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This woman POISONED two of her pregnant friends who then miscarried. Why? Because she had previously miscarried and was jealous the other two were going to have successful pregnancies.
She only gets 4 months of jail.
'Mine should have been with them as well, but instead mine died while theirs went on.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2464973/Angela-Maier-poisoned-women-cause-miscarriage.html
gollygee
(22,336 posts)I'm guessing it's longer than 4 months.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)And possibly attempted murder of the mothers themselves?
She should spend a long time in a prison or psychiatric ward.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)If the mother has a healthy, viable pregnancy and she intends to give birth, what else is it?
This is not a choice issue, the pregnant women had made their choice.
pitbullgirl1965
(564 posts)She took that away from them, caused them emotional and mental anguish and endangered their health.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)And in this case the mothers wanted the babies and were denied the right to choose.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...and are setting yourself up for your arguement to be used against you by the antis...just saying. Suit yourself.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)One person has all the power in the situation and depending on how they want to act is what triggers certain laws and legal designations.
That is not an opinion, that is just simply how it is done.
Should it be considered stealing in this case (not really because the other party did not get something from it)?
Maybe the law should simply call it assault. Would you (or others, asking in general here) be in favor of a law that considers it just assault or do folks think it is killing something? And if so it goes to the question of why it is in one case and not the other.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I'm pro-choice, but I'm a male so I really don't have a dog in the fight. But I'm just sayin'...if you use the word murder, the anti's are going to throw it back at you. I just think less vulnerable terminology can be used..."forced abortion" for instance...that would carry similar penalties as murder, but not give antis any ammunition. But like I said before, suit yourself.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)because she could be reasonably sure it would not kill them or it wouldn't have been prescribed to her. And if it had killed them due to an allergic reaction or something, unless she knew about that allergy and knew the drug might trigger it, she wouldn't have had a motive of killing.
I don't know if I see it as similar to murder, but I definitely think it's worse than, for instance, when there were some guys who fed marijuana-laced brownies to some Mormon missionaries as a prank. They were charged with poisoning and they didn't intend to actually cause real harm, but this woman obviously did. She absolutely deserves a much longer prison sentence.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)You probably should have read the post I was replying to before responding to me.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Not a friend, a fiend.
pitbullgirl1965
(564 posts)She's blaming her depression? Oh hell no. And she has kids? Please tell me someone will monitor her with them.
tillikum
(105 posts)Jenoch
(7,720 posts)I would hope this woman would get more than 18 months with 14 months suspended.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)She doesn't need jail, she needs to spend some serious time in a psychiatric facility to determine why she has such a high opinion of herself and such a low opinion of others. There are millions of depressed people but they don't kill other people's children because they had a miscarriage. My goodness, most women have a miscarriage or two in the course of trying to have a child and they don't run around poisoning people. We don't even know if those were the only ones she attempted - those were the ones she succeeded at.