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(8,155 posts)
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:53 PM Oct 2013

A Republican McCarthyist is dead. And another House seat is open for Democrats

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/19/us-usa-florida-republican-idUSBRE99I00320131019

(Reuters) - U.S. Representative Bill Young of Florida, the longest-serving Republican member of Congress, died on Friday more than a week after announcing his plans to retire, his family said in a statement. He was 82.


Young served in the Florida Senate from 1960-1970. Those years were marked by one of the few stains on his political career, his membership on the Florida Legislative Investigation Committee from 1962-1964.

Better known as the Johns Committee, the panel targeted people suspected of homosexuality or communism.


Once reliably Republican, Young's district on Florida's western coast has backed the party's presidential nominee only once since 1988. Republican George W. Bush won 51 percent of the district's votes in 2004, but it went for Democrat Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012.


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A Republican McCarthyist is dead. And another House seat is open for Democrats (Original Post) Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 OP
I don't suppose you've got another Alan Grayson down there do you? Scuba Oct 2013 #1
Yes Alan G, no Allen West please sobenji Oct 2013 #20
I wish. HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #23
More progressive candidates are doing much better than DINO's nationally. Don't settle, fight! Scuba Oct 2013 #24
I hear ya. HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #25
Jeez, Scuba. You beat me to that one by better than 20 minutes. Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #26
Eggzaklee! Scuba Oct 2013 #28
we're counting to 218 n/t BlueToTheBone Oct 2013 #2
let's hope for the best handmade34 Oct 2013 #3
He evolved from wanting to throw gay people in jail to simply hating them in general. Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #4
thanks for the info on the District going to Obama Cha Oct 2013 #5
The key would be to find a Democrat like Obama in order to win Young's seat. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #29
But, since there's Cha Oct 2013 #31
True dat. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #33
His first few years in FL Senate, he was the only Repub... HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #6
His wife Beverly will run if Democrat Ehrlich runs Southside Oct 2013 #7
Alex Sink has announced an interest. HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #8
Yes!!!! And thanks Southside Oct 2013 #9
I don't know anything about Erlich. HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #10
Thanks, we better lock this one up Southside Oct 2013 #14
Its VERY doable for a Dem. HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #16
She doesn't live in the district. secondvariety Oct 2013 #21
She had said she'd move. HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #22
So Rick Scott will hold a special election on a Monday doc03 Oct 2013 #11
Haha...I know that is a joke Southside Oct 2013 #12
He may try n/t doc03 Oct 2013 #13
Haha Southside Oct 2013 #15
Best news I've heard all night. Moses2SandyKoufax Oct 2013 #17
This is an area just ripe for the picking... GatorOrange Oct 2013 #18
President Obama won that district TWICE. He must campaign with the Democrat who BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #30
Crossing my fingers. Hulk Oct 2013 #19
Fox News Mistakenly Reports Death Of Rep. CW Bill Young Coyotl Oct 2013 #27
Can we clone Alan Grayson for the seat? nt Zorra Oct 2013 #32
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
23. I wish.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:44 AM
Oct 2013

Unfortunately, this district is just slightly blue. A Progressive might have trouble winning it. R's slightly outnumber Ds, but a large amount of Is that trend D. Dem candidate would probably have to be DLC, but at least that would spur some action from state party...they would sit on their hands if a Progressive was running. Alex Sink expressed an interest, I think she'd win.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
25. I hear ya.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 11:27 AM
Oct 2013

Here is a district map:
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/04/1213537/-FL-13-What-are-the-Issues-in-Congressman-Bill-Young-s-District-Congressional-Map-Included

The notch cut out during last redistricting represents downtown and S St Petersburg, which is about 90+% African-American. This was done to gerrymander Young a safe district. Still, the district had 52% support of Obama in '12. The AA community was added to Kathy Castor's 14th district, which was already solid Dem.

Where a Progressive could make in-roads in the 13th district is making SS and Medicare central issues. Still lots of retirees in 13th district, and any candidate proposing cuts is committing political suicide. Education is also important. Beach communities love Fed $ for beach renourishment, but those are condo commandos who'll vote Rep no matter what. Most of the district is low-lying, and flood ins is scheduled to soar in price...that could be an issue.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
26. Jeez, Scuba. You beat me to that one by better than 20 minutes.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 11:33 AM
Oct 2013

I absolutely believe that in many cases, the reason a district votes purple is because the Dems don't really offer a progressive alternative. You know--that old Harry Truman thing--

"Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time."--HST

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
3. let's hope for the best
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:20 PM
Oct 2013

it could be worse... the article states that Rep Young evolved over the years (opinion of LGBT) and he was against the shutdown... hope there will be a strong Democratic candidate

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
4. He evolved from wanting to throw gay people in jail to simply hating them in general.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:21 PM
Oct 2013

Not much of an evolution, if you ask me.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
29. The key would be to find a Democrat like Obama in order to win Young's seat.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 12:21 PM
Oct 2013

That is, if the district voted for Obama twice.

That would mean that Democrats have a strong chance at winning that seat.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
6. His first few years in FL Senate, he was the only Repub...
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:38 PM
Oct 2013

...so all the other members of the Johns Committee were Democrats. It was an ugly period in Florida's history.

Southside

(338 posts)
7. His wife Beverly will run if Democrat Ehrlich runs
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:38 PM
Oct 2013

"A special election will be held to finish Mr. Young’s term."

"President Obama carried the district 52 percent to 46 percent in the 2012 presidential race, while Mr. Young beat the Democratic challenger, Jessica Ehrlich, 58 percent to 42 percent. Ms. Ehrlich has declared her candidacy for 2014. Beverly Young has told the local media that she would run for the seat if Ms. Ehrlich’s name is on the ballot."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/19/us/politics/c-w-bill-young-longtime-florida-congressman-dies-at-82.html

Gooo Ehrlich, take it home!!

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
8. Alex Sink has announced an interest.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:40 PM
Oct 2013

There are several other Dems exploring options. Not a lot of R interest. Sink would win in a landslide.

Southside

(338 posts)
9. Yes!!!! And thanks
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:44 PM
Oct 2013

Gooo Alex Sink. Take the house. It is ripe for the taking

You have my hopes up, hope the widow isn't serious or likes Sink. What did Ehrlich do them? Haha politics is rough.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
10. I don't know anything about Erlich.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:02 PM
Oct 2013

Political newcomer, I think she's a lawyer. She did better than most challengers, with zero finding. State and National party never bothered to put any resources whatsoever into that seat, even as the district changed from slightly red to slightly blue.

Southside

(338 posts)
14. Thanks, we better lock this one up
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:20 PM
Oct 2013

I'll even donate. We need a democratic majority in the house. Boehner is promising more appeasement to extremists and no leadership.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
16. Its VERY doable for a Dem.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:42 PM
Oct 2013

District is a bit blue now. St Pete's repuke mayor trailing in polls, Dem challenger likely will win.

secondvariety

(1,245 posts)
21. She doesn't live in the district.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:41 AM
Oct 2013

As much as I like Sink, the setting up of a post office box to qualify as a resident in a district strikes me as an end run around the rules. I don't like it no matter which side does it.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
22. She had said she'd move.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:33 AM
Oct 2013

Now that was before Young died, and she was mulling over running for the seat in '14.* I don't know if moving the calender up for a special election changes that.

* per TBT article of a week ago.

Moses2SandyKoufax

(1,290 posts)
17. Best news I've heard all night.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:51 PM
Oct 2013

Good riddance to this old miserable fucking bastard. Too bad he lived this long.

GatorOrange

(63 posts)
18. This is an area just ripe for the picking...
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 12:35 AM
Oct 2013

Alex Sink would make a good candidate and is very well connected down there. Just needs a little bit of money to ward off an area the GOP will fight like mad not to lose. Very good opportunity for us to pick up another seat.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
30. President Obama won that district TWICE. He must campaign with the Democrat who
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 12:24 PM
Oct 2013

will run for Young's seat if we want to win that seat, and ultimately, the House, from the radical Rightwing-loons.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
19. Crossing my fingers.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 12:41 AM
Oct 2013

It's awful early, but this is the sort of news I like reading. I think it would be GREAT if we could put Nancy Pelosi back as Speaker of the House, and let the bar cleaner go back to wherever the hell he came from.

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