services provider. He also serves on the board of Atlanta-based Prepaid Solutions, a payments solutions provider, and Atlanta-based Brand Bank, a regional bank. He is a former board member or observer of Atlanta-based Dell SecureWorks (internet security), Dallas-based Exeter Finance (sub-prime auto finance), Atlanta-based Zavata (healthcare business process outsourcing) and Atlanta-based Computerjobs (IT job recruitment firm). Prior to Navigation Capital Partners, David was a vice president at Mellon Ventures, a $1.4 billion private equity firm affiliated with Mellon Financial Corporation, where he focused on long-term growth capital investments and buyouts. David was also the co-founder and managing director of Caribbean Equity Partners, a private equity firm targeting investments in the Caribbean and Latin America. David concentrated on mergers and acquisitions in Latin America while an associate at Morgan Stanley & Co. in New York. David received a Doctorate in management studies from Oxford University, where he was a Rhodes Scholar, a Juris Doctor from Harvard Law School, where he was president of the Harvard Law Review, and a Bachelor of Arts in public policy from Princeton University. David also holds a Professional Director Certification from the American College of Corporate Directors, a public company director education and credentialing organization.

David is an Adjunct Professor at Emory University's Goizueta Business School, where he teaches a course in private equity investing. He is also a member of the Southern 7 Chapter of the Young Presidents Organization (YPO) and a member of Leadership Atlanta (Class of 2012). He was named by Buyouts Magazine as "One of Eight Buyout Pros Under 40 to Watch" (2009) and by the Atlanta Business Chronicle as a one of the "40 Under 40" Rising Stars (2011). Additionally, David has previously served as a Senator in the Upper House of Parliament in Jamaica. Born and raised in Jamaica, David resides in Atlanta.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
11. Another CEP co-founder, Nigel Clarke
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:46 PM
Oct 2013

Whatever CEP was, it wasn't just some petty operation founded by an old pal of Cruz's. These people are *connected*.

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/business/Nigel-Clarke-appointed-to-Bank-of-Jamaica-Board-of-Directors_7994225

Dr Nigel Clarke who serves as Chief Operating Officer of the Musson Group is to be appointed to sit on the Board of Directors of the Bank of Jamaica, Sunday Finance understands. Clarke who recently stepped down from the Board of NCB has a stellar reputation in corporate Jamaica and has been tipped as one to watch from the new generation of corporate leaders. He was part of the "Golden Generation" comprising David Panton, Jeffrey Hall and Eleanor Brown who together with Clarke, were founding members of Caribbean Equity Partners. Clarke went on to distinguish himself over the last decade sitting on the Board of Directors of Red Stripe, Seprod NCB, NCB Capital Markets, Facey Commodity and Jamaica Broilers. He has remained in Jamaica and his reputation is untarnished. Affable and intelligent , he also has a first class education. He holds a Bachelor of Science degree in Mathematics and computer science from the University of the West Indies and a Master of Science from one of the world's best educational institutions, Oxford University. He followed that up with a Doctorate in Mathematics again at Oxford University.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
36. I believe it
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:13 PM
Oct 2013

The firm sounds like it's on the up-and-up, and I would guess that Cruz just got the chance to buy into it as a favor to a friend. But something is screwy somewhere along the line.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
15. 10 bucks says....
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:01 PM
Oct 2013

...this was "known" all along.

But since he created a huge mess, all this stuff is going bubble up in order to get him to shut up.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
16. Duh! Of course it was known
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:03 PM
Oct 2013

He was fined. He should have seen this coming. Either stay clean or STFU.

yuiyoshida

(41,832 posts)
29. you have that right...
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:59 PM
Oct 2013

If he had been a democrat, Fox News and Hate Radio would be all over him.. but I suppose we can expect that this
may go away. Forgotten tomorrow. I hope not.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
32. exactly....
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:06 PM
Oct 2013

.... don't get your hopes up over this, he paid his $200 fine and that will be the end of it.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
22. Somehow I'm not surprised this is coming up now.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:21 PM
Oct 2013

I'm betting every skeleton in his dirty little closet will be coming out over the next year or so. I'm betting most of it will be anonymously leaked by his fellow Republicans.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
33. If the GOP senate.....
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:07 PM
Oct 2013

.... turns against him, they could use this as leverage perhaps. But I don't think that will happen.

Now, if another and another of these little mind-slips come up, that is a different story.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
35. I don't think they are....
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:12 PM
Oct 2013

... smart enough to understand he will ruin their party or bold enough to do anything about it if they do.

I would love to see Cruz taken to the wood shed and left there but I don't think it will happen soon. He'll have to do a lot more damage.

TBF

(32,067 posts)
43. Spot on -
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:38 PM
Oct 2013

they'll destroy him themselves. He's a loose cannon and there is one thing republicans really do not like - someone they cannot control.

bklyncowgirl

(7,960 posts)
48. Yup. Ol Teddy boy's not going to know what hit him.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:05 PM
Oct 2013

He has pissed off the Powers That Be and that is never a good thing for a politician.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
56. The Republicon KNIVES are out. Such 'values' they have.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:40 PM
Oct 2013

Jesus no like backstabbing pretend Xtians.

klook

(12,157 posts)
25. I...forgot!
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:31 PM
Oct 2013

Transcript of Steve Martin's monologue from Saturday Night Live, Jan. 21, 1978:

You.. can be a millionaire.. and never pay taxes! You can be a millionaire.. and never pay taxes! You say.. "Steve.. how can I be a millionaire.. and never pay taxes?" First.. get a million dollars. Now.. you say, "Steve.. what do I say to the tax man when he comes to my door and says, 'You.. have never paid taxes'?" Two simple words. Two simple words in the English language: "I forgot!" How many times do we let ourselves get into terrible situations because we don't say "I forgot"? Let's say you're on trial for armed robbery. You say to the judge, "I forgot armed robbery was illegal." Let's suppose he says back to you, "You have committed a foul crime. you have stolen hundreds and thousands of dollars from people at random, and you say, 'I forgot'?" Two simple words: Excuuuuuse me!!"
- Source: http://snltranscripts.jt.org/77/77imono.phtml


 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
26. Instant Karma...
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:37 PM
Oct 2013

Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna knock you right in the head
You better get yourself together
Pretty soon your gonna be dead

What in the world you thinking of?
Laughing in the face of love
What on Earth you tryna do?
It's up to you, yeah, you

Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna knock you right in the face
You better get yourself together darling
Join the human race

How in the world you gonna see?
Laughing at fools like me
Who on Earth do you think you are?
A superstar? Well, right you are

And we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well, we all shine on
Everyone, c'mon

Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna knock you off your feet
Better recognize your brothers
Everyone you meet

Why in the world are we here?
Surely not to live in pain and fear
Why on Earth are you there
When you're everywhere
Gonna get your share

Well, we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah, we all shine on
C'mon and on and on, on, on

Yeah, yeah, alright

Well, we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah, we all shine on
On and on and on, on and on

And we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well, we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun

Yeah, we all shine on
Like the moons and the stars and the sun
Yeah, we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun

red dog 1

(27,820 posts)
27. David Panton was Cruz's former college roommate?
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:48 PM
Oct 2013

I guess his body odor problem didn't bother Panton as much as it did another former college roommate of Cruz.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023839988/

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
37. If someone owed me $100 Grand and was paying interest on it I'd probably remember it
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:14 PM
Oct 2013

Sure, I could see how someone could forget about a $100 grand debt, but if that same debtor was sending me a check for interest due every now and then I'd probably take heed of that little reminder

Aldo Leopold

(685 posts)
38. Once again, shirking blame and personal responsibility
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:15 PM
Oct 2013

from a card-carrying member of the "personal responsibility" party.

Fucker!

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
44. Hell, that ain't the half of it.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:38 PM
Oct 2013

Not only is Cruz a grifter, he's also a certifiable Dominionist grifter. That puts him in the same company with Queen Palin and God only knows how many other fifth columnist capitalist theocrats serving in Congress who are out to destroy representative government in this country. It's no joke. Please read the link.

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2013/10/16/143336/01

bklyncowgirl

(7,960 posts)
49. King Cruz. Has a catchy ring to it, don't you think.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:09 PM
Oct 2013

King Cruz, Carnival Cruz, Carribean Cruze it's so hard to choose.

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
50. Something tells me this guy has
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:18 PM
Oct 2013

a load of shit buried just waiting to be dug up. Just my opinion but he smells of nasty dealings.

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
60. "I did not have financial relations with that private equity firm..."
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 08:09 PM
Oct 2013

"There is no financial relationship."

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
65. Life must be good if you can "forget" about a $75,000 promissary note.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 01:02 AM
Oct 2013

Thanks for the thread, malaise

blue14u

(575 posts)
72. I think it possible
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 01:46 AM
Oct 2013

and MOST likely he could have been hiding it from the wife, you know....

just in case... hummmm

He is dirty, real dirty... I smelled him a million miles away.. I live in the South,

our last Mayor made someone in Jackson MS angry and that was

all it took. Investigations started, he came out as gay to the community

and his very angry wife. Overcharged on his city credit card and on and on and on...

Needless to say that was his demise and along with him went the city counsel...

ALL voted out of office for not checking his spending.... Oh well...

I smell a rat when I see him, and he will pay for what he has done ..

Eventually....if they can't find real scandals, puks will make them up...

We all know that is how they play. It just is.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
68. Lol, back in my day, when one young guy hands another young guy ...
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 09:52 AM
Oct 2013

Lol, back in my day, when one young guy hands another young guy 6,000 dollars and got a return of 100,000 dollars there weren't many things they could have been dealing in.

Guns to insurgents, coke, or a guy called Bill Gates, are all that come to mind.

More seriously, I have to wonder at the lack of intense curiosity by the press about that kind of profit return.

Response to Babel_17 (Reply #68)

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
75. "Some people actually work hard for their money and use their God-given talent to make a profit"...
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 12:38 AM
Dec 2013

...and then, there are other people, like Cruz.

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