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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:06 PM Oct 2013

A note about "Cali."

{rant}
The state on the U.S. Pacific Coast is called California. It's not "Cali." People who actually live in California never call the state "Cali." People in the Midwest call it "Cali." Teenage girls in Iowa, dreaming of Hollywood, call it "Cali."

Sometimes, people who moved to California recently from places elsewhere in the US call it "Cali," but they are generally quickly corrected about the usage.

People in other states also refer to San Francisco as "Frisco," too. That's also very annoying to people who make their home in San Francisco.

So, if you're going to California, you're welcome to come with flowers in your hair, but please don't call the state "Cali." Nobody calls California "Cali" without making it abundantly clear that they aren't from California. Thanks!
{/rant}

N.B. I was born in "Zona" but moved to California at the age of 3 months. I lived in California for 56 years, with a short time spent in other states. Now I live in "Minnie."

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A note about "Cali." (Original Post) MineralMan Oct 2013 OP
sometimes an abbreviation is okay FirstLight Oct 2013 #1
You're right. This is DU, and I'm a DUer. MineralMan Oct 2013 #2
Cali? Isn't that where Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #52
It's a long way from Wesconsin, though. MineralMan Oct 2013 #83
And...WisCONsin! cynzke Oct 2013 #200
No, Frisco is a suburb of Dallas, Texas. broiles Oct 2013 #129
No, yo're wrong! Ace Acme Oct 2013 #190
You just had to do it, didn't you? NBachers Oct 2013 #245
I'm so ashamed of myself… Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #250
If all I had to worry about was someone abbreviating the name of my state... Mojorabbit Oct 2013 #310
One wonders how San Francisco residents felt about Otis Redding. pepperbear Oct 2013 #233
Technically speaking, Otis was sitting on a pier... Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2013 #246
Same with people who call San Antonio San Antone. broiles Oct 2013 #3
Yes. It is the same thing. MineralMan Oct 2013 #11
see my reply above Link Speed Oct 2013 #145
Growing up in deep East Texas in the '50s Link Speed Oct 2013 #140
Didn't Western swingers call it San Antone? Chipper Chat Oct 2013 #146
Natives of San Antonio hate it. East Texans often err, i.e. Gormert. broiles Oct 2013 #155
Bob Wills called it "San Antone", so that's good enough for me. It's "San Antone". nt SDjack Oct 2013 #282
Bob wasn't from San Antonio. broiles Oct 2013 #311
And yet.. SQUEE Oct 2013 #314
Yes, but he was wrong about how to pronounce San Antonio. broiles Oct 2013 #315
I say I live in So Cal because I do. Tikki Oct 2013 #4
Now you have done it! rufus dog Oct 2013 #154
I kind of wish Pasadena, it is beautiful there...actually, I am way closer to the Coast.. Tikki Oct 2013 #162
Where does the Central Coast start? rufus dog Oct 2013 #169
See, Wikki says Monterey to Pt. Mugu..that definitely includes Ventura County.. Tikki Oct 2013 #174
Mugu seems pretty far south to be 'Central Coast' petronius Oct 2013 #195
The Central Coast is comprised of the Tri-Counties: SLO, SB, and Ventura Hekate Oct 2013 #258
Helllo! PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #318
You live in such an amazing community...sometimes we pick a neighborhood there and drive.. Tikki Oct 2013 #321
I know.. PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #328
I'll let my son... reACTIONary Oct 2013 #234
And USC doesn't like to be called Southern Cal because Cal Berkeley, R B Garr Oct 2013 #260
Actually Northern California is often referred to as Purrfessor Oct 2013 #279
I used to live in So Ill Ace Acme Oct 2013 #198
"Inland Empire" - was that one of Ghengis Khan's territories? IDemo Oct 2013 #217
I grew up in So Cal (saying So Cal) anneboleyn Oct 2013 #281
Uff Da! GeorgeGist Oct 2013 #5
Uff da, indeed! MineralMan Oct 2013 #13
LLCoolJ did ismnotwasm Oct 2013 #6
And that's why it's stupid. Iggo Oct 2013 #15
Can't argue with that ismnotwasm Oct 2013 #84
LL Cool J - Hmm... MineralMan Oct 2013 #24
I kinda of like him ismnotwasm Oct 2013 #82
I was born in Los Angeles MurrayDelph Oct 2013 #165
He kinda did start it, and he proves the OP's point as James is from NY. Born there. Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #80
I bet you're right ismnotwasm Oct 2013 #90
I've learned to treat use of the term gently in younger people because it is in Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #120
Heh! ismnotwasm Oct 2013 #123
On second thought. Puglover Oct 2013 #124
In your opinion... My sister-in-law, born and raised in California. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #7
It's pronounced Kaley-forn-ya MattBaggins Oct 2013 #87
I thought our Cali was in trouble! B2G Oct 2013 #8
ditto - me too! NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #12
Nah. She lives in Vermont or something. MineralMan Oct 2013 #16
Vermont? Really? Cirque du So-What Oct 2013 #27
East Lake Wobegon, VT evidently n/t Fumesucker Oct 2013 #33
Most likely Caledonia County seveneyes Oct 2013 #34
....greetings from North Cacky Lacky! NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #9
It wasnt even cool when LL Cool J did it. bunnies Oct 2013 #10
See... PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #14
Indeed. They're pretty clear on it, too. MineralMan Oct 2013 #20
well the language will be be similar..... Bennyboy Oct 2013 #28
De veras! Tienes razón. MineralMan Oct 2013 #31
Si, si, Bennyboy Oct 2013 #91
Similar language tricked that Sacramento dude years ago Brother Buzz Oct 2013 #160
I was once on a flight between LAX and Oakland Zorro Oct 2013 #292
i've heard a story about someone with a slight accent flying to oakland and winding up in unblock Oct 2013 #121
Cool. I'd take a trip to Auckland anytime. MineralMan Oct 2013 #127
That is a shortened name for Santiago de Cali, Colombia eom MyNameGoesHere Oct 2013 #183
^^^ This. Iggo Oct 2013 #114
I was an Okie from Oklahoma, though not from Muskogee. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #17
Not a Boomer? n/t IDemo Oct 2013 #219
Good luck with that. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #18
I lived in the Frisco area of Cali for a short while seveneyes Oct 2013 #19
The City! I LOVE "Frisco!" anneboleyn Oct 2013 #283
I am a third genration Californian Bennyboy Oct 2013 #21
Yep, born and raised in the Bay Area. TDale313 Oct 2013 #112
NORCAL/SOCAL I use all the time Bennyboy Oct 2013 #133
NorCal always amuses me a bit, because it seems that most of the people who use it petronius Oct 2013 #144
Mid Cal, that's me in Sacramento..... Bennyboy Oct 2013 #164
Wow, you're claiming quite a swath of territory for NorCal petronius Oct 2013 #191
Right.... Bennyboy Oct 2013 #218
As a Native born San Franciscan yuiyoshida Dec 2016 #353
It IS "The City!" I miss SF...sniffles. anneboleyn Oct 2013 #284
Geez. roamer65 Oct 2013 #22
"We're from 'Frisco!" johnp3907 Oct 2013 #23
And while we're at it, it's not GREEN Bay, it's Green BAY. postulater Oct 2013 #25
The Bay is the reason for the name, after all. MineralMan Oct 2013 #37
While we're at it - there is way more to New york State than the city of New York hedgehog Oct 2013 #26
Yup- I grew up in Spencerport, west of Rochester - 350 miles from New York City NBachers Oct 2013 #249
what's with "socal" and "nocal"? Mosby Oct 2013 #29
Because it's a long state. Michigan does it too, with Yoopers and Lowpers. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #35
Yoopers also call us lower peninsula folks "trolls". roamer65 Oct 2013 #42
Heh. Having been born in Milwaukee, I tend to call the U.P. Wisconsin... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #53
It was Wisconsin until 1836 or so. roamer65 Oct 2013 #67
Yes, as most schoolchildren on both sides of Lake Michigan had to learn in 4th grade. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #70
Yah. It's Yoopers and Trolls though. MineralMan Oct 2013 #86
The troll thing is relatively recent. It was Yoopers and Lowpers for the 27 years I lived there. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #88
The "eh" is pure Canuckistani from da udder sida da Soo. Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #100
Right now, I'm working on a website for a business in Ironwood. MineralMan Oct 2013 #113
Yoost don' get lost in Hurley. Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #168
Canadian is sneaking over into Michigan. roamer65 Oct 2013 #271
Because they are two entirely different states sharing one government that is mostly Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #101
This^^^ Hekate Oct 2013 #261
NorCal and SoCal. I've lived in both. Throd Oct 2013 #319
Well, to be fair, they can call it anything they like as long as they don't mind being seen OregonBlue Oct 2013 #30
not quite right grasswire Oct 2013 #47
Correct. Most people manage the Or-y- bit. It's the gun/gone that throws them. OregonBlue Oct 2013 #289
I always enjoy them trying to pronounce Yachats. Shrike47 Oct 2013 #247
LOL. Half of the people in Oregon can't pronounce Yachats. OregonBlue Oct 2013 #288
Wrong. Born and raised NDak and MN and it is GobBluth Oct 2013 #305
You are very correct MindPilot Oct 2013 #32
Doesn't everyone do that? Codeine Oct 2013 #38
I always refer to the 405 as zappaman Oct 2013 #43
Having to drive in Southern California traffic a few years back... roamer65 Oct 2013 #55
Funny. That's what I call it, too. MineralMan Oct 2013 #99
In Virginia, I never heard a "the" prefix arcane1 Oct 2013 #94
I never put "the" before a highway number. Nine Oct 2013 #98
How odd. Codeine Oct 2013 #102
In the backwoods of Ohio we say the interstate since there is only one around here. n/t doc03 Oct 2013 #151
And how do they refer to the Buckeyes? rufus dog Oct 2013 #163
We call OSU other names up here in Michigan. roamer65 Oct 2013 #274
same here, but from Northern California NuttyFluffers Oct 2013 #300
Up here in Oregon, we say oregonjen Oct 2013 #110
I know, huh? MindPilot Oct 2013 #172
When I first moved here (1981) that "the" preface was seen as a solely Socal usage. pinto Oct 2013 #71
I lived in a few other places as a kid. Codeine Oct 2013 #118
No one native to the SF Bay area prefaces numbered highways with "the." Gormy Cuss Oct 2013 #79
Actually a person should take Highway 101 or Interstate 5 going either direction Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #117
And San Franciscans don't call Highway 1 "PCH" either. Gormy Cuss Oct 2013 #125
Yes, you're risking censure and disapproval if you apply Los Angeles terminology NBachers Oct 2013 #256
Oddly enough, the same applies in the Buffalo area. hedgehog Oct 2013 #149
Buffalo people put the "the" in front of freeway numbers, or the the other way? petronius Oct 2013 #187
Ask her where the Kensington Exit is relative to the Youngman, hedgehog Oct 2013 #193
Good test, except that she learned to drive in California - there may be a corrupting influence petronius Oct 2013 #197
Born, raised, lived here half my life BootinUp Oct 2013 #36
Us 'braskans call it frogmarch Oct 2013 #39
It may be necessary to start a movement to stop this outrage. Zorra Oct 2013 #40
LOL. n/t whathehell Oct 2013 #333
I've lived in California most of my life.. zappaman Oct 2013 #41
I do find myself asking my grandson to go get the 'changer' for me when I want.. Tikki Oct 2013 #62
"clicker" works too. n/t zappaman Oct 2013 #65
yep the clicker arely staircase Oct 2013 #157
no, its a directional or a blinker. dionysus Oct 2013 #215
.your blinkers are you hazard lights. nt arely staircase Oct 2013 #226
those are flashers Go Vols Oct 2013 #257
When I was in high school, someone gave me a MineralMan Oct 2013 #105
My husband insists it's a kvetcher Hekate Oct 2013 #262
So you call it Cali to the non natives to help out with geography? Rex Oct 2013 #89
I love California, lived there for quite awhile and frequently going back for visits... whathehell Oct 2013 #44
Well, I think people like it when others have respect for the place they are visiting Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #243
Maybe but I think some states and cities take themselves a little too seriously whathehell Oct 2013 #330
K.San Franciscans don't like "Frisco". Respect that is affection. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #347
Sorry, but I disagree whathehell Oct 2013 #352
I lived in Vegas... Callmecrazy Oct 2013 #45
Yep, pet peeve among us native Nevadans is that NevAHHHHHda crap, trying to sound British. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #51
its a spanish word Mosby Oct 2013 #161
Because we're not speaking Spanish when we use it. We're speaking English. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #221
We DON'T want to change the pronunciation. Especially to suit some East Coast city dudes. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #222
How about those Any coast Spanish speaking dudes or dudettes whathehell Oct 2013 #334
Haven't heard Hooterville, kiva Oct 2013 #95
Really? Callmecrazy Oct 2013 #108
I moved here in the late 90s, kiva Oct 2013 #116
I lived on the east side, at Sahara and Nellis... Callmecrazy Oct 2013 #132
I actually do like Vegas kiva Oct 2013 #205
Silly thing to rant about, particularly since you don't even live in CA. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #46
really. who cares what people call something Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #210
Tangent alert. If you live in Washington, be aware that your state's name doesn't have an "r". lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #48
People from Minnersota will put one in there for you, ya. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #69
Call it whatever you want zappaman Oct 2013 #49
But, is it in the South?? kentuck Oct 2013 #50
Grampa Simpson? Is that you? Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #54
that's right, no state in the union shortens its name. it's "jersey", not "jers", for instance. unblock Oct 2013 #56
Tex Rex Oct 2013 #58
yeah, tex is usually a person, not the state. but "pee-ay" works for pennsylvania. unblock Oct 2013 #61
I'm going back to Cali. Rex Oct 2013 #64
Stay in Denmark. n/t zappaman Oct 2013 #66
You mean Den Den? Rex Oct 2013 #73
You just gave yourself away... zappaman Oct 2013 #77
Hmm the kids call it 'Mark Rex Oct 2013 #81
Pics? n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #130
Sure thing copper. Rex Oct 2013 #135
Is it like this? Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #138
Yes! Rex Oct 2013 #147
But the cool kids call it MarkyMark. cui bono Oct 2013 #237
It's NUU jersey, thank you. LiberalEsto Oct 2013 #139
In Balmer? Shrike47 Oct 2013 #253
Monkey County LiberalEsto Oct 2013 #254
I have heard Massachusetts called Mass a few times :P (nt) LostOne4Ever Oct 2013 #224
Anyone who calls New Jersey "Jersey" is eligible to star in... Walk away Oct 2013 #230
Really? Not what I've experienced but okay. Rex Oct 2013 #57
I use to live in Cali pintobean Oct 2013 #59
If one isn't from Cali(fornia), and isn't attempting thru colloquialisms to fool others Schema Thing Oct 2013 #60
is Twin Town still okay? hfojvt Oct 2013 #63
I so thought this was going to be in reference to the DUer named 'cali'. renie408 Oct 2013 #68
Me too! Rex Oct 2013 #76
I hear rappers from out here Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #72
yep, it's definitely a hip hop thing.. frylock Oct 2013 #177
and its Nuh Vad Uh reddread Oct 2013 #74
I have a hard time with that... Silent3 Oct 2013 #307
you wont hear the those pronunciations/words from locals reddread Oct 2013 #308
I don't know anyone from the midwest who calls it that. ballabosh Oct 2013 #75
And don't call Chicago "Chi-town! Silver Swan Oct 2013 #267
Whoa... Agschmid Oct 2013 #78
Come up to NorCali, we ain't trippin'! NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #93
I hear SoCal and NoCal used by residents.... HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #85
It can be SoCal but never NoCal but rather NorCal. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #236
No one in Portland, OR actually calls it "Portlandia", either. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #92
Funny I am too davidpdx Oct 2013 #350
Now I see. This is part of a DU pile-on... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #96
So that is the reason for the season. Rex Oct 2013 #104
Yup. Puglover Oct 2013 #131
Hey you! ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #137
I don't see that this has anything to do with that thread, so ease your conscience if you like. nt Hekate Oct 2013 #264
And it's California, not "Cali." Nobody who is actually from California calls it "Cali." Ptah Oct 2013 #268
Sorry, but the OP admitted it was "silliness." No need to defend the indefensible. n/t ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #269
This poster was defending marriage equality Puglover Oct 2013 #285
The level of cruelty here amazes me. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #286
Yup and if you take issue Puglover Oct 2013 #287
He would not have posted it if the other thread was not there. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #275
Look again. It has everything to do with that thread. mtnester Oct 2013 #348
I lived in california longer than you. xchrom Oct 2013 #97
+1 Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #111
+2 bravenak Oct 2013 #240
Is this a Southern California thing? Because I have lived here for 30 years... Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #244
I'm a CA native and have never heard "Cali" in reference to California either BuddhaGirl Oct 2013 #272
I moved to Huntington Beach when I was 20 Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #295
Old Virginny asks, "what's the kerfluffle?" sofa king Oct 2013 #103
San Francisky?... SidDithers Oct 2013 #106
Maybe in MineralMan land, but we've been calling it Cali since at least the '30s. Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #107
I prefer Cali. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #109
Me too. laundry_queen Oct 2013 #119
That's for sure. LWolf Oct 2013 #185
I'll bet you add a lot LWolf Oct 2013 #180
Case in point. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #299
As you ably demonstrated that LWolf Oct 2013 #303
I love DU discussion threads SamYeager Oct 2013 #115
It's the weekend. That's the time for DU silliness. MineralMan Oct 2013 #122
It's mean, and I hate that I got sucked into it...thinking it was just a discussion. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #143
+1 - Meanness masked as silliness is the worst! hedgehog Oct 2013 #148
Yes, this thread is very mean-spirited Grateful for Hope Oct 2013 #186
Exactly. I'd say the OP should be ashamed Heddi Oct 2013 #199
Speaking of posting slurs, you might give that one up. Hekate Oct 2013 #265
Gee how funny you were so adamant Puglover Oct 2013 #270
Ah well, let me join the Jane Fonda of DU in the Hall of the Unforgivables Hekate Oct 2013 #273
Puhleeze Puglover Oct 2013 #277
+1 Rex Oct 2013 #336
Please inform me when I, like the OP, happily post on Free REpublic Heddi Oct 2013 #278
I don't agree it is all good. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #241
I don't think the purpose was a feel good thread for us to be silly in. Rex Oct 2013 #337
It is an unfortunate thread but not surprising. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #189
I First Heard This Term From A Resident of California otohara Oct 2013 #126
In 1975 when three of us hitchhiked from upstate NY it was orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #128
jeeez, I live in St Pete Florida and onethatcares Oct 2013 #134
da 'burg! HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #255
I was born in Cali, lived in Neva, Oreg, Flori, Ohio, Newj, and now in Wash. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #136
You've been farther around the world.. orpupilofnature57 Oct 2013 #142
Wish I could rec a post. n/t SamYeager Oct 2013 #196
I am in Ohio and never heard it called cali and never heard frisco except maybe on TV. I toured doc03 Oct 2013 #141
I don’t care if people say “Cali” or “Frisco," even though I never refer to my state & city that way deurbano Oct 2013 #150
Don't call me Tex, either. PDittie Oct 2013 #152
Born and raised in the San Francisco bay area, 58 years. Adsos Letter Oct 2013 #153
Hi, Adsos. Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #159
Hi, Blue. Adsos Letter Oct 2013 #166
We had to dress up to go into The City. deurbano Oct 2013 #173
I didn't necessarily call it that when I lived there... Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #181
1969-70 was when I was visiting! Interesting time for you to live in San Francisco. deurbano Oct 2013 #184
It was fun. I had a blast. Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #213
You can call my state "Pennsy" if you want; just don't abbreviate it "Penn."! WinkyDink Oct 2013 #156
San Francisco is known as The City to people who live there. Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #158
I have never in my entire life heard it referred to as "Cali" Skittles Oct 2013 #167
you've never heard the song by LL COOL J from 1988 "I'm Going Back To Cali"? :) Divine Discontent Oct 2013 #229
nope Skittles Oct 2013 #242
you're a lucky one. lol Divine Discontent Oct 2013 #297
I thought that was Biggie. I must be wrong. byronius Oct 2013 #302
I thought "cali" is a person and not a state TexasProgresive Oct 2013 #170
born in so cal and have lived here my entire life, and i refer to it as cali frylock Oct 2013 #171
Lived there most of my like and the only ones I heard call it "cali" were in the Valley. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #192
Live in the greater Los Angeles area Iliyah Oct 2013 #175
BAMA ThoughtCriminal Oct 2013 #176
I've heard people call it "Cal"… regnaD kciN Oct 2013 #178
at first I thought Cali, Colombia mitchtv Oct 2013 #179
There may be a generational effect drmeow Oct 2013 #182
Try to find someone here in Boston who calls it "Beantown" HomerRamone Oct 2013 #188
I've lived here my whole life, and I don't think I've ever heard Cali. Frisco, yeah. tofuandbeer Oct 2013 #194
It's not San Franscico Lordquinton Oct 2013 #201
You should be honest and let people know you're using this OP to call out Nadin Heddi Oct 2013 #202
you already made your point, and reacting probably BuddhaGirl Oct 2013 #276
I thought this was about DU's own poster, Cali. Faygo Kid Oct 2013 #203
zona & minnie--LOL. (yeah, i'm from ill)n/t orleans Oct 2013 #204
i can't tell if you're serious or not Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #206
Well, considering the poster used to call African Americans "chimps" on his first love board FR Dragonfli Oct 2013 #296
Is calling California "Cali" the same as calling Pakistan "Paki" ... oldhippie Oct 2013 #207
I'm goin' back to cali, I'm goin' back cali, I'm goin' back to cali... Javaman Oct 2013 #208
On the other hand, "L.A." is universally accepted Zambero Oct 2013 #209
N.B. -- And for the last time, the 's' in Illinois is SILENT!!!!!! nt ColesCountyDem Oct 2013 #211
Back in the 80s, sulphurdunn Oct 2013 #212
I live in Los Angeles, don't care what you call us, the state or the cities because we're cool. nt TeamPooka Oct 2013 #214
Lived here my whole life and don't mind it when people call it "cali" tjwash Oct 2013 #216
But I abbreviate everything! Violet_Crumble Oct 2013 #220
I didn't realize this was an issue. Hosnon Oct 2013 #223
lol! I don't really think it is one. Divine Discontent Oct 2013 #231
Note to ESPN announcers and others: IDemo Oct 2013 #225
Missouri. Not MissourAH. And it's The Plaza, not The Plaahzaah for fuck's sake. REP Oct 2013 #227
Not true. bravenak Oct 2013 #228
I lived there as well.... trumad Oct 2013 #316
A grumpy semi call out thread!!!! LostOne4Ever Oct 2013 #232
Stupid and immature call out thread. I live in SoCal and I don't care if people say Cali cui bono Oct 2013 #235
Well gosh Oilwellian Oct 2013 #238
Useta live in Cali, now I live in Orey exlrrp Oct 2013 #239
I love it here in Vermontie. Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #248
Since 58, born in Downey, kidhood in Orange and living around the Riverside Cali nolabels Oct 2013 #298
- IDemo Oct 2013 #251
I saw what you did there Hekate Oct 2013 #252
Where I'm from pipi_k Oct 2013 #259
Well, I'm from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern dchill Oct 2013 #263
I'm from Dabronx, but lived in Calafawnyer most my life. meti57b Oct 2013 #266
I'm from dabronx too, and lived in Cali for a few yeez myself dorkzilla Oct 2013 #290
"Frisco" is "the City" (I lived in the Bay Area) and U.C. Berkeley is "Cal" anneboleyn Oct 2013 #280
I'm going to ONLY call it Cali from now on whenever referring to it on DU... phleshdef Oct 2013 #291
I think I'll join you. Union Scribe Oct 2013 #293
Do you have a link showing that teenage girls in Iowa call California "Cali?" cyberswede Oct 2013 #294
Funny and true. I'm from The Big Mater (Sacramento), which no one who lives here calls 'Sacto'. byronius Oct 2013 #301
The "T" is silent. Sacramenno, or "Sackermenna" up in Placerville. Throd Oct 2013 #320
Meanwhile, in Ohio, we specialize in linguistic aberrations. riqster Oct 2013 #304
Have you heard? Cali's Lt. Gov. Newsom to lead pot legalization panel Autumn Oct 2013 #306
Here's the actual headline, from the link in that OP: MineralMan Oct 2013 #309
Headline only has to be exact in LBN. Autumn Oct 2013 #312
That's not really my point. MineralMan Oct 2013 #324
yeah...and then she walked away trumad Oct 2013 #332
Actually no. She is a very nice and thoughtful person. MineralMan Oct 2013 #339
Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali L0oniX Oct 2013 #313
ARGH!!!11! MineralMan Oct 2013 #317
Please keep calling it "Cali" so we can identify outsiders and morons. Throd Oct 2013 #322
I don't ever call it "Cali." MineralMan Oct 2013 #323
It sounds like you think they may be one and the same.. whathehell Oct 2013 #335
Every time I see this thread, I think it is about a DUer magical thyme Oct 2013 #325
It's not about any poster at all. MineralMan Oct 2013 #326
I realize that, MM. magical thyme Oct 2013 #331
"THEY LIVE!" Need to go no Further or else..TROUBLE! n/t KoKo Oct 2013 #343
From another blog: Why Do People Always Refer to Pennsylvania as "P.A.?" John1956PA Oct 2013 #327
It is easy to say, and is the postal abbreviation. MineralMan Oct 2013 #338
Cali dlwickham Oct 2013 #329
Did you type all of those individually? MineralMan Oct 2013 #340
thank you dlwickham Oct 2013 #346
While we're at it, please don't call Chicago "Chi-town." Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2013 #341
I call Chicago Chicago. Love that city. MineralMan Oct 2013 #342
(Just a public service announcement. I didn't mean you personally, MM.) Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2013 #344
I know. MineralMan Oct 2013 #345
Truckers call it the Big Windy, I called it a B Calm Oct 2013 #349
I grew up in Iowa and I never heard anyone call it Cali liberal N proud Oct 2013 #351

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
1. sometimes an abbreviation is okay
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:09 PM
Oct 2013

like when you need to shorten the title of a thread...this is not the Associated Press, and you are not the editor

but thanks for the distinction. whatev.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
2. You're right. This is DU, and I'm a DUer.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:10 PM
Oct 2013

So, I sometimes comment on things that interest me. Thanks for reading my post and for kicking it back up in the thread list. Much appreciated.

If I need to abbreviate California, I use CA, the postal abbreviation. In years past, the postal abbreviation was Calif. It's never been "Cali."

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
200. And...WisCONsin!
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:39 PM
Oct 2013

Boy, I hate when people pronounce it with that hard "C" syllable. It should be Wi scone sin. The s and c are pronounced together, sort of like that Scandinavian toast....skol.....scon!

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
310. If all I had to worry about was someone abbreviating the name of my state...
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 01:02 PM
Oct 2013

I would be in wonderful shape. You were very rude to the poster who did this in another thread. I thought it was a bit over the top. Life is too short to get bent out of shape for something so unimportant.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
246. Technically speaking, Otis was sitting on a pier...
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 07:55 PM
Oct 2013

The dock is the area of water between two piers. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

Link Speed

(650 posts)
145. see my reply above
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:35 PM
Oct 2013

And to think I now reside in the SF Bay Area of Cali. It cracks me up to hear the tourists refer to 'SF' or 'Cali'.

 

Link Speed

(650 posts)
140. Growing up in deep East Texas in the '50s
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:32 PM
Oct 2013

at least half the people I knew called it San Antone. Everyone I knew was a Native Texan and I was not aware of anyone who had been to San Antonio. Until I was 13, I had only been as far west as Tyler, once. Heck, Beaumont was exotica to us.

Chipper Chat

(9,680 posts)
146. Didn't Western swingers call it San Antone?
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:35 PM
Oct 2013

"Houston, Austin, or San Antone. Gotta go. Got the Texas in my soul"
Bob Wills? Webb Pierce? Ernest Tubb?

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
154. Now you have done it!
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:44 PM
Oct 2013

It isn't NoCal or SoCal, and definitely not Southern Cal. (which is the name of a private school attended by mostly smart kids who are turned into arrogant asses by alumni)

For the next week you should be forced to use your entire address. For example, posts should be ended with Ms. Tikki DUer, Pasadena, Los Angeles County, California, United States of America.

No sarcasm, because I mean the part about USC!

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
162. I kind of wish Pasadena, it is beautiful there...actually, I am way closer to the Coast..
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:53 PM
Oct 2013

ok, Mrs. Tikki of Ventura County and the great debate of whether Ventura County is actually in the
Central Coast region of California OR Southern California but is in California, fer shur and very much part
of the United States of America.


Tikki

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
169. Where does the Central Coast start?
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:02 PM
Oct 2013

I was always under the impression that Santa Barbara was still SANTA BARBARA COUNTY, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

Come to think of it where does Central Coast/California end?

San Jose is definitely NoCal, I'm sorry SAN JOSE, SANTA CLARA COUNTY, CALIFORNIA.

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
174. See, Wikki says Monterey to Pt. Mugu..that definitely includes Ventura County..
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:11 PM
Oct 2013

Others say just North of Ventura up to just South of San Jose.

Here is what many consider California's GOLD COAST:
http://www.californiagoldcoastguide.com

I've always considered Malibu more of my neighbors than Reseda..
but as the crow flies they are about the same distance.


Tikki

petronius

(26,602 posts)
195. Mugu seems pretty far south to be 'Central Coast'
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:34 PM
Oct 2013

Looking at the coastline, I'd say Central Coast should be Point Pinos down to Point Conception. (Although Point Arguello would be equally arguable, I want to claim Jalama... )

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
258. The Central Coast is comprised of the Tri-Counties: SLO, SB, and Ventura
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:16 PM
Oct 2013

aka San Luis Obispo County, Santa Barbara County, and Ventura County

I don't know why there should be any difficulty identifying Ventura as part of the Central Coast. I know I am within hailing distance of HOME when I head down the Conejo Grade because when I get to the bottom I can roll down the windows of my car and breathe the air. Suddenly there is a faint sea-tang and a little coastal fog that feels so cooling to the skin. Long before I get to Summerland, the coastal curve of mountains in the distance embraces my soul.

Hekate
Goleta, CA

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
321. You live in such an amazing community...sometimes we pick a neighborhood there and drive..
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:46 PM
Oct 2013

around a bit and pick out the homes we wished we could live in.

The NUMB3RS House..

Tikki

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
328. I know..
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 04:45 PM
Oct 2013

I love all the Craftsman style houses, especially in SW Pasadena, over by S. Arroyo Blvd. I'm an apt. dweller myself

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
234. I'll let my son...
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 07:04 PM
Oct 2013

...know you consider him to have become an arrogant ass. You are right about him being smart, however.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
260. And USC doesn't like to be called Southern Cal because Cal Berkeley,
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:23 PM
Oct 2013

which is in Northern California, is officially called Cal. By calling USC Southern Cal, it sounds like it's a part of Cal Berkeley, only in the south, and it's not. The football fans and alum are especially sensitive to that, though it shouldn't really matter because Cal Berkeley is such a good school

Purrfessor

(1,188 posts)
279. Actually Northern California is often referred to as
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:08 PM
Oct 2013

NorCal, or Nor-Cal. I believe there is even a Nor-Cal Soccer League.

 

Ace Acme

(1,464 posts)
198. I used to live in So Ill
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:36 PM
Oct 2013

I miss it. I miss the sense of hope and possibility I had when I lived there.

I even miss the drunken college kids puking their guts out on So Ill Ave in Carbondale.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
217. "Inland Empire" - was that one of Ghengis Khan's territories?
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:35 PM
Oct 2013

I tease; I lived in the Anaheim area up until about the age of 10, but that was over 40 years ago. That may actually fit within the boundaries; don't recall it being called that back then, though.

ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
82. I kinda of like him
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:46 PM
Oct 2013

Actually I was born in San Francisco, California and have never used "Frisco" or "Cali" in my life. When that song come out--many moons ago, I wasn't sure what he was talking about...

Interesting thread.

MurrayDelph

(5,299 posts)
165. I was born in Los Angeles
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:54 PM
Oct 2013

and have used that particular F word once: I was attending a Westercon in San Francisco, and the guy next to me in the restaurant asked,

"What's going on? Some kinda SCI-FI convention?"

So I felt compelled to match his tone and answer "Yeah, we're holding it in FRISCO this year."

ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
90. I bet you're right
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:50 PM
Oct 2013

I don't know anybody who calls California "Cali"--I was born there, and still have relatives there, but never lived there, not really

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
120. I've learned to treat use of the term gently in younger people because it is in
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:04 PM
Oct 2013

the culture and it is always complimentary. I'll hip the to the right way later, but I no longer get the vapors about it. I do blame Cool James for the whole thing.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
34. Most likely Caledonia County
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:20 PM
Oct 2013

On the southern fringe of the Northeast Kingdom of Vermont. When I lived there we would often say we were headed south to Cali to hit the big city of Saint Jo.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
9. ....greetings from North Cacky Lacky!
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:12 PM
Oct 2013

(no idea where that came from, but it seems to be in use around here!).

Born in Little Rhody (that makes some sense)....but always remember meeting people who said "you are from Rhode Island - isn't that a city in Massachusetts?

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
20. Indeed. They're pretty clear on it, too.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:15 PM
Oct 2013

I'd forgotten about Cali, Colombia. I can imagine someone from Kansas calling to book a flight to Cali, and then getting off the plane and being somewhat confused.

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
160. Similar language tricked that Sacramento dude years ago
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:51 PM
Oct 2013

Lewis' mishap began March 31 when he flew home from a European vacation. He took an Air New Zealand London-to-Auckland flight and should have gotten off in Los Angeles and taken another plane to Oakland.

Instead, convinced that the Air New Zealand crew was directing Oakland-bound passengers into a transit area, Lewis headed off with the Auckland-bound passengers and later reboarded with them. Questioned by airplane personnel before the plane took off, he was asked twice if he was going to Auckland and twice answered affirmatively, according to an Air New Zealand spokesman.

'They Talk Different'

http://articles.latimes.com/1985-04-11/local/me-11793_1_auckland

Sacramento dude flies to Auckland and lowers the IQ of both cities (JOKE, OLD OKAY JOKE, OKAY )

On edit: Oops, unblock beat me

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
292. I was once on a flight between LAX and Oakland
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 12:04 AM
Oct 2013

and they returned the plane back to the gate, because apparently someone onboard the plane was actually booked to Auckland.

True story.

unblock

(52,253 posts)
121. i've heard a story about someone with a slight accent flying to oakland and winding up in
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:05 PM
Oct 2013

new zealand (aukland)!

all the hallmarks of an urban myth, so it must be true

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
127. Cool. I'd take a trip to Auckland anytime.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:07 PM
Oct 2013

I'd love to visit that part of the world. Can't afford it, though.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
17. I was an Okie from Oklahoma, though not from Muskogee.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:14 PM
Oct 2013

Moved out and never looked back. We called ourselves Okies, sang Oklahoma, and Oklahoma City was "The City," as in, "Goin to the city for brewsky." It was a strange place, even back then.

My step dad, a truck driver, called San Francisco "Frisco," Las Vegas, Lost Wages or Vegas, Chicago "Chi Town."

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
18. Good luck with that.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:14 PM
Oct 2013

As much as I agree with you: it grates on my sensibilities a little, like "Frisco", a growing number of young natives seem to be using "Cali" to self-identify.

Given my age, I'm willing to let go a little and let the younger residents have their way with it.

That, and it's just too late.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
19. I lived in the Frisco area of Cali for a short while
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:15 PM
Oct 2013

But I would never try to give the impression that I was from Frisco or even Cali.

 

Bennyboy

(10,440 posts)
21. I am a third genration Californian
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:15 PM
Oct 2013

and I use CALI (but always in caps) all the time on the computer, but never when speaking.

And "Frisco" rankles me as do most lame names for THE CITY........ or San Francisco...... (SF is passable) like "the gay bay", Frisco, San Fran (the announcer at the Niners game kept using it last week and I wanted to punch him in the mouth), and worst of all "Oakland West"......

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
112. Yep, born and raised in the Bay Area.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:59 PM
Oct 2013

It's always been San Francisco or The City to me. Never Frisco. Surest sign of someone not from the area. Not a fan of calling California Cali either. I have made the distinction of SoCal and NorCal, but usually online, not verbally.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
144. NorCal always amuses me a bit, because it seems that most of the people who use it
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:33 PM
Oct 2013

are really barely outside of MidCal. There's a whole lot of Cali north of what NorCal folks call NorCal...


(MidCal is my invention by the way - if it takes off, I want credit! )

 

Bennyboy

(10,440 posts)
164. Mid Cal, that's me in Sacramento.....
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:54 PM
Oct 2013

My home town. But being so provincial, NORCAL Starts at the Tehachapi's.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
191. Wow, you're claiming quite a swath of territory for NorCal
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:31 PM
Oct 2013


So you'd incorporate an east-west dimension in defining MidCal (as in, valley rather than coast)? Makes sense: I'd call my region CenCoCal, which wouldn't extend inland past the Coast Ranges...
 

Bennyboy

(10,440 posts)
218. Right....
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:38 PM
Oct 2013

Wow, you're claiming quite a swath of territory for NorCal" Well we don't really like to call people in Bakersfield NorCalians (Norcalites?)
Claim them we do, but we don't like it much.

NOCOCAL is Fort Bragg to the border.

BANOCAL is the area from Fort Bragg to Half Moon bay.
NOMID CAL redding and Shasta area.... MIDCAL Yuba City to Stockton, foothills to foothills. (UGH!)

postulater

(5,075 posts)
25. And while we're at it, it's not GREEN Bay, it's Green BAY.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:16 PM
Oct 2013

You can always tell an incomer by how they talk at the bubbler.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
37. The Bay is the reason for the name, after all.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:21 PM
Oct 2013

Most folks, though, don't even know there's a bay at all. Odd.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
26. While we're at it - there is way more to New york State than the city of New York
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:17 PM
Oct 2013
and way more to Upstate than the Hudson Valley!

NBachers

(17,120 posts)
249. Yup- I grew up in Spencerport, west of Rochester - 350 miles from New York City
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:02 PM
Oct 2013

but people from other parts of the country, when you say you're from New York State, think the entire state looks like Manhattan.

Mosby

(16,319 posts)
29. what's with "socal" and "nocal"?
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:18 PM
Oct 2013

Last edited Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:28 PM - Edit history (1)

I hear californians using those terms all the time, can't you just say "I'm from orange county". But I guess they think it sounds cool.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
35. Because it's a long state. Michigan does it too, with Yoopers and Lowpers.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:20 PM
Oct 2013

Although, most Lowpers don't call themselves that.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
67. It was Wisconsin until 1836 or so.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:39 PM
Oct 2013

To settle the border dispute with Ohio over Toledo, we were given the UP and statehood in exchange for our concession.

UP vs Toledo...we got the better deal.

Wisconsin Territory got completely shafted, of course.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
70. Yes, as most schoolchildren on both sides of Lake Michigan had to learn in 4th grade.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:41 PM
Oct 2013

At least it was 4th grade in Wisconsin.

My grandfather? Well he never gave it up.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
88. The troll thing is relatively recent. It was Yoopers and Lowpers for the 27 years I lived there.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:49 PM
Oct 2013

(with no eh, because I wasn't a Yooper)

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
113. Right now, I'm working on a website for a business in Ironwood.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:59 PM
Oct 2013

We had a discussion about whether to use the word "Yoopers" in the website. I'm probably going to drive up there soon, so I'll stop in and get a couple of frozen pasties to take home with me. But I'll have a couple in Ironwood while I'm there. One traditional and one Finnish.

What I can't figure out is why this particular business opened a store in Ironwood. Truly, I don't understand the owner's business model very well, I guess. But, hey, it's work, so...

I finish the work tomorrow morning.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
271. Canadian is sneaking over into Michigan.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 09:55 PM
Oct 2013

On occasion I am hearing "Eh" being attached over here in Michigan. Not a ton but I am hearing it on occasion...probably all that intermingling from free trade.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
101. Because they are two entirely different states sharing one government that is mostly
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:54 PM
Oct 2013

concerned with the inland or rural third Cali.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
30. Well, to be fair, they can call it anything they like as long as they don't mind being seen
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:19 PM
Oct 2013

as rubes. Cali and Frisco are big no noes.

For those not familiar with my state, it's pronounced Ore-gun. Like in gun. Not Ore-gone like in gone. Can always spot someone from the midwest because they all call it Ore-gone.

GobBluth

(109 posts)
305. Wrong. Born and raised NDak and MN and it is
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 09:41 AM
Oct 2013

OR-A-gone. Lol. Not sure if that is better. Well that's how I say it. Gonna ask my cousin if I drive her crazy with it.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
32. You are very correct
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:19 PM
Oct 2013

Funny though, we frequently refer to the bottom part as "Socal, but hardly anyone calls the upper part "Norcal". It's generally "Northern California" or "Above (or below) San Francisco". San Francisco is "Sanfran", Sacramento is "Sacto" or simply "sac". All numbered highways are prefaced with "the" as in "I was stuck on the eight-oh-five".

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
38. Doesn't everyone do that?
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:22 PM
Oct 2013

A person wouldn't say they were "stuck on four-oh-five", would they? That would really sound weird to my California ears.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
43. I always refer to the 405 as
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:26 PM
Oct 2013

the motherfucking 405.
When, oh when, is the construction going to be finished so we can get back to the normal shitty congestion?

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
55. Having to drive in Southern California traffic a few years back...
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:34 PM
Oct 2013

I recollect that word MF being used a lot in my rental car.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
99. Funny. That's what I call it, too.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:53 PM
Oct 2013

These days, I only drive it once or twice a year, when I fly out to visit my elderly parents. It doesn't matter how many lanes that add to that misbegotten excuse for a freeway. It's still jammed up most of the time. I schedule my flights to attempt to avoid rush hour, but on the 405, it's rush hour 24/7.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
94. In Virginia, I never heard a "the" prefix
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:51 PM
Oct 2013

But I hear it all the time in California. It really stood out at first, but now I barely notice it. It hasn't caught on for me though.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
163. And how do they refer to the Buckeyes?
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:53 PM
Oct 2013

THE Ohio State University! Reverence!

It is THE 405, because we hope if we bestow the proper reverence we won't be stuck on it for two hours to make a 60 mile trip.

oregonjen

(3,338 posts)
110. Up here in Oregon, we say
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:58 PM
Oct 2013

I was stuck on 405, without adding "the." Traffic was heavy on 217, 405, I-5, etc. I sometimes hear "the" added and it sounds strange to my ears.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
172. I know, huh?
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:05 PM
Oct 2013

That seems odd to be when I go to other states and I hear "I was caught in a check point on I-95" or "the turnpike" or "the Interstate" (like there's only one)

pinto

(106,886 posts)
71. When I first moved here (1981) that "the" preface was seen as a solely Socal usage.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:43 PM
Oct 2013

It wasn't called "the 101" until later. Now it's ubiquitous. (I live on the Central Coast). Locality terminology is interesting.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
118. I lived in a few other places as a kid.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:01 PM
Oct 2013

We always spoke of "the I-80" or "the 191" when we lived in Wyoming, but that could very well have been just because my parents were southern Californians. I wish I'd been old enough to pay attention to what terminology the locals used.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
79. No one native to the SF Bay area prefaces numbered highways with "the."
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:45 PM
Oct 2013

Most people who live here catch on to that pretty quickly. People in LA may take the 101 or the 5 to San Francisco but we take 101 or 5 to go to LA.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
117. Actually a person should take Highway 101 or Interstate 5 going either direction
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:01 PM
Oct 2013

But only if they are in too much of a hurry to take the Pacific Coast Highway.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
125. And San Franciscans don't call Highway 1 "PCH" either.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:06 PM
Oct 2013

That's another tip I got from a local when I first moved here. For me, an East Coast transplant, it was hard enough learning to call number roads "highways" rather than routes

NBachers

(17,120 posts)
256. Yes, you're risking censure and disapproval if you apply Los Angeles terminology
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:09 PM
Oct 2013

to Bay Area highways. When I grew up in New York, it was always "Expressway;" "Freeway" seems to be a real California expression.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
187. Buffalo people put the "the" in front of freeway numbers, or the the other way?
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:27 PM
Oct 2013

My wife is from there, but her real peeve is when people say "Upstate New York" to refer to Western New York...

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
193. Ask her where the Kensington Exit is relative to the Youngman,
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:31 PM
Oct 2013

and how to get from the Squajacada to the Niagara, and if any of thes are the I-90, the I-190 or the I-290!

petronius

(26,602 posts)
197. Good test, except that she learned to drive in California - there may be a corrupting influence
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:35 PM
Oct 2013

But I'll try and work those into a conversation...

BootinUp

(47,165 posts)
36. Born, raised, lived here half my life
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:21 PM
Oct 2013

I occasionally call it Cali, but thats because my wife and I used to sing this song verse when we were living elsewhere.


Zorra

(27,670 posts)
40. It may be necessary to start a movement to stop this outrage.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:23 PM
Oct 2013
[div style="display:inline; background-color:#FFFF66;"]DON'T CALI FORNICATE CALIFORNIA!

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
41. I've lived in California most of my life..
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:23 PM
Oct 2013

and have never ever heard anyone refer to it as "Cali".
Also, I have worked in the entertainment industry for most of my life as well and have never heard television referred to as "the teevee machine".
And I have a lot of friends who are journalists and have never heard them refer to themselves as a "journo".
But what do I know?


Tikki

(14,557 posts)
62. I do find myself asking my grandson to go get the 'changer' for me when I want..
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:38 PM
Oct 2013

to switch channels. He definitely knows what a changer is.

Tikki

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
105. When I was in high school, someone gave me a
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:56 PM
Oct 2013

1950s Zenith TV. It had a remote control connected to the TV with wires. It was great. You pushed the button and the channel changing dial went around, click, click, click. Oh, the technology we had!

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
262. My husband insists it's a kvetcher
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:30 PM
Oct 2013

I try as hard as I can not to call it that, because we former Hawai'ians know the darn thing is da clicka.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
89. So you call it Cali to the non natives to help out with geography?
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:50 PM
Oct 2013

Here in prudence Texas it is called the Land of Fornicators. I think that is harsh, but the people from Sugarland all go to Vegas (notice what I did there) so they have no room to talk.

Did you know the tides and the Moon allude Bill O Reilly?

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
44. I love California, lived there for quite awhile and frequently going back for visits...
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:26 PM
Oct 2013

and I never once heard it called "Cali"....That being said, I think we might all lighten up

about infinitesimal issues like this. I don't, for instance, give a shit whether people "make it clear",

abundantly or otherwise, if they are or aren't from California, or any other place for that matter.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
243. Well, I think people like it when others have respect for the place they are visiting
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 07:35 PM
Oct 2013

or referring to to get it right.

I grew up near Dətroit not Deetroit. It was Lake Huron but Port Yorn. And NewARK, DE... not Newərk NJ.

I live in San Francisco. I do not live in Frisco. I live in the state of California. I do not live in Cali.

We are not babies here. We can actually take the extra tenths of seconds to pronounce the name as expected from those who live there.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
330. Maybe but I think some states and cities take themselves a little too seriously
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 06:10 PM
Oct 2013

For instance, I could say "I'm from Philadelphia not 'Philly'" or "I now live in Chicago, not 'Chi-town'"

but I've never heard anyone from either of those cities complain on that score.

In our view, I believe, they're just nicknames, and may even express a bit of affection.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
352. Sorry, but I disagree
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 08:24 AM
Oct 2013

I think they're a bit full of themselves, and I think many of their neighbors to the south do too.

After all, you don't hear them whining about their city being referred to as "L.A".

That being said, I don't say "Frisco", but I do often call it "San Fran".

Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
45. I lived in Vegas...
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:28 PM
Oct 2013

We called it Vegas, And North Las Vegas is North Town and Henderson is Hooterville. But don't call Nevada Nevahda. They'll know you ain't from around here.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
51. Yep, pet peeve among us native Nevadans is that NevAHHHHHda crap, trying to sound British.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:30 PM
Oct 2013

Nuhvadda is the way we all say it.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
221. Because we're not speaking Spanish when we use it. We're speaking English.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:50 PM
Oct 2013

Nobody native to Nevada ever calls it Nevahda. And this goes way back, my family members born in the 1880s didn't, either.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
334. How about those Any coast Spanish speaking dudes or dudettes
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 07:09 PM
Oct 2013

who may actually know it's proper pronunciation?

Just sayin..

kiva

(4,373 posts)
95. Haven't heard Hooterville,
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:51 PM
Oct 2013

generally Hendertucky and North Town isn't familiar, but agree on Vegas and no Nevahda...unless you actually are from England, then it's OK

Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
108. Really?
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:57 PM
Oct 2013

I started hearing hooterville back in the 90's and my friends and I always called it that. North Town was pretty common too.
Times change I guess. I never heard Hendertucky but that's funny.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
116. I moved here in the late 90s,
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:01 PM
Oct 2013

so may have missed it, but yeah, Hendertucky does fit (with all love to my friends who live there).

Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
132. I lived on the east side, at Sahara and Nellis...
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:17 PM
Oct 2013

lack of work forced me to move. I don't miss it much.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
46. Silly thing to rant about, particularly since you don't even live in CA.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:28 PM
Oct 2013

We don't need to get all offended about something that bothers YOU.

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
210. really. who cares what people call something
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:04 PM
Oct 2013

I am a Cali native ans sometimes refer to the state as Cali,.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
48. Tangent alert. If you live in Washington, be aware that your state's name doesn't have an "r".
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:29 PM
Oct 2013

It's not "Warshington".

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
73. You mean Den Den?
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:43 PM
Oct 2013

Love the place, sometimes stinks...but I think those are the elderberries rotting in June.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
81. Hmm the kids call it 'Mark
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:46 PM
Oct 2013

but they are all into wearing their pants up around the armpits. Kids and fads.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
237. But the cool kids call it MarkyMark.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 07:07 PM
Oct 2013

I have cousins there. They are in the know. My mom's Danish but she's not that hip. When she was young they called it DannyDan.


Walk away

(9,494 posts)
230. Anyone who calls New Jersey "Jersey" is eligible to star in...
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:56 PM
Oct 2013

... "The real House Wives of NJ" or "The Jersey Shore".

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
59. I use to live in Cali
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:37 PM
Oct 2013

and made my way up to Frisco a few times.

A few people here get upset if someone calls our city St. Lou or St. Louie. They're mostly considered snobs. Most of us don't give a fuck. I suspect the same is true about most places.

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
60. If one isn't from Cali(fornia), and isn't attempting thru colloquialisms to fool others
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:37 PM
Oct 2013

into thinking they are from Cali(fornia), why shouldn't one use the shorthand "Cali" provided that their listeners will understand exactly what geographic boundary they are referencing?

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
63. is Twin Town still okay?
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:38 PM
Oct 2013

How about Californication?

Sometimes one likes to do what Marvin did.

"After what it had calculated to ten significant decimal places as being the precise length of pause most likely to convey a general contempt for all things mattressy, the robot continued to walk round in tight circles."

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
72. I hear rappers from out here
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:43 PM
Oct 2013

call it "Cali" and "Frisco" all the time, like JT the Bigga Figga and Spice 1.

Silent3

(15,231 posts)
307. I have a hard time with that...
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 09:55 AM
Oct 2013

I try to accept it and say it now, because after all, that seems to be what the majority of Nevada residents say they think the pronunciation should be.

I went a long, long time in my life, however, hearing "neh VAH duh" before ever hearing anyone talk about Nevadans having a different preference, and besides, "neh VAH duh" makes a whole lot more sense, knowing that it's a Spanish word after all, and that the a-as-in-cat sound isn't part of the Spanish language.

As for "Cali", well that's just sickeningly precious and obnoxious. I have no trouble avoiding that.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
308. you wont hear the those pronunciations/words from locals
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 10:15 AM
Oct 2013

I sure cant understand the correct pronunciation of "Versailles" and "Louisville" out here.
I just avoid using them if I can.
its pretty obvious I have "Californian" tatooed upon my forehead, anyway.

ballabosh

(330 posts)
75. I don't know anyone from the midwest who calls it that.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:43 PM
Oct 2013

I grew up in rural (very rural) Illinois and now am in Chicago. I've never called California Cali and I don't recall anyone I know ever calling it that. Maybe it's after my generation.

But to add to this thread, please don't pronounce the "s" at the end of Illinois (or as most people do, make it sound like a "z". That drives me crazy and I will correct you if you do it.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
92. No one in Portland, OR actually calls it "Portlandia", either.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:51 PM
Oct 2013

Although the show is funny.

As an ex-Californian, however, I reserve the right to call the state "Cal-eee-FOR-Nye-Ayyyyy"

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
350. Funny I am too
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 06:44 AM
Oct 2013

Just don't tell anyone I admitted it...oophs! Started watching Portlandia this year and was able to catch up on all four seasons.

I refer to California as the place most likely to fall in the ocean. Actually I hope that never happens because then they'll all come to Oregon and we have enough of them already.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
104. So that is the reason for the season.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:56 PM
Oct 2013

Know some old hippies from Cali that call it...Cali. Wow, imagine that.

Puglover

(16,380 posts)
285. This poster was defending marriage equality
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:26 PM
Oct 2013

being compared to a wedding between a tomato and a human being the day we got it.

Because it was a "joke". Yuck. Yuck. Yuck.

YOUR conscience is fine.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
286. The level of cruelty here amazes me.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:39 PM
Oct 2013

It's one thing when it's trolls, another entirely when it's people who are supposed to hold Democratic values.
It's disgusting how those "jokes" are allowed to stand and not apologized for.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
97. I lived in california longer than you.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:52 PM
Oct 2013

I called it Cali - others I knew - all natives - did as well.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
244. Is this a Southern California thing? Because I have lived here for 30 years...
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 07:45 PM
Oct 2013

and all my daughter's friends are natives and I have never heard anyone refer to California as Cali. We live in San Francisco and have many friends up in Northern California and visit them several times a year.

How do you use it? Like.. "I live in Cali," or, "I am from Cali." Or, "My address is, 5555 No. Elm, Huntington Beach, Cali."

I can't understand the context that you would use "Cali" in that it would make sense

BuddhaGirl

(3,608 posts)
272. I'm a CA native and have never heard "Cali" in reference to California either
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 09:56 PM
Oct 2013

I grew up in Huntington Beach and now live in SF

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
295. I moved to Huntington Beach when I was 20
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 12:56 AM
Oct 2013

and San Francisco when I was 28!

I am 56 years old now and have never regretted moving here. I love this city!

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
107. Maybe in MineralMan land, but we've been calling it Cali since at least the '30s.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:57 PM
Oct 2013

Now, calling San Francisco "Frisco" OTOH...

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
119. Me too.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:04 PM
Oct 2013

LOL, I'm going to file this in the "really? who gives a shit?" column. As others have noted - it's a pile on. And because of this, I'm going to use Cali all the time.

Cali Cali Cali Cali.

Yep, I'm immature like that.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
185. That's for sure.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:24 PM
Oct 2013

I know I brought work home this weekend, but I didn't know the middle schoolers were here too.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
180. I'll bet you add a lot
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:19 PM
Oct 2013

to any substantive discussion.

Not that what one chooses to call a state is substantive. Having lived in California for 38 years of my life, I always call it California.

I love the left coast. Go ahead. As another Californian once said, make my day.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
303. As you ably demonstrated that
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 09:21 AM
Oct 2013

you love "antagonizing" people, and are just fine with stereotyping, as well.

Neither are characteristics to be proud of; they both exhibit some of the worst of human nature, rather than the better.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
122. It's the weekend. That's the time for DU silliness.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:06 PM
Oct 2013

This thread is my contribution to that weekend tradition.

It's getting lots of kicks, so it's all good.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
143. It's mean, and I hate that I got sucked into it...thinking it was just a discussion.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:33 PM
Oct 2013

You should know how it feels to be ganged up on, MineralMan.

If this is DU "silliness," I think I'm taking the weekend off.

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
199. Exactly. I'd say the OP should be ashamed
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:38 PM
Oct 2013

but he rarely is, considering his nasty history of posting bigoted slurs against gays and blacks during the many years he was on FreeRepublic (posts which he say were part of the "freeper character" he had to maintain, and which he doesn't apologize for making), and the nasty "satire" he posted earlier this year when DOMA was overturned comparing gay marriage to a person marrying a tomato which he refused to delete despite being bigoted and homophobic.

This is just par for the course this poster.

Puglover

(16,380 posts)
270. Gee how funny you were so adamant
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 09:50 PM
Oct 2013

defending a post that compared marriage equality to marriage between a person and a tomato. On the day we got it. "But hey, it's a joke!"

How ironic you would proselytize about "slurs".

just sayin.

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
278. Please inform me when I, like the OP, happily post on Free REpublic
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:08 PM
Oct 2013

and make no apologies for the posts made on FR that use derogatory slurs against blacks (calling them "chimps", for example), or when I proudly post on DU that gay marriage is equal to human-tomato marriage.

Then you can accuse me of making "slurs"

Because I don't say hateful things about black people (or any other race) and I don't demean the civil rights of others. ANd I don't do it proudly, and repeatedly.

And when you defend those that make such slurs proudly, and repeatedly...well, just sayin'

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
337. I don't think the purpose was a feel good thread for us to be silly in.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 07:19 PM
Oct 2013

MM might pretend that is the reason now, but I don't believe him when he says that is the reason for this OP.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
126. I First Heard This Term From A Resident of California
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:07 PM
Oct 2013

born and raised - he started using Cali when he was a teen and still refers to it as Cali in his early 20's. All his male friends in CA use the term.

It's okay if you call my home city the mildly high city - not a big deal.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
136. I was born in Cali, lived in Neva, Oreg, Flori, Ohio, Newj, and now in Wash.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:26 PM
Oct 2013

But, I've always called them California, Nevada, Oregon, Florida, Ohio, New Jersey, and Washington. I also spent some time in Japa, Taiw, and Engl, Mexi and Cana.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
142. You've been farther around the world..
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:33 PM
Oct 2013

than most people have been around a pee pot, looking for the handle, No offense teabaggers .

doc03

(35,348 posts)
141. I am in Ohio and never heard it called cali and never heard frisco except maybe on TV. I toured
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:33 PM
Oct 2013

California last year and thought it was beautiful and the people I talked to were very nice. If you mention San Fransisco
here most people make some comment about gays. They think you are risking your life in LA they have to say something about the
gangs. We have a lot of close minded people prejudiced people here.

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
150. I don’t care if people say “Cali” or “Frisco," even though I never refer to my state & city that way
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:41 PM
Oct 2013

I’ve lived in California for all of my 59 years, except for the first two in the Mississippi Delta and the four years I spent in Vermont in my 20’s. Until I was 21, I lived in the Central Valley. For the last 33 years, I’ve lived in San Francisco.

I don’t care if people say “Cali” or “Frisco”… even though I never refer to my state and city that way. I also don’t care if people make fun of the South, the Central Valley, Vermont, California or San Francisco. (Well, when my right-wing, Ditto-head mother complains about how "ugly" San Francisco is... just because she hates the political environment... that does annoy me, especially considering the Central Valley hellhole she lives in!) I’m not sure I‘ve ever actually run into anyone—in person—making fun of Vermont, but the other places I’ve lived have all been frequently targeted… including by me!

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
173. We had to dress up to go into The City.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:06 PM
Oct 2013

I'm 59, and when I was I was 15 and visiting my friend in Modesto, her mom made us wear "nice" dresses when she took us on a trip to The City. (I lived in a more southern Central Valley town, and we never thought of L.A. in the same way the northern Californians thought of San Francisco.) My girlfriend and I just wanted to go meet some hippies, so we were a little overdressed! My husband (coincidentally, also from Modesto, though I met him later) said he had to wear a suit when he went to Giants games! (I've lived in "The City" for 33 years, now, so I don't tend to call it that anymore.)

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
181. I didn't necessarily call it that when I lived there...
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:19 PM
Oct 2013

1969-1970, but I did after I moved out to Bolinas (for obvious reasons, since Bolinas definitely ISN'T the City) and now, even when I've been in Alaska since 1975, I still call San Francisco "The City." Old habits are hard to break.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
213. It was fun. I had a blast.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:15 PM
Oct 2013

It's still hard for me to believe that I was only there in the city for two years because I had so many great adventures there, but when I count back, I realize I did move out to Bolinas in early 1971. I was there until 1974, then spent a year in Forbestown up in the foothills, and then on to Alaska in '75. I've been here ever since. If I were going to live anywhere besides Alaska, it would be the Bay Area. We still go down to visit every year.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
229. you've never heard the song by LL COOL J from 1988 "I'm Going Back To Cali"? :)
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:56 PM
Oct 2013

maybe I'm dating myself because he says, 'pop in a cassette and push play' in it. lol... I basically just remember most of the song is his saying "I'm going back to Cali Cali Cali... I don't think so", because he's East coast, which I guess makes the OP's point! lol



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TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
170. I thought "cali" is a person and not a state
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:04 PM
Oct 2013

cali posts regularly on DU and regularly gets my bowels in an uproar. However that is good because it gets me to think. Thanks cali wherever you are.

The state that anchors the far south west of the US (continental) is CALIFORNIA and its world class city is San Francisco-not Frisco and certainly not San Fran!!

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
176. BAMA
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:15 PM
Oct 2013

Usually spelled with all caps, is the school with that football team and sometimes the nickname for the state.

PS: War Eagle!

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
178. I've heard people call it "Cal"…
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:17 PM
Oct 2013

…or, if they lived in L.A., refer to their area as "SoCal," but never "Cali" -- which is actually a city in Colombia.

drmeow

(5,020 posts)
182. There may be a generational effect
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:19 PM
Oct 2013

I know a woman in her mid twenties from So Cal (I hope that's OK - at least in writing) who calls it Cali. As a 5th generation Californian (who moved to Zona it drives me effing NUTS

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
202. You should be honest and let people know you're using this OP to call out Nadin
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:41 PM
Oct 2013

instead of making it seem an innocent and silly post about the shortened name of a state.

This is a call out, it is a blatant call-out, and it's very nasty

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023885331

but we've learned to expect nothing less from the person who was a proud member of FreeREpublic for many years, who made numerous bigoted slurs against gays and blacks while on FR, and who just recently on DU compared gay marriage to a human marrying a tomato. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023105108

Stay classy, MineralMan. We can always count on you to raise the level of discourse on DU

BuddhaGirl

(3,608 posts)
276. you already made your point, and reacting probably
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:03 PM
Oct 2013

exactly how he wants you to.

Maybe it's time to move on?

Jus' saying.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
203. I thought this was about DU's own poster, Cali.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:46 PM
Oct 2013

With nearly 90,000 posts, a long-timer indeed: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=152034

Also hope that the biggest problem we face in the future is calling California "Cali".

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
206. i can't tell if you're serious or not
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:54 PM
Oct 2013

The vast majority of people i've known from the state use that word...of course most of the Californians I know are black, so maybe it is one of "our" things

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
296. Well, considering the poster used to call African Americans "chimps" on his first love board FR
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 01:02 AM
Oct 2013

That could explain why he so adamantly and completely hates "Cali" that he felt he needed an OP to rage against it.

He perhaps hates it because the "type" of people he hears call it that rankles his whiskers and feels the need to scold them until they speak the way the "proper" people do.

It could simply be he is a control freak with an attitude problem, I doubt even he knows why it offends him so much he thinks he needed an OP to set the entire country straight on how to speak to his satisfaction.

Just one of those mysteries I guess.

I think it's a stupid topic and a waste of pixels arranged on my screen, I only read through it to try to figure out why it was so damn important to him and thus ended up wasting my time.[center]

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
209. On the other hand, "L.A." is universally accepted
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:01 PM
Oct 2013

Residents of that city do not seem to have a "Frisco complex".

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
212. Back in the 80s,
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:13 PM
Oct 2013

when Washington was being annexed by Californian financial interests, large numbers of California yuppies emigrated to the North West. Many of them became TV personages on local stations. They began calling Puget Sound "The Puget Sound" being, as such people usually are, too shallow and glib to care or note that the names of "sounds" are traditionally not prefixed with an article. Those of us born and raised there grind our teeth when these fools mispronounce Puget Sound. They really should go home and call San Francisco Bay "The San Francisco Bay."

tjwash

(8,219 posts)
216. Lived here my whole life and don't mind it when people call it "cali"
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:24 PM
Oct 2013

I have always referred to San Diego Los Angeles and Ventura as So-Cal, Santa Barbara, and Pismo as the CC, and and San Francisco on up as No-Cal.

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
220. But I abbreviate everything!
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:49 PM
Oct 2013

For example, Brisbane is Brissy. I'm visiting the US either next year or the year after, and though as soon as I open my mouth people won't mistake me for a local, I promise I'll call places and people by their full names

Hosnon

(7,800 posts)
223. I didn't realize this was an issue.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:51 PM
Oct 2013

I occasionally refer to it as "Cali" and I'll probably continue to do so. I'll accept whatever my punishment is...

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
225. Note to ESPN announcers and others:
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:51 PM
Oct 2013

There is no Z in "Boise".

I have seen "Cal" used often, though generally more as an adjective than as place name: "Cal-style motorcycle", etc.

REP

(21,691 posts)
227. Missouri. Not MissourAH. And it's The Plaza, not The Plaahzaah for fuck's sake.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:55 PM
Oct 2013

And Brush Creek is still an open sewage run-off, no matter how many damn fountains they put in it.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
228. Not true.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:55 PM
Oct 2013

I was born and raised in Cali. We called it Cali. Sometimes Killa Cali, but Cali nonetheless.
When my friends call me from there they ask me ' when you coming back to Cali?'.

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
232. A grumpy semi call out thread!!!!
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 07:01 PM
Oct 2013


This should be entertaining.

Lets be honest, you say NO-ONE in Cali calls Cali Cali. But above we already had a few cases of people from Cali calling Cali Cali rather than California. Further, no matter how much you correct people, we all know they are going to call California Cali anyways.

Its like me trying to correct my fellow Texans who insist on calling Ruidosa RIO-Dosa rather than the more correct pronunciation of RUI-dosa. In the end its just me being grumpy and anal. Kinda like the stereotype of an Old man yelling at kids "You kids get off my lawn!!!"

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
235. Stupid and immature call out thread. I live in SoCal and I don't care if people say Cali
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 07:04 PM
Oct 2013

When did that become a thing?

Yeah, in a headline one would expect to see CA but this is a fucking message board. Do you know how many times in the last three days I've see "their" used instead of "they're" on here? But guess what? I didn't feel compelled to start an entire thread about it just to criticize someone.



Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
238. Well gosh
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 07:11 PM
Oct 2013

Perhaps, when seeing it in a DU thread title, it's a way to save keystrokes since the length of a thread title is limited.

Attempting to call out Nadin in this fashion has only made you look foolish.

exlrrp

(623 posts)
239. Useta live in Cali, now I live in Orey
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 07:12 PM
Oct 2013

Our attitude here is pronounce the state however you please as long as you come and bring money. or better yet, don't come, just send money
Oregon! ---where we NEVER make you fill your own tank

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
248. I love it here in Vermontie.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:01 PM
Oct 2013

After 33 years I' a true vermonter. I love it here all 5 seasons.
Yes, we have 5 seasons...Mud season! It means Spring is around the corner and we've already had a delicious taste of it.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
298. Since 58, born in Downey, kidhood in Orange and living around the Riverside Cali
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:11 AM
Oct 2013

Y'all have fun out there with that mud

California (CA) Mud Runs & Obstacle Races
A complete list, guide & directory to obstacle races, adventure runs, and mud runs in California
http://www.mudrunguide.com/directory/usa/california-ca/

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
259. Where I'm from
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:20 PM
Oct 2013

we can tell out-of-towners by what they call some cities and towns.

Like Northampton. Some mischievous types might tell out of towners that it's called NOHO, but hardly anyone actually calls it that. Especially not actual residents of the city.

Amherst is said with a silent "h". It's Am-merst...not Am-herst like the one in (I think) NH.

And the town of Monson is pronounced "Mun-sen"...not "Monn-son".

Oh, and one more..."Worcester" and "Leicester" are pronounced "Wuss-ter" and "Les-ter"


PS...I have never called California "Cali".

dchill

(38,505 posts)
263. Well, I'm from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:37 PM
Oct 2013

Ireland, and it really steams me when...

Not. I'm from PA. We all say PA, AKA Pee-yay. Pencil-vane-yuh is just such a mouthful. Also, Guy Fieri (not his real name) is from Cali, and he ALWAYS calls it Cali (not its real name.)

I guess what I'm saying is, "What's the big deal?" But anyway, I hope we're all feeling better soon!

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
290. I'm from dabronx too, and lived in Cali for a few yeez myself
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 11:03 PM
Oct 2013

I'm back in New Yawk again, 15 miles nort of dabronx. 'snice eer. Lossa trees and stuff. 'ngrass 'n little angimuls like skwerlz and shit.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
280. "Frisco" is "the City" (I lived in the Bay Area) and U.C. Berkeley is "Cal"
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:15 PM
Oct 2013

I grew up in So-Cal (I do remember "So-Cal" being said a few times)

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
291. I'm going to ONLY call it Cali from now on whenever referring to it on DU...
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 11:56 PM
Oct 2013

...just because of this silly post.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
294. Do you have a link showing that teenage girls in Iowa call California "Cali?"
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 12:15 AM
Oct 2013

I've lived in Iowa since I was 4, including the years in which I was a teenage girl, and I've never heard anyone call CA "Cali."

byronius

(7,395 posts)
301. Funny and true. I'm from The Big Mater (Sacramento), which no one who lives here calls 'Sacto'.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 06:06 AM
Oct 2013

Actually, I live in Davis, which everyone everywhere calls 'The People's Republic Of Davis', lefties with pride, righties with horror.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
304. Meanwhile, in Ohio, we specialize in linguistic aberrations.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 09:27 AM
Oct 2013

"Cleveland" should actually be "Cleaveland". Bellfontaine is pronounced "bell-fountain". We have two Berlins, each pronounced differently. Many Ohioans say "Ohio" using only one syllable.

And all of these linguistic mutilations are officially recognized and vehemently insisted upon by the locals.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
309. Here's the actual headline, from the link in that OP:
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 10:27 AM
Oct 2013
California Lt. Gov. Newsom to lead pot legalization panel


So, as I said in mine...

People can write anything they wish on DU. Not a problem.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
324. That's not really my point.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:58 PM
Oct 2013

The usage has always bothered me. So, I wrote about it. I was reminded of it in another thread, which I did not link to. I was discussing the usage, not anyone in particular. I hear "Cali" fairly frequently. When I do, I am slightly bothered. So, I wrote about it.

It has been an interesting thread. I'm bemused by the number of people who bothered to read it, and even more bemused by the threads it spawned.

I'm a language guy. Always have been. I've written about language on DU many times, and will continue to write about language here. It's something that interests me.

If someone wants to make it more than that, that's their deal, not mine.

Actually, I heard "Cali" again just last night. The 20-something daughter of close friends mentioned that she was thinking about "moving to Cali." I explained the same thing to her. She said, "Really? I didn't know that. I'll remember it, though."

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
313. Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali Cali
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 01:52 PM
Oct 2013

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
323. I don't ever call it "Cali."
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:53 PM
Oct 2013

Never have. Never will. I am a Californian, even though I now live elsewhere. It's my home state, and my parents and siblings still live there, in the same town where I grew up.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
325. Every time I see this thread, I think it is about a DUer
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 04:21 PM
Oct 2013

and I just had my first post or thread locked on DU3 for jokingly pointing that fact out, along with the fact that the DUer using that name has frequently mentioned their locale, which is not there.

Apparently only one jurist recognized it as a joke, as did the 3 people who read it and replied within 2 minutes or so. The rest of the jury apparently thought I was making a personal attack, which I was not, and sharing personal information available elsewhere on the internet (which is true, if you consider DU and GD to be "elsewhere on the internet&quot

Just sayin' this thread, which is mocking somebody totally else, is trouble...

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
326. It's not about any poster at all.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 04:29 PM
Oct 2013

It's about the use of the word "Cali" instead of California. It's a common usage, and I'm interested in language usage. So, I posted a thread about that usage.

If it had been about the DUer, cali, I wouldn't have capitalized the word. I'm pretty meticulous about that sort of thing. I often participate in cali's threads, so I'm familiar with that DUer. And, yes, she does mention the state she lives in often. It's not a secret at all. I don't do call-outs.

How others read the thread is their deal, not mine. I saw "Cali" used in a thread, which prompted me to bring up that usage in my own thread. I didn't link to the thread where I saw it used, because that thread was irrelevant to my point. I did, however, comment in that thread about the usage, which is moderately annoying to me.

I certainly did not expect the interest this thread has created, though. Most of my threads about language are barely noticed. It's been interesting.

I'm sorry your post got hidden. I wasn't on the jury that hid it, and haven't even seen the thread.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
331. I realize that, MM.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 06:43 PM
Oct 2013

I first saw it at work and at first glance, thought it was about the DUer. Then read the OP and realized it wasn't.

Everytime I see it, it makes me think of the DUer. That is all. Just joking around with it, which the replies to my OP realized.

John1956PA

(2,655 posts)
327. From another blog: Why Do People Always Refer to Pennsylvania as "P.A.?"
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 04:37 PM
Oct 2013

Here is comment from a person who asks a question which I have occasionally thought about:



http://www.city-data.com/forum/pennsylvania/546438-why-do-people-always-refer-pennsylvania.html

Why Do People Always Refer to Pennsylvania as "P.A."?

I grew up in Pennsylvania and I always wondered why we refer to our state as "P.A." all of the time.

I understand that it is a post office abbreviation, but why are we the only ones to do this?

How many other states do that? Imagine people saying "I'm from F.L.", or "I'm heading to C.A, or I'm from T.N.

Kinda funny, and I don't understand why we do this in Pennsylvania.

Other states have names just as long as Pennsylvania (California, Oklahoma, etc.), but they don't seem to have the urge to use the abbreviation. It just doesn't sound as good to say Los Angeles, C.A. as it does to say Pittsburgh, P.A.

Doesn't really bother me though - anybody have any ideas? Is is just because it rolls off the tongue?

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,841 posts)
341. While we're at it, please don't call Chicago "Chi-town."
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 07:38 PM
Oct 2013

It's not horrifically offensive but it will identify you as an out-of-towner faster than ketchup on a hotdog.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
349. Truckers call it the Big Windy, I called it a
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 06:18 AM
Oct 2013

place to avoid! Why they didn't build a bridge over it, with no get on or off ramps is beyond me!

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
351. I grew up in Iowa and I never heard anyone call it Cali
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 08:05 AM
Oct 2013

I lived in Missouri for 20+ years and never heard it called Cali.
I live in Ohio where they claim to be midwest and never hear anyone use the term Cali.


We all call it California or the West Coast. Where in the hell is Minnie?

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