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malaise

(269,049 posts) Tue Oct 22, 2013, 06:24 AM Oct 2013

US admits: French surveillance revelations raise 'legitimate questions'

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/21/us-french-surveillance-legitimate-questions
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The White House conceded on Monday that revelations about how its intelligence agencies have intercepted enormous amounts of French phone traffic raised "legitimate questions for our friends and allies".

In a statement released after a phone call between Barack Obama and his counterpart, François Hollande, the White House made one of its strongest admissions yet about the diplomatic impact of the disclosures by the former NSA contractor Edward Snowden.

The French government had earlier summoned the US ambassador in Paris on Monday to demand an urgent explanation over claims that the National Security Agency had engaged in widespread phone and internet surveillance of French citizens.

The French daily Le Monde published details from the NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, suggesting the NSA had been intercepting French phone traffic on what it termed "a massive scale".

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US admits: French surveillance revelations raise 'legitimate questions' (Original Post) malaise Oct 2013 OP

du rec. xchrom Oct 2013 #1

Does This Suggest The Discovery And Recognition That The NSA Is Out Of Control cantbeserious Oct 2013 #2

We don't even know its budget or # of employees Ichingcarpenter Oct 2013 #3

It's a joke do not do this! stonecutter357 Oct 2013 #4

What's the joke part? marble falls Oct 2013 #7

. stonecutter357 Oct 2013 #9

I'm a computer 'truck driver', a typing monkey with concerns regarding personal privacy ..... marble falls Oct 2013 #10

FATCA is another bad law that has to be stopped riverbendviewgal Oct 2013 #5

If one can't needlessly spy on one's allies, who can one spy on? If they weren't doing .... marble falls Oct 2013 #6

SO the tempest in the teapot has escaped that vessel stupidicus Oct 2013 #8

Does this mean that all the questions that were raised by Americans BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #11

I'd say they were all legitimate malaise Oct 2013 #12

K&R Solly Mack Oct 2013 #13

And spying on Americans doesn't?! woo me with science Oct 2013 #14

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #15

xchrom

(108,903 posts)

1. du rec.

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 06:38 AM

Oct 2013

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)

2. Does This Suggest The Discovery And Recognition That The NSA Is Out Of Control

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 07:00 AM

Oct 2013

eom

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)

3. We don't even know its budget or # of employees

Reply to cantbeserious (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 07:11 AM

Oct 2013

That's a secret.

The Snowden files suggest it might be around $51 billion whereas NASA's is $17 billion..... out of control? We don't know and neither does anyone else since its all a secret known only to...????

But hell yeah its a monster that has grown into an entity beyond the courts, congress or even the executive branch.

stonecutter357

(12,697 posts)

4. It's a joke do not do this!

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 08:12 AM

Oct 2013

marble falls

(57,102 posts)

7. What's the joke part?

Reply to stonecutter357 (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 09:20 AM

Oct 2013

stonecutter357

(12,697 posts)

9. .

Reply to marble falls (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 09:30 AM

Oct 2013

tracert is sending a request to NSA and you are getting the echo from servers on the path.

marble falls

(57,102 posts)

10. I'm a computer 'truck driver', a typing monkey with concerns regarding personal privacy .....

Reply to stonecutter357 (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 09:42 AM

Oct 2013

was the video a joke or is it naive to think one could catch NSA at it let alone be able to temporarily shut them off?

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)

5. FATCA is another bad law that has to be stopped

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 08:39 AM

Oct 2013

It is where IRS extorts all the banks in other nations to report on their customers accounts.
The swiss people are having a referendum to stop this American EXTORTION.

American government is invading the privacy of people of other countries. Europe is now having serious talk of turning away from the American dollar.

So this American exceptionalism is turning off other nations. That Guess Who song is starting a comeback.

marble falls

(57,102 posts)

6. If one can't needlessly spy on one's allies, who can one spy on? If they weren't doing ....

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 09:12 AM

Oct 2013

something wrong what do they have to hide? NSA was just confirming everything is AOK on the French interweb. Look over there! A bird! How about them Yankees?