We have our own nuke plant problem 400 miles down the coast that is one big earthquake away from being a Fukushima event of our own.

San Onofree is off line and being decommissioned.

The dangers. I have some documentation of some of the latest shenanigans but haven't had time to do a proper post about it.

I'd be very interested to hear what you've put together. One of my first environmental protests was against Diablo Canyon, at the Los Angeles Federal Building back around 76 or 77.

Good for you to protest back when everyone thought nukes were the way to go.

January 6, 2007

That stretch of beach is the gold standard for hellish paddle-outs among California surfers, sharkey too!

I haven't seen many sharks (one to be exact) but the Great Whites do hunt off the sea lion colonies to the north and south an out at the Farallon Islands. The Sea Lions population is on the rise, so one would assume the shark population is too.

I have been at each and every one of those, including Saturday's. Brad -- the guy who puts these together - has done an amazing job for all these years.

I believe there were a few during the run-up to the war that gave Brad some national coverage. I remember reading a fine article on him years ago.

This link has an interesting scientific view of the radioactive pollution from Fukushima. It is however, more than two years old.

Note the calls for science studies that have not been undertaken.

http://e360.yale.edu/feature/radioactivity_in_the_ocean_diluted_but_far_from_harmless/2391/

Surely 'Brother' can link to some recent reports?

So let me preempt them. eat your bananas. (I kid, I kid, but they will)

And I am TIRED of those frivolous "banana" references on every thread.

Could you kindly not do it?

and all that. I am also tired of some folks making fun of me for actually getting it. So i will kindly continue to make some fun of them, and the idiocy. Forgive me, but I was not the one who started, nor continue to diminish how serious this is.

Suffice it to say, any and all serious analysis I do these days, no longer on DU, and that includes GMOs, and Fukushima.

Can we NOT descend to the level that makes this issue into nothing more than yet another bit of silly, entertaining fodder for DU pissing contests.

I fucking live here and sometimes I get the feeling some people would prefer to see us go through hell so that can be proven to be right.

I just DO NOT LIKE seeing this issue being treated with casual snarkiness on either side.

We deserve more respect than that.

And that is the last thing I will say on the issue.

it is asinine, and it is a running gag because of that.

It is easier to use than the other asinine comparison. And that is flying transcontinental.

And no, the rest of us do not wish you go through hell to prove a point. I am literally down wind and water currents. I KNOW that in 20 years or so we will see a spike in certain types of cancer. You will see a spike of different types in ten. As in serious spikes. We will also see far more dead thyroids than we already have, and a rise in some auto immune disorders.

What we are seeing right now, and NOT JUST DUE TO FUKUSHIMA is a mass extinction, the Holocene extinction. Quite possibly this is MAN MADE, and you know the best part? the same people who started with the it is not more serious than eating bananas or flying transcontinental, are mostly the same crew in denial over climate change and quite clueless as to the ecological collapse we are witnessing right now.

And I will continue to treat it with the snark these folks deserve. After the abuse I have that right. Nor will I post any serious analysis on anything on Democratic Underground, due to the bullies ok. Which is also killing us as a society. I am now convinced Bullies in this country is part of the culture. The denial is incredibly deep, and I am sorry that none of our governments are willing to level with us. At times I fear the true nightmare is an uprising from the proles when they realize just how much they have been lied, and that they are literally dying in the name of the mighty dollar, yen, or blue widget, most likely ones and zeroes.

But as far as bananas, sorry, I will continue to laugh at them, not with them.

Do as you will.

But my opinion of you will be somewhat...diminished.

DU is no longer the DU you remember.

Nor am I interested in any serious discussion HERE.

And I am still personally attacked regularly for telling people to take short term measures to protect themselves AND THEIR CHILDREN recommended by light weights such as the US Army, US Air Force, US Navy and US Civil Defense, for nuclear fallout. In fact, some of what I wrote back then was in US Navy manuals. I might add in the list of lightweights, the CDC, NIH, as well as Canadian Armed Forces, Mexican Civil Defense. and all branches of the Military, as well as the Laguna Verde Technicians and scientists.

Do as you will, but at this point we all do what we can to cope. I will continue the snark, since there is no serious discussion here. But if you think I believe this is minor because I like to put their noses down on virtual bananas, oh well. If you think that due to that I take this as a non serious matter, it's your issue, not mine.

These folks continue to pursue their personal and very serious attacks. So I will continue to make fun of them, and if you cannot distinguish between them and the situation it is truly your issue, not mine.

Do you wish for me to add you to the ignore list? I ask in all seriousness. If you wish so, I will put you there, and remove you from FB. I do not wish to do that, but that way you do not have to hear from me. I suggest you do likewise.

I offered, that is all.

Now back to my fiction. At least there I am in control of the bullies. Yup, plenty of material for that.

I am sorry you have been bullied. Certainly I am not one who has done so.

I don't think asking for banana references to be put quietly to sleep is a huge sacrifice on your part and I don't think you should replace seriousness with snark to strike back at people who bullied you -especially when I tell you that the fallout causes a person that actually lives in Japan some degree of discomfort.

in Japan and the US West Coast some degree of discomfort. It is a matter of degree.

Ten years for the first wave of cancers to show up in Japan. Twenty for the US West Coast, and anywhere in between for the area in between. I think Hawaii, and it has to do with air circulation patters, will have the least issues.

And because of the bullies I engage in nothing serous here any more.

Oh and congrats, you actually got me serious for a minute.

well and truly fukushimaed.

I doubt the ecosystem or the food chain will ever truly recover from this.

I was (and still am) stricken by the damage caused by the Deep Water Horizon disaster. That is enough of an ongoing environmental catastrophe. To have Fukushima added to the mess so soon afterward--well, I just feel overwhelmed when I think of either one.

lifetime. But in the long term of life on earth, it will.