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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSee if you can spot the odd one out (healthcare)
Left: healthcare cost per capita
Right: life expectancy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_system#International_comparisons
On edit: what I've read on DU about the ACA means that a larger part of the public will be "carrying" the healthcare system. If it then turns out to be a positive experience, that opens people up towards having everybody carry their part. Something I'd look for in a 2016 nominee, but I'm Crazy Left.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Hopefully, Obamacare just the first step in fixing this -- until we get what everyone deserves: quality cradle-to-grave single-payer health care.
The ACA isn't perfect, but it's a giant first step.
Journeyman
(15,036 posts)and they do it for almost a $1,000 a year cheaper than the main cluster of nations.
The U.S., while even more starkly different, isn't an "odd one out." It's simply criminal.
BelgianMadCow
(5,379 posts)turned out they don't allow hospitals to be run for profit. That may have something to do with it.
Good spotting!
tosh
(4,423 posts)Thanks for posting this.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)I'll need to use this.
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)IronLionZion
(45,454 posts)but I think their life expectancy has more to do with their lifestyle and diet rather than their healthcare system. Many of their emergency rooms close on weekends, which can suck if you get injured then.
What's up with Norway? They should be more efficient.
USA is number 1! in costs of course. Because the private sector is efficient like that.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)characterize their elderly as useless eaters. They revere the elderly. The elderly here are subjected to constant threats to their medicare and meager social security checks. This alone probably has an impact on health.
IronLionZion
(45,454 posts)Japanese children are expected to care for their parents, grandparents, etc. its a strong family unit. American families don't often have that culture. Some do, but many don't feel they owe anything to their elderly in their own flesh and blood families.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)emergency departments. Their emergency clinics are equivalent to U.S. urgent care clinics, which have limited hours, but are for things that aren't immediately life threatening, but may still need immediate care, whereas emergency rooms at hospitals are for, well, emergencies.
IronLionZion
(45,454 posts)I've never been to Japan but read about this in an article about their health system. The author thought it was for cost savings but he may have misunderstood.
I do know that many countries are strict about their emergency rooms being reserved for legit life threatening emergencies and are way less crowded than American ERs.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)refer you to an emergency clinic instead and kick you out of the hospital. I never been there either, but have had friends who lived there or have family there. Of course, availability of emergency clinics varies, just like here.
The clinics are just like our urgent care clinics, many with hours outside of business hours, and also being open on weekends, varies by individual clinic, of course.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)We suck!
1000words
(7,051 posts)In capitalism we trust.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Otherwise what we are really saying as a country, is that life doesn't matter one bit.