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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Nice point.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)it further supports my belief that the government should never privatize anything!!!
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)I wondered, if true, why that isn't pointed out.
pinto
(106,886 posts)gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)Atman
(31,464 posts)Not 100%, but I believe this is the info I heard a couple days ago.
(Edit to correct: I had listed AGI, a different software company saying they specialize in "space, defense and intelligence" software.)
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)WTF do Canadians know about setting up a cobbled-together patchwork assemblage of health insurance plans devised largely to satisfy the needs of parasitic insurance companies?
Atman
(31,464 posts)I swear I heard them talking about it on Morning Joke, but the article about CGI doesn't say anything about them being Canadian.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)I never thought of it like that. They were probably rolling and laughing at the shitpile system as they slopped the code together
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)didn't sabotage the system on some level!
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)appleannie1
(5,067 posts)The contract to build Healthcare.gov, issued to the CGI Federal unit of Montreal-based CGI Group, has come under scrutiny after the site
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)Canada...
Here we go!
NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)Now, yes, they haven't been trendsetting enough to engineer the Baconburger
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)needs to monitor and test performance. That did not happen here. Fortunately, government stays on the private insurers who handle Medicare.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)wouldn't give the funding for it.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)people.
Error message - Due to Republicans, This Will Take Awhile.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)legcramp
(288 posts)and a jury voted to hide it because.....
It was an article from Infoworld, not some RW site but an IT site.
http://www.infoworld.com/t/e-government/how-federal-cronies-built-and-botched-healthcaregov-228724
It's EFF'ed up folks and the sooner it's addressed the better.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)When Democrats start hiding "inconvenient truths" from each other for political reasons, we're in some really deep shit.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)I agree with your sentiment.
If you can't admit what's wrong, how will it ever be fixed? And this MUST be fixed.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)now would we?
Or am I being entirely unfair?
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)of course you are going to have this particular reaction. Even emotionally! The first thing you learn in IT is that the defensive crouch is the road to failure, and if you don't learn that, you can be brilliant but a consistent failure in practice.
Haven't we all worked on projects with great commitment? And the measure of our commitment was our willingness to identify problems and resolve them to make them work. So naturally, we extend from that to ACA must work, therefore find and fix problems ASAP, which requires rigorous honesty about the problems. If you didn't want a project to fly, you wouldn't do that.
But to people who don't have that background, perhaps pointing out that these are not "glitches" and "bugs" but a very serious problem looks like criticism designed to destroy.
I'm not completely sure, because I have done this work since my late teens, so the IT mindset is pretty deeply embedded. But I suspect that is the reason for the differing reactions.
Also, in fairness to the non-IT crowd, you have non-IT people from the government talking about the situation telling them that these are "glitches" that will soon be fixed, so what are they to think?
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)From the article:
One other name in particular on the contractor list probably won't be familiar to readers, but ought to be from now on: Science Applications International Corp., or SAIC. Nominally a defense contractor, SAIC has been involved with many government projects with ghastly end results, such as New York City's fraud- and corruption-riddled $600 million CityTime payroll software boondoggle. When the East Bay Express reported on Oakand (sic), Calif.'s surveillance plan, it was worried about SAIC's involvement in that project as well, not least because the people hiring SAIC for the job seemed unaware of the company's reputation
legcramp
(288 posts)I guess it's rude and insensitive to point out the truth of the matter if it might be embarrassing to someone.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)...we're so fucked.
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)Northrop had contracts in Iraq if I recall correctly. The old crony system is still alive and well.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)So they were responsible for "building it". CMS is part of the government. The specifications came from multiple sources, all government.
CMS contracted out pieces of the job to various private organizations who do this type of stuff. That's pretty normal for government operations. Because CMS was the contractor, CMS was responsible for choosing most of the right stuff, providing information on what had to be done, and making sure that all the pieces fit together at the end. In larger jobs like this, often the government hires a company to be the contractor, but in this case that didn't happen.
I know by now many of us are wishing they had just called Amazon, but hey.