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spooky3

(34,462 posts) Mon Mar 5, 2012, 09:25 PM Mar 2012

Frum: "Are we being fair to Rush L.?"

http://www.davidfrum.com/

Interesting comments from one of the few intelligent Republican commentators (see link and scroll down for his rationale to support these points):

"Point 1: Even by the rough standards of cable/talk radio/digital talk, Limbaugh's verbal abuse of Sandra Fluke set a new kind of low. I can't recall anything as brutal, ugly and deliberate ever being said by such a prominent person and so emphatically repeated. This was not a case of a bad "word choice." It was a brutally sexualized accusation, against a specific person, prolonged over three days.

Point 2: The cases that conservatives cite as somehow equivalent to Limbaugh's tirade against Fluke by and large did bring consequences for their authors...

Point 3: Limbaugh's place in American public life is in no way comparable to that of David Letterman, Bill Maher or Ed Schultz...

Point 4: Most fundamentally, why the impulse to counter one outrageous stunt by rummaging through the archives in search of some supposedly offsetting outrageous stunt? Why not respond to an indecent act on its own terms, and then -- if there's another indecency later -- react to that too, and on its own terms?..."

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Frum: "Are we being fair to Rush L.?" (Original Post) spooky3 Mar 2012 OP

There have been sooooo many indecent acts, it is hard to pick just one...... MindMover Mar 2012 #1

yeah, what he said! Schema Thing Mar 2012 #2

Misanthrope Sycophant Monster ,MSM orpupilofnature57 Mar 2012 #3

I'm not finding this headline on his site arcane1 Mar 2012 #4

That headline is not on the David Frum site csziggy Mar 2012 #5

I read the Frum article today on the Internet...I think it was on cnn.com? Or maybe the NYT? Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #6

The site kept using the same URL even though spooky3 Mar 2012 #9

Here it is: arcane1 Mar 2012 #7

Thanks - the mistake I made was using the OP title exactly csziggy Mar 2012 #8

MindMover

(5,016 posts)

1. There have been sooooo many indecent acts, it is hard to pick just one......

Reply to spooky3 (Original post)

Mon Mar 5, 2012, 09:31 PM

Mar 2012

but I think this time.....well lets just say.....the fat lady has gotten up to sing....

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/41483660@N04/6560675479/" title="fat+lady+sings by pbmus, on Flickr"><img src="" width="500" height="310" alt="fat+lady+sings"></a>

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)

2. yeah, what he said!

Reply to spooky3 (Original post)

Mon Mar 5, 2012, 09:31 PM

Mar 2012

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)

3. Misanthrope Sycophant Monster ,MSM

Reply to spooky3 (Original post)

Mon Mar 5, 2012, 09:42 PM

Mar 2012

The first time I actually listened to 'Marbles in my mouth' 1993 he was comparing African American funerals and white ones and that though white people cry and grieve ,black people want to crawl in the casket and become spastic.The GLEE I heard in his voice as outraged people were given two seconds and hung up on ,only to hear another victimized person thwarted mid-word ,brought my heart rate to the point I've never listened to him in that context ,as in his show again.

arcane1

(38,613 posts)

4. I'm not finding this headline on his site

Reply to spooky3 (Original post)

Mon Mar 5, 2012, 10:48 PM

Mar 2012

is there a direct link?

csziggy

(34,136 posts)

5. That headline is not on the David Frum site

Reply to arcane1 (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 5, 2012, 10:54 PM

Mar 2012

I just used the Google "search this site" and that phrase did not come up on the site once. When I searched the internet with Google to find it, the only hits were the OP.

If the poster weren't a long time DUer I'd think they were trying to drive traffic to David Frum's site. Maybe it was there and was removed?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)

6. I read the Frum article today on the Internet...I think it was on cnn.com? Or maybe the NYT?

Reply to csziggy (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 5, 2012, 11:00 PM

Mar 2012

I went to several sites to catch up on news, and the Frum article was linked on a front page of some famous news site.

spooky3

(34,462 posts)

9. The site kept using the same URL even though

Reply to csziggy (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 12:12 AM

Mar 2012

You had to click two links to get to it. I don't know why the Frum site doesn't provide a direct link. A poster at mediamatters.org mentioned this piece.

If you read the points I quoted, which were pretty critical of the limpbag, I think it's pretty clear i wasn't interested in driving traffic to a Republican. Anyway, glad you eventually found it.

arcane1

(38,613 posts)

7. Here it is:

Reply to arcane1 (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 5, 2012, 11:05 PM

Mar 2012

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/05/opinion/frum-rush-limbaugh-fairness/index.html

csziggy

(34,136 posts)

8. Thanks - the mistake I made was using the OP title exactly

Reply to arcane1 (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 5, 2012, 11:57 PM

Mar 2012

And abbreviating Limbaugh's last name screwed up the search.

Frum though is still a Republican tool:

But this latest Limbaugh outburst is so "piggish," to borrow a word from Peggy Noonan, as to overwhelm the revenge drama. (On Saturday, Limbaugh apologized "for the insulting word choices.&quot

It is the bottom of the barrel of shock talk.

And the good news is that from the bottom of the barrel, there is nowhere to go but up.

He seems to think that although Limbaugh was piggish, because he apologized, he can make a come back. I hope David Frum is wrong about this as he is about so many other things.

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